HMS Snake by drtrap - Caldercraft

[egkb]

Hi Stergios..  Nice bit of rope work going on here !

 

Eamonn

[phil5092]

On 11/29/2020 at 3:35 PM, drtrap said:

Hi Phil

Unfortunatelly the full gallery of those pics is lost those-days of the msw data-base black out.

What exactly are looking for? 

Hi looking for hull construction upto planking stage

[drtrap]

Hi guys

First of all let me wish you the best for these holy days and a Happy and Safe coming New Year.

 

I'm attaching some pics showing my progress regarding the rigging of the lower foremast yard 

[drtrap]

The lower foremast yard going to the final position (foremast dock) 

[drtrap]

On 12/18/2020 at 1:05 PM, phil5092 said:

Hi looking for hull construction upto planking stage

Hi.

I have to search for a usb stick of those days with some spare pics.

I'll let you know

[drtrap]

Trying to find my way for the foremast topsail and especially the topsail yard tyes attachments... :((

I think I need a couple of suggestions from a mate of a more advanced level and skill.

The most important:

* looking at the plans I'm seeing at the same exactly place the attachment of both the foremast backstays and foremast yard-tyes... Which one is the right?

Pettersson plan (page 40) cannot help on that.

What;s the advice of more experienced people? Jason, Jim??

Thank you   

Edited December 25, 2020 by drtrap

[Beef Wellington]

 

Season's greetings Stergios!  Can't say definitively whether this is definitively right or wrong, but it is at least consistent with the plans and various references I could find.  It gets pretty crowded in there 🙂  Hope this helps.

Edited December 26, 2020 by Beef Wellington

[drtrap]

Jason, many thanks for replying so promptly, all the best!

Special thanks to another, local, mate of mine for his assistance.

[drtrap]

Wishing a Happy New Year to everyone!

I'm attaching some pics from my consecutive procedures for the rigging of the topsail foremast yard, in case of interest for newer Snake followers

Thank you 

[drtrap]

The same for the lower 5mm single block of the tackle of the topsail foremast yard rigging...

[drtrap]

Despite my tries some pics are uploaded and 180 degrees rotated...

Is that a browser problem, or something different?

[drtrap]

Next step the foremast topgalant yard....

Or leave it for later and start with the mainmast lower yard...??

[egkb]

And Happy New Year to you too Stergios .. 

Very nice Hook Block and great use of the 'needle eye-threader' thing to hold the hook as you worked on it... never thought to do that !

 

Eamonn

[drtrap]

3 hours ago, egkb said:

And Happy New Year to you too Stergios .. 

Very nice Hook Block and great use of the 'needle eye-threader' thing to hold the hook as you worked on it... never thought to do that !

 

Eamonn

Hi Eamonn, wishing you all the best!

Yes, it was my recent inspiration after a glass of red greek wine... ΄;)

Edited January 10, 2021 by drtrap

[drtrap]

 

After a long period of time I'm attaching a couple of pics of the model.. 

Additional touching up is needed to a later stage on some structures/fittings.

 

I think that I've finished the running rigging part "A", and I'm about yo start part"B".

What are people's reccomendations on the order to start part B rigging?

Cheers

 

Stergios

[egkb]

Nice to see you back Stergios .. And with a great update too !

 

Eamonn

[drtrap]

On 6/27/2021 at 5:49 PM, egkb said:

Nice to see you back Stergios .. And with a great update too !

 

Eamonn

Hi Eamonn

Thank you for comment, all the best

[allanyed]

Stergios

I had never thought about whether  the horses and stirrups were tarred or untarred lines, and after a bit of research yours are absolutely correct for the time period for your model.   No wonder that  the seamen had blackened soles.   Well done!  

Allan

Edited July 9, 2021 by allanyed

[Beef Wellington]

Looking good Stergios!  Getting close now to the finish line.

[drtrap]

On 6/30/2021 at 8:14 PM, Beef Wellington said:

Looking good Stergios!  Getting close now to the finish line.

Thank you Jason.

Any advice on the order to start the running rigging part B?

