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Ships Boats by the Shipyard

 

Yawl Episode 2:

The template was laser cut on 0.6mm 3 ply and keel frames assembled as a jig, ready for planking.

 

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Part of the Template - keel parts and some of the frames.

 

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2 keels and a "rabbit" keel frame either side makes up the keel -> 4 x 0.6mm = 2.4mm wide

 

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The Yawl was 10' long and at 1:60 the keel length just on 50mm long.

 

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Jig

 

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Jig

 

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Jig

 

 

 

Dave R

Dave R

Measure twice, cut once.

 

Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768

(In the shipyard being constructed)

Posted

Ships Boats by the Shipyard


 


Skiff Episode 2:


The template was laser cut on 0.6mm 3 ply and keel frames assembled as a jig, ready for planking.


 


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(part view of the template)


Much the same as the Yawl, I assembled the keel and frames as a jig.


 


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Keel being glued together.


 


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Jig taking shape.


The Skiff is just over 83mm long


 


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Hanging in their.


 


After the planking is on, the jig pops off the base and the fit-out can start.


 


 


Dave R


Dave R

Measure twice, cut once.

 

Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768

(In the shipyard being constructed)

  • 4 weeks later...
Posted

Ships Boats by the Shipyard


Been very hot here in Brisbane Australia.


Not conducive to working on small boats in the heat, even with AC on.


 


Here are the three boats I am working on together. Planking underway.


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Yawl Planked:


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Skiff Planked:


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Pinnace Planked:


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Pinnace turned up, revealing frames alligned with central runner plank.


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Added the gunnel to P and S, should be stiff enough now. 


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Removed the central runner plank.


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Plenty to go.


 


 


 


Dave R


Dave R

Measure twice, cut once.

 

Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768

(In the shipyard being constructed)

Posted

Welcome back to the fray Dave; the boats are looking good!  I need to get cracking as I only have the garboard planks on the yawl.  I have been putting it off as I have been trying to get ahead on the Victoria, which has been taking an inordinate amouint of my time.

 

cheers

 

Pat

If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!
Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch)

Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350)

Built:          Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)

Posted

Hello David,

 

Your ships boats are coming out great. I can't wait to see the end product.

 

I ran into a little problem with Corel. They said that belaying pins were not part of the accessory kit and had to be fabricated out of the 2x5 mm piece of walnut. I am assuming the walnut strip would be ripped to 2mm width and the blank worked from there to keep the grain running the log way for strength

Other than that thought, I have no idea of how to approach this problem and, second, walnut seems awful grainy for this application. Any ideas on how to accomplish this would be a big help.

 

I do have a mini lathe if that is a consideration. I also have some castello, American holly, orange wood and lemon wood. All are very hard and have a tight straight grain,

 

Thanks for any input.

 

Regards

Posted

Hello David,

 

Your ships boats are coming out great. I can't wait to see the end product.

 

I ran into a little problem with Corel. They said that belaying pins were not part of the accessory kit and had to be fabricated out of the 2x5 mm piece of walnut. I am assuming the walnut strip would be ripped to 2mm width and the blank worked from there to keep the grain running the log way for strength

Other than that thought, I have no idea of how to approach this problem and, second, walnut seems awful grainy for this application. Any ideas on how to accomplish this would be a big help.

 

I do have a mini lathe if that is a consideration. I also have some castello, American holly, orange wood and lemon wood. All are very hard and have a tight straight grain,

 

Thanks for any input.

 

Regards

 

Hi Michael,

I tackled ? this back in  Feb 2016.

My soluition was that I purchased the smallest market "belaying pinsI could find, and placed each in my Dremel and turned each down smaller.

See Pic. below

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A bit of discussion back in my log re above. Feb 16 timeframe.

I stained and clear coated at end.

 

 

Dave R

Dave R

Measure twice, cut once.

 

Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768

(In the shipyard being constructed)

Posted (edited)

Just returned back home to Brisbane from the Bi-Annual "Hobart Wooden Boat Festival 2017"

Fantastic 4 days viewing plenty of old, restored, models and new wooden boats.

 

Some Pictures below.

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Model of a Clinker

 

There was something for every wooden boat enthusiast.

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Dave R

Edited by DaveRow

Dave R

Measure twice, cut once.

 

Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768

(In the shipyard being constructed)

Posted

Looks like it was a great event; glad to hear you were able to enjoy it.  Some really well made small models thercheers

 

Pat

If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!
Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch)

Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350)

Built:          Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)

Posted

Looks like it was a great event; glad to hear you were able to enjoy it.  Some really well made small models thercheers

 

Pat

I have pictures of most of the models at the show pavilion. Very nice "Surprise" and "Cutty Sark by Don Ash"

Their were several old "Four Foot Two" sailing model boats from way back in the 1895 - 1930.

 

Not sure if owner's would like them posted without permission though.

 

Dave R

Dave R

Measure twice, cut once.

 

Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768

(In the shipyard being constructed)

Posted

Looks like it was a great event; glad to hear you were able to enjoy it.  Some really well made small models thercheers

 

Pat

 

Below are some of the "Four Foot Two" which were on display at the "Hobart Wooden Boat Festival 2017"

 

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Their were a good 9 to 10 of these models which used to sail back at the turn of the 1900's

Bit of a story about them on the first picture(Board)

 

Dave R

Dave R

Measure twice, cut once.

