egkb Posted November 30, 2020 Share #1051 Posted November 30, 2020 Hi Stergios.. Nice bit of rope work going on here ! Eamonn drtrap 1 Quote Current Build : HM Schooner Ballahoo In the Pipeline : HM Cutter Sherbourne, HM Mortar Convulsion, Emma C Berry & C18th English Longboat.. Eventually That Is..🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil5092 Posted December 18, 2020 Share #1052 Posted December 18, 2020 On 11/29/2020 at 3:35 PM, drtrap said: Hi Phil Unfortunatelly the full gallery of those pics is lost those-days of the msw data-base black out. What exactly are looking for? Hi looking for hull construction upto planking stage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted December 25, 2020 Author Share #1053 Posted December 25, 2020 Hi guys First of all let me wish you the best for these holy days and a Happy and Safe coming New Year. I'm attaching some pics showing my progress regarding the rigging of the lower foremast yard GrandpaPhil and egkb 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted December 25, 2020 Author Share #1054 Posted December 25, 2020 The lower foremast yard going to the final position (foremast dock) GrandpaPhil, egkb and Beef Wellington 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted December 25, 2020 Author Share #1055 Posted December 25, 2020 On 12/18/2020 at 1:05 PM, phil5092 said: Hi looking for hull construction upto planking stage Hi. I have to search for a usb stick of those days with some spare pics. I'll let you know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted December 25, 2020 Author Share #1056 Posted December 25, 2020 (edited) Trying to find my way for the foremast topsail and especially the topsail yard tyes attachments... :(( I think I need a couple of suggestions from a mate of a more advanced level and skill. The most important: * looking at the plans I'm seeing at the same exactly place the attachment of both the foremast backstays and foremast yard-tyes... Which one is the right? Pettersson plan (page 40) cannot help on that. What;s the advice of more experienced people? Jason, Jim?? Thank you Edited December 25, 2020 by drtrap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted December 26, 2020 Share #1057 Posted December 26, 2020 (edited) Season's greetings Stergios! Can't say definitively whether this is definitively right or wrong, but it is at least consistent with the plans and various references I could find. It gets pretty crowded in there 🙂 Hope this helps. Edited December 26, 2020 by Beef Wellington JpR62, egkb, GrandpaPhil and 1 other 4 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted December 27, 2020 Author Share #1058 Posted December 27, 2020 Jason, many thanks for replying so promptly, all the best! Special thanks to another, local, mate of mine for his assistance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted January 9, 2021 Author Share #1059 Posted January 9, 2021 Wishing a Happy New Year to everyone! I'm attaching some pics from my consecutive procedures for the rigging of the topsail foremast yard, in case of interest for newer Snake followers Thank you egkb, BenD and GrandpaPhil 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted January 9, 2021 Author Share #1060 Posted January 9, 2021 The same for the lower 5mm single block of the tackle of the topsail foremast yard rigging... egkb, BenD and GrandpaPhil 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted January 9, 2021 Author Share #1061 Posted January 9, 2021 Despite my tries some pics are uploaded and 180 degrees rotated... Is that a browser problem, or something different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted January 9, 2021 Author Share #1062 Posted January 9, 2021 Next step the foremast topgalant yard.... Or leave it for later and start with the mainmast lower yard...?? GrandpaPhil, Vane, egkb and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egkb Posted January 10, 2021 Share #1063 Posted January 10, 2021 And Happy New Year to you too Stergios .. Very nice Hook Block and great use of the 'needle eye-threader' thing to hold the hook as you worked on it... never thought to do that ! Eamonn Quote Current Build : HM Schooner Ballahoo In the Pipeline : HM Cutter Sherbourne, HM Mortar Convulsion, Emma C Berry & C18th English Longboat.. Eventually That Is..🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted January 10, 2021 Author Share #1064 Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, egkb said: And Happy New Year to you too Stergios .. Very nice Hook Block and great use of the 'needle eye-threader' thing to hold the hook as you worked on it... never thought to do that ! Eamonn Hi Eamonn, wishing you all the best! Yes, it was my recent inspiration after a glass of red greek wine... ΄;) Edited January 10, 2021 by drtrap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted June 27, 2021 Author Share #1065 Posted June 27, 2021 After a long period of time I'm attaching a couple of pics of the model.. Additional touching up is needed to a later stage on some structures/fittings. I think that I've finished the running rigging part "A", and I'm about yo start part"B". What are people's reccomendations on the order to start part B rigging? Cheers Stergios robdurant, chris watton, AJohnson and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egkb Posted June 27, 2021 Share #1066 Posted June 27, 2021 Nice to see you back Stergios .. And with a great update too ! Eamonn drtrap 1 Quote Current Build : HM Schooner Ballahoo In the Pipeline : HM Cutter Sherbourne, HM Mortar Convulsion, Emma C Berry & C18th English Longboat.. Eventually That Is..🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted June 30, 2021 Author Share #1067 Posted June 30, 2021 On 6/27/2021 at 5:49 PM, egkb said: Nice to see you back Stergios .. And with a great update too ! Eamonn Hi Eamonn Thank you for comment, all the best egkb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted June 30, 2021 Share #1068 Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) Stergios I had never thought about whether the horses and stirrups were tarred or untarred lines, and after a bit of research yours are absolutely correct for the time period for your model. No wonder that the seamen had blackened soles. Well done! Allan Edited July 9, 2021 by allanyed drtrap 1 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted June 30, 2021 Share #1069 Posted June 30, 2021 Looking good Stergios! Getting close now to the finish line. drtrap 1 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted July 10, 2021 Author Share #1070 Posted July 10, 2021 On 6/30/2021 at 8:14 PM, Beef Wellington said: Looking good Stergios! Getting close now to the finish line. Thank you Jason. Any advice on the order to start the running rigging part B? Beef Wellington 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted July 10, 2021 Share #1071 Posted July 10, 2021 Hi Stergios, not sure I can impart much advice given this seems to come down a lot to personal preference. I can't tell exactly where you are, but I think I put the lifts on the yards first, mainly to get these secured squarely. The sheets and cluelines came next and then the braces and tacks. Check my log to see if you can tell from photos there, but in general I seem to recall working top downwards, and then mizzen to foremast. The primary concern was just leaving the deck open enough to have access to secure lines (the upper yards tend to follow the line of the masts for belaying. For example, the forsheet clue, sheet and tack lines pretty much limits any access to the deck once in place, so this was done last. I think I took a different approach to you on the bowsprit as I didn't even install the jib-boom until most, if not all the other rigging was in place...,mainly to try and avoid a disastrous break. I did find using a little swiveling turntableto be very helpful at times (think its call a 'lazy susan')...but all personal preference I suspect. Good luck! BenD, egkb and drtrap 3 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted July 13, 2021 Author Share #1072 Posted July 13, 2021 (edited) On 7/10/2021 at 5:46 PM, Beef Wellington said: Hi Stergios, not sure I can impart much advice given this seems to come down a lot to personal preference. I can't tell exactly where you are, but I think I put the lifts on the yards first, mainly to get these secured squarely. The sheets and cluelines came next and then the braces and tacks. Check my log to see if you can tell from photos there, but in general I seem to recall working top downwards, and then mizzen to foremast. The primary concern was just leaving the deck open enough to have access to secure lines (the upper yards tend to follow the line of the masts for belaying. For example, the forsheet clue, sheet and tack lines pretty much limits any access to the deck once in place, so this was done last. I think I took a different approach to you on the bowsprit as I didn't even install the jib-boom until most, if not all the other rigging was in place...,mainly to try and avoid a disastrous break. I did find using a little swiveling turntableto be very helpful at times (think its call a 'lazy susan')...but all personal preference I suspect. Good luck! Thank you so much Jason. I'm preparing myself Edited July 13, 2021 by drtrap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted July 19, 2021 Author Share #1073 Posted July 19, 2021 I m still searching to find the right “starting point” for the final stage of the model, the running rigging of the yards. I think that s the most challenging phase of the model. Petterson book can help, but not so much… Beef Wellington 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted July 19, 2021 Share #1074 Posted July 19, 2021 Try not to overthink it Stergios, I know you'll be just fine. If you don't permanently secure any if the ropes with glue, you can always detach and refix it. Until you have the ropes on the model, its very hard to get a sense in 3D for how they all lay out, so don't think you've made a mistake if you need to redo something, think that is just a natural part of the process. egkb and drtrap 2 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted July 20, 2021 Author Share #1075 Posted July 20, 2021 (edited) On 7/19/2021 at 10:46 PM, Beef Wellington said: Try not to overthink it Stergios, I know you'll be just fine. If you don't permanently secure any if the ropes with glue, you can always detach and refix it. Until you have the ropes on the model, its very hard to get a sense in 3D for how they all lay out, so don't think you've made a mistake if you need to redo something, think that is just a natural part of the process. Okay Jason I will start it and I hope that if I make significant mistakes you will be somewhere here to alert me! I have decided to start top downwards. Foremast rigging first...? Thank you for the comment Edited December 16, 2021 by drtrap egkb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted July 28, 2021 Author Share #1076 Posted July 28, 2021 Still waiting for the 0,25 and 0,50 caldercraft ropes (natural color) for the rigging. Despite the fact I've additional ropes from third providers and parties their color is a little bit beige, and I'm affraid to proceed. A couple of yards are not glued very firmly to the respective masts and there is a kind of movement... I don't know how important is this to the balance of the final rigging egkb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenD Posted July 29, 2021 Share #1077 Posted July 29, 2021 The rigging is what should be holding up the yards and orienting them so don't worry to much. Looking good by the way! drtrap 1 Quote Ropes of Scale.com - Rope and cable for the scale modeler. Finished builds: HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft - 1:64 - 9th century longship - Falkonet - 1:72 Current builds: HMS Snake - Caldercraft - 1:64 - Tender Avos by BenD - Master Korabel - 1:72 - 19th Century Four-Oared Yawl by BenD - Falkonet - 1:24 scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted July 30, 2021 Author Share #1078 Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) On 7/29/2021 at 9:48 PM, BenD said: The rigging is what should be holding up the yards and orienting them so don't worry to much. Looking good by the way! Hi Ben, I think I have to fasten the yards the best i can. If leave them, when the time comes to put the ropes, the yards will not have that balanced-squared desired position. Thank you Edited December 16, 2021 by drtrap BenD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted July 31, 2021 Author Share #1079 Posted July 31, 2021 Hi guys My study on running rigging, yard lifts, sheets and cluelines etc is in progress. Except Petersson's "Rigging perior ship models" do you have aby other manual or link more "understandable" to suggest as a reference for the rigging of the above named fittings? Thank you Stergios Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted May 30, 2022 Author Share #1080 Posted May 30, 2022 Hi to everyone! Are you still there? Beef Wellington, egkb, AJohnson and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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