[Beef Wellington]

Hi Stergios, not sure I can impart much advice given this seems to come down a lot to personal preference.  I can't tell exactly where you are, but I think I put the lifts on the yards first, mainly to get these secured squarely.  The sheets and cluelines came next and then the braces and tacks.  Check my log to see if you can tell from photos there, but in general I seem to recall working top downwards, and then mizzen to foremast.  The primary concern was just leaving the deck open enough to have access to secure lines (the upper yards tend to follow the line of the masts for belaying.  For example, the forsheet clue, sheet and tack lines pretty much limits any access to the deck once in place, so this was done last.  I think I took a different approach to you on the bowsprit as I didn't even install the jib-boom until most, if not all the other rigging was in place...,mainly to try and avoid a disastrous break.  I did find using a little swiveling turntableto be very helpful at times (think its call a 'lazy susan')...but all personal preference I suspect.  Good luck!

[drtrap]

On 7/10/2021 at 5:46 PM, Beef Wellington said:

Hi Stergios, not sure I can impart much advice given this seems to come down a lot to personal preference.  I can't tell exactly where you are, but I think I put the lifts on the yards first, mainly to get these secured squarely.  The sheets and cluelines came next and then the braces and tacks.  Check my log to see if you can tell from photos there, but in general I seem to recall working top downwards, and then mizzen to foremast.  The primary concern was just leaving the deck open enough to have access to secure lines (the upper yards tend to follow the line of the masts for belaying.  For example, the forsheet clue, sheet and tack lines pretty much limits any access to the deck once in place, so this was done last.  I think I took a different approach to you on the bowsprit as I didn't even install the jib-boom until most, if not all the other rigging was in place...,mainly to try and avoid a disastrous break.  I did find using a little swiveling turntableto be very helpful at times (think its call a 'lazy susan')...but all personal preference I suspect.  Good luck!

Thank you so much Jason.

I'm preparing myself

Edited July 13, 2021 by drtrap

[drtrap]

I m still searching to find the right “starting point” for the final stage of the model, the running rigging of the yards.

I think that s the most challenging phase of the model. Petterson book can help, but not so much…

[Beef Wellington]

Try not to overthink it Stergios, I know you'll be just fine.  If you don't permanently secure any if the ropes with glue, you can always detach and refix it.  Until you have the ropes on the model, its very hard to get a sense in 3D for how they all lay out, so don't think you've made a mistake if you need to redo something, think that is just a natural part of the process.

[drtrap]

On 7/19/2021 at 10:46 PM, Beef Wellington said:

Try not to overthink it Stergios, I know you'll be just fine.  If you don't permanently secure any if the ropes with glue, you can always detach and refix it.  Until you have the ropes on the model, its very hard to get a sense in 3D for how they all lay out, so don't think you've made a mistake if you need to redo something, think that is just a natural part of the process.

Okay Jason I will start it and I hope that if I make significant mistakes you will be somewhere here to alert me!
I have decided to start top downwards. Foremast rigging first...?

Thank you for the comment 

Edited December 16, 2021 by drtrap

[drtrap]

Still waiting for the 0,25 and 0,50 caldercraft ropes (natural color) for the rigging.

Despite the fact I've additional ropes from third providers and parties their color is a little bit beige, and I'm affraid to proceed.

 

A couple of yards are not glued very firmly to the respective masts and there is a kind of movement...

I don't know how important is this to the balance of the final rigging  

 

[BenD]

The rigging is what should be holding up the yards and orienting them so don't worry to much. 

 

Looking good by the way!

[drtrap]

On 7/29/2021 at 9:48 PM, BenD said:

The rigging is what should be holding up the yards and orienting them so don't worry to much. 

 

Looking good by the way!

Hi Ben, I think I have to fasten the yards the best i can. If leave them, when the time comes to put the ropes, the yards will not have that balanced-squared desired position.

Thank you 

Edited December 16, 2021 by drtrap

[drtrap]

Hi guys

My study on running rigging, yard lifts, sheets and cluelines etc is in progress.

Except Petersson's "Rigging perior ship models" do you have aby other manual or link more "understandable" to suggest as a reference for the rigging of the above named fittings?

Thank you

 

Stergios

[drtrap]

Hi to everyone!

Are you still there?