 

Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768

(In the shipyard being constructed)

Posted

Looks like it was a great event; glad to hear you were able to enjoy it.  Some really well made small models thercheers

 

Pat

Another attraction at the "Hobart Wooden Boat Festival 2017" were a number of speakers at the Wooden Boat Symposium.

Of interest to those building the HMB Endeavour would be the presentation called "On the trail of Cook's Endeavour"

 

Dr Nigel Erskine, Head of Research for the Australian National Maritime Museum(ANMM) presented a very exciting talk of the efforts to confirm the resting place of the Endeavour.

 

The talk commenced with some background of the Endeavour leaving England.

Cook's 1768 journey for the transit of Venus, and onward to the Australian coast.

Delivering provisions to the Falkland Islands in 1772.

The paying off of in 1775 to be renamed the Lord Sandwich, and unceremoniously, and purposefully, sunk in 1778 in the shallow waters of a Rhode Island harbor to block advancing French ships.

 

Of recent times he described how the ANMM and the local Rhode Island Marine Archeology Project (RIMAP) at Newport have partnered to locate the remains of the Endeavour(Lord Sandwich). He told us of the efforts to date and the challenges they have met and ahead. He is hopeful they will be able to confirm which of the 13 hulks on the seabed is the Endeavour.

Nigel showed us maps showing the locations of the sunken ships and underwater video over the area.

 

 

Dave R

Dave R

Measure twice, cut once.

 

Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768

(In the shipyard being constructed)

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

Ships Boats Update

Pinnace

It has been slow going working on this little boat.

A couple of pictures of where the shipyard is at today.

Much more to go, however will finish all 4 small boats rudders, paintwork, masts etc. together.

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At this stage I am happy to move onto the Skiff, work on the fit-out, bring it up to the same stage as the Pinnace and Longboat.

 

 

Dave R

Dave R

Measure twice, cut once.

 

Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768

(In the shipyard being constructed)

Posted

Ships Boats Update

Skiff

Started on the fit-out of the Skiff.

Added the gunnels at this stage and removed the removable sections of the frames. 

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Inner fit-out nearly completed.

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Yawl

Started on the fit-out of the Yawl.

Middle of the frames in front.

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4 Ships Boats

Has taken a while to get his far with the 4 ship boats.

Each is about the same stage, next to finish hull paint job, rudders and some oars maybe masts.

 

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Dave R

Dave R

Measure twice, cut once.

 

Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768

(In the shipyard being constructed)

Posted

Nice job Dave; they look very good, and makes me wonder why I didn't consider yellow/ochre for the thwarts etc - looks good against the white.

 

cheers

 

Pat

If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!
Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch)

Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350)

Built:          Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)

Posted

Ships Boats Update

Gudgeon

For the 4 ships boats, I designed small Gudgeons in 3D and printed them on my 3D printer.

Yes they are plastic. Printed in ABS, 2 pieces per set. Once I was happy with the print settings, it was a matter of fine tuning the 3D model smaller and smaller to see how far the printer can "make" them. Printing several at a time worked better than once off.

Below is a sample of the 3D printing, of the Gudgeons on a build bed.

Gudgeon

Once removed, tidied up a bit, trial assembled. These 2 below are earlier versions, which I was happy with, but persisted to get them smaller and smaller.

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As you can see by the picture below, I can cut the Gudgeon "legs" to length or off to fit the rudder to the stern. 

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In the follow post, you can see how they turned out.

 

Dave R

 

Dave R

Measure twice, cut once.

 

Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768

(In the shipyard being constructed)

Posted

Ships Boats Update

Painting

Well it has taken nearly a full week on/off working on the final painting of the 4 hulls to a stage I am happy with.

The boats are for 1:60 model. the largest(hull) Longboat being ~ 94mm long

 

I've painted all the hulls white, "gloss" white as I wasn't happy with flat or matt.

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It took me a while to decide the color scheme for each.

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Rudders on the back of each boat. I followed the style from the AoTS.

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Longboat

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Pinnace

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Skiff

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Yawl

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I must admit, building these was really, really time consuming.

The Longboat and Pinnace I am really happy with.

The Skiff and Yawl, the proportions are not quiet correct, they just don't look right. But I was so far down the "build track", they will just have to do.

 

Next to make some oars, housings on board, and hoist onto the Endeavour.

 

 

Dave R

Dave R

Measure twice, cut once.

 

Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768

(In the shipyard being constructed)

Posted

Dave

 

Unless I am mistaken only one of the four boats had a white lead coating as an experiment against worm. It was the longboat (I think) and the others were assumed brown/tar as for the main ship's hull. The experiment was such a success it led directly to the expensive implementation of white lead on ship's hulls when Cook reported back to the Admiralty on the immunity the white lead had conferred on the longboat, it was untouched when examined at the end of trip

Compliments on the brilliant work.

Posted

G'day Dave 

Mindi was partially correct. The long boat was the only one white and the rest were brown. The reason why the long boat was brown because it was damaged by worms and the lead paint was used to stop the progress and also to stop the worms spreading to the other boats.

I read it somewhere, and I think it was from Cook's journal. In the same article he wasn't pleased to have the long boat aboard the Endeavour.

I also have to agree with Mindi