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Dave,

I would have to say that the close up of the "stay fixed to the foot of the mast" is the most realistic photo I have ever seen. I can literally feel myself looking over the rail. The detail is amazing and the photography is superb.

 

I enjoy looking at your log and use it as the bar to reach on my Endeavour which is as likely to happen as the Big Dipper suddenly appears in the southern hemisphere and the Southern Cross appearing in the northern hemisphere.

 

Regards

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Very nice rigging work Dave (and the 'sinners' in the dockyard - see your post :) )  I did not query this when I rigged mine, but this is a neater solution you have achieved.

 

cheers

 

Pat

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Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch)

Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350)

Built:          Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)

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G'day Dave 

I havta agree with ca.shipwrite. your close up photos are so realistic. A pleasure to my eyes!

Happymodelling 

Greg 

"Nothing is impossible, it's only what limitations that you put on yourself make it seems impossible! "

 

Current log : The Royal Yacht Royal Caroline 1749 1:32 by Greg Ashwood:...

 

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Hi All,

Thanks for your comments Michael, Pat and Greg and others for looking in.

 

I thought I share something I am sure most if not all of us model makers do.

Planning ahead, don't we ?

 

I am getting ready for the upper mast Standing Rigging.

Killing some time as I have more ropes from Chuck to arrive soon.

I've marked up on a copy of the AoTS Standing Rigging page(for 1:60), with as many as possible rope and block sizes for easy reference.

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At times I sketch up a specific task ahead of the sizes.

Below is a sketch and tables for the TopMast ropes and block sizes.

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Dave R

Dave R

Measure twice, cut once.

 

Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768

(In the shipyard being constructed)

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Lovely work and a great log, nice one.

Cheers

Nigel

 

Current Build - HMS Victory, Caldercraft - scale  1:64,  started September 2021

Cutty Sark, Constructo - scale 1:115, finished August 2021

HMS Bounty, Constructo - Scale 1:50 - First wooden kit build, finished April 2019

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Dave,

What a great idea, charting the rigging before doing. You wouldn't have charts for the lower and middle masts would you? I know they would be useful to the endeavor group.

 

As an advanced novice or low intermediate builder, I would love to know how you keep your work so neat, clean, and sharp. I fear I am getting the reputation as a building slob.

 

Regards

 

 

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Dave, that is a great idea and I did something similar but also used the Rigging Spreadsheet Danny and John developed.  It was very useful in that it generates the sizes of the ropes in the actual ship rig and also the scale size in metric or imperial.  I then rounded these and reduced the resulting list to about 6 sizes all up to allow me to make up rope of the appropriate sizes.  Your method appears to be paying dividends as the scales and their relative ratios look right to the eye.

 

cheers

 

Pat

If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!
Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch)

Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350)

Built:          Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)

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13 hours ago, ca.shipwright said:

Dave,

What a great idea, charting the rigging before doing. You wouldn't have charts for the lower and middle masts would you? I know they would be useful to the endeavor group.

 

As an advanced novice or low intermediate builder, I would love to know how you keep your work so neat, clean, and sharp. I fear I am getting the reputation as a building slob.

 

Regards

 

 

I have the charts/sketches for the 3 lower masts. I'll get them from my log book and post.

I keep a log book, details on how to make items, sketches, sizes and calculations etc.

 

As for working neat and tidy. ?

I just try to make neat cuts, go slow and steady and if not up to scratch, I redo things.

I plan ahead and quiet often, I make something as a trial run to see how it goes, make changes if not 99%, even work out a number of processes(even making jigs) to mass produce the same item a number of times.

I am sure many others do the same things above.

I mostly use a magnifying glass with Leds for all the small items.

All takes time, hence many hours of work sometimes produces very little in the end.

 

Dave R

Dave R

Measure twice, cut once.

 

Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768

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4 hours ago, BANYAN said:

Dave, that is a great idea and I did something similar but also used the Rigging Spreadsheet Danny and John developed.  It was very useful in that it generates the sizes of the ropes in the actual ship rig and also the scale size in metric or imperial.  I then rounded these and reduced the resulting list to about 6 sizes all up to allow me to make up rope of the appropriate sizes.  Your method appears to be paying dividends as the scales and their relative ratios look right to the eye.

 

cheers

 

Pat

Hi Pat,

I had a look at the same Rigging Spreadsheet of Danny and John you mentioned.

It is great, produces the rope sizes, however I may be wrong, not the blocks ? am I correct ?

 

I did something similar(using David Steel's) which produces rope sizes, and also the block types and sizes.

When I first looked about what seems like years ago, I wanted to find out how many block types & sizes I'd need, I could not find a source at that time.

 

The spreadsheet converts the imperial to metric at an entered scale and is based on the "Ships 20 to 22 guns.... closest tons to Endeavour. 

I've added a AoTS Ref to the left side for what I used.

The spreadsheet also works out the totals for:

- lengths of rope sizes for the standing and running rigs and

- type and sizes for blocks

 

Samples below > first Main-Mast page, (1 of 24 pages of data)

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And produces a Summary of Blocks:

Note: Of interest, the number of blocks the spreadsheet indicates(681) is pretty close to a number mentioned in an article "Rerigging Endeavour Part 2"  by:

Anthony Longhurst, ANMM leading-hand rigger and shipwright on the Replica,  mentions "Add to this the oiling and upkeep of nearly 700 blocks"

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And a Summary of Ropes to order:  based on Chucks packages (each 20'), I hope I don't get into strife showing a suppliers price/name. Just what I used to work out what to order and how much.

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Disclaimer:  Above may not be accurate and is purely what I have used for my Endeavour. Use at your own risk.

 

Enough, back to the real work....
 

Dave R

Dave R

Measure twice, cut once.

 

Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768

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16 hours ago, ca.shipwright said:

Dave,

What a great idea, charting the rigging before doing. You wouldn't have charts for the lower and middle masts would you? I know they would be useful to the endeavor group.

 

As an advanced novice or low intermediate builder, I would love to know how you keep your work so neat, clean, and sharp. I fear I am getting the reputation as a building slob.

 

Regards

 

 

Hi Michael,

Below is a sketch of the 3 lower Masts, shroud rope sizes I used.

Haven't done the Fore or Main TopGallant Masts yet.

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Sketching up these diagrams is just the start of understanding how the rigging all goes and works together.

The shrouds and stays are the easier ones to follow, the more I get into it, wow it gets interesting.

 

Cheers

Dave R

Dave R

Measure twice, cut once.

 

Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768

(In the shipyard being constructed)

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Hi Dave, you are correct; it doesn't do the blocks for you unfortunately.  The tables you create are a great way of doing that.

 

cheers

 

Pat

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Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch)

Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350)

Built:          Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)

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Shipyard Update

Main TopMast Stay:

A Single 7mm block added to the top of the Fore Mast for the Main Top Mast Stay(will be using 0.64mm rope) to run through.

The stay runs down the mast, fixed via a tackle to an eye on the Starboard side(H1-10 AoTS) of the mast step.

 

For the collar I used 0.45mm rope, seized leaving a gap to go around the block, the seized ends to form the end loops. 

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The block ready to be fixed to the fore mast top:

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And the block lashed in place:

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The block/collar may be a bit too high up for the Main and Fore stays to be perfectly in alignment. ?

 

 

Dave R

Dave R

Measure twice, cut once.

 

Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768

(In the shipyard being constructed)

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Mast Tackles:

I replaced the Fore and Main Mast Tackles with longer strops.

After looking at the AoTS Standing Rigging Plan for the umpteenth time, I realised I had the fore and main mast tackles too short, each would be about the same height as the yard.

So replaced each with longer stropped Single 7mm blocks. 

 

New Pictures:

Fore Mast Tackle - AoTS Standing Rigging H1/20

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Main Mast Tackle - AoTS Standing Rigging H1/43 

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Dave R

Dave R

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Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768

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Hi Dave

I followed the AOTS and My mast tackles are a little lower than the yard arms. The yards will sit just below the top woolding. Be aware that the topmost tackles in the AOTS have a block, but most likely had a thimble for a block to hook into, according to several other sources.

cheers

Steve

Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1:51 (Eaglemoss part work)

Previous Builds: USS Constitution (Revell plastic) HMS Victory 1:96 (Corel) HMB Endeavour 1:60 (AL)

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On 7/7/2017 at 7:00 PM, shipaholic said:

Hi Dave

I followed the AOTS and My mast tackles are a little lower than the yard arms. The yards will sit just below the top woolding. Be aware that the topmost tackles in the AOTS have a block, but most likely had a thimble for a block to hook into, according to several other sources.

cheers

Steve

Hi Steve,

I am not 100% familiar with all the Tackle and Pendant types, and find I spend hours shifting page by page trying to understand what may be applicable to the Endeavour(each mast/s), understanding the AoTS is not gospel.

 

The topmast tackles you refer above, are they the Burton Pendant/Tackle ref: 29 & 50 p95 of AoTS ? and possibly 61 ?

 

Dave R

Dave R

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Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768

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Crowsfeet:

The shipyard has made the 3 Euphro's for the Mast Top crowfeet.

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3 sizes, 1 for each mast top. Made from pear wood.

Holes not exactly lined up, but at the scale and when rope through, paint black, probably not be seen.

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Strapping about the Euphro with tackle(blocks and sheet) added.

Will be added to the masts when I get some rope from USA.

 

Dave R

Dave R

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Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768

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Tricky little devils to make and rig Dave; looks like you have mastered it though :)

 

cheers

 

Pat

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Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch)

Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350)

Built:          Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)

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Crowsfeet 2:

We have added the crowsfeet to the three(3) mast tops now, 0.2mm rope looped through front of mast top, with blocks and tackle lashed to stay.

 

Fore Mast:

Fore Mast Crowsfeet

Main Mast:

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Mizzen Mast:

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Dave R

Dave R

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Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768

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Mast Caps and Top Masts:

We have started to erect/raise the three Top Masts in place.

At this stage I checked what blocks ropes/tackle may be added from future running rigging work.

 

Added Fiddle blocks to the Mast Caps(Fore and Main):

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Added eyebolts for the Burton Stays to the front of the Fore and Main Tops.

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Above are eyebolts added on the Main Top, Fore similar. Added one(1) per side just to make sure.

 

Mizzen Mast - eyebolt for the Topsail yard tye fall

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Mizzen Top Mast:

Grommet around the hex section.

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Stay slide down and rest over the Grommet.

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Dave R

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Mast-Tackle:

 

I've made the lower strops for Fore and Main mast-tackles in preparation to add late/soon.

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Each is made from a set of components:

- thimble

- 5mm block

- fabricated brass hook

- rope 0.63mm

 

 

Holding the components whilst a black thread is wrapped around to hold all in place.

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The arrow shows the joint, where the rope ends meet.

 

 

4 strops completed.

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I lashed all the way from the hook to the block, which in hind sight probably should of just done each end.

 

 

As you can see from the dates on the pictures, been making the last few items in the recent posts over last couple of weeks.

 

 

Dave R

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Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768

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Mizzen Top Mast:

 

The lads in the shipyard got busy and finished installing(rough-in) the shrouds to the Mizzen Top Mast last evening.

No overtime pay though.

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As with other lanyards, I have left the ends long to finish off(adjust) after all rigging installed.

 

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Close-up of the shroud lanyards

 

 

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The Top Mast Stay I ran down under the Main Mast Top, to a eye-bolt(blue one), so the stay just missed the back of the mast top.

I moved the block up from a previous eye-bolt(red one) I had added on, but a bit low.

Another eye-bolt(yellow one) was added to lash the stay end.

 

Enough for Mizzen Standing Rigging for now.

Move onto the Main and Fore Top and Top_Gal Mast shrouds and stays.

 

 

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Dave,

You are making me dread rigging my Endeavour. This looks like a never ending tale. Maybe that's why I keep working on the Victory and procrastinate on the Endeavour.

Yours is looking real good.

 

 

Regards

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6 hours ago, ca.shipwright said:

Dave,

You are making me dread rigging my Endeavour. This looks like a never ending tale. Maybe that's why I keep working on the Victory and procrastinate on the Endeavour.

Yours is looking real good.

 

 

Regards

Michael,

I'm on a roll.

 

Dave R

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Thanks for all that have checked in.

The crew in the yard appreciate your comments and likes.

 

Mast Tackle:

 

I had the blocks and Strops for the Main and Fore mast tackles prepped , so added these on today.

 

Fore Mast:

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Starboard View

 

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Finally after years, the channel eye bolts come into use.

 

 

Main Mast:

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Starboard View

 

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Tackle hooks to the channel eye bolts.

bottom end of the tackle. 

 

 

Dave R

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Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768

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Nice rigging Dave; your deadeyes in particular have come up very nicely.  the bolts on the channels look great, very well executed.

 

cheers

 

Pat

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Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch)

Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350)

Built:          Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)

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Absolutely immaculate work Dave, it's a real pleasure reading your log.  Us mere mortals have a lot to learn!!

 

Cheers

Nigel

 

Current Build - HMS Victory, Caldercraft - scale  1:64,  started September 2021

Cutty Sark, Constructo - scale 1:115, finished August 2021

HMS Bounty, Constructo - Scale 1:50 - First wooden kit build, finished April 2019

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15 hours ago, BANYAN said:

Nice rigging Dave; your deadeyes in particular have come up very nicely.  the bolts on the channels look great, very well executed.

 

cheers

 

Pat

Hi Pat,

Re: Deadeys.

Pity they are not the same, as easy to spot the difference.

The deadeyes on the channel, are ones which come with the kit(which upon close examination, I should of drilled out the holes a bit).

The other(on end of shroud) are from other supplier, slightly different.

 

Learning a hell of a lot from this built.

 

 

Dave R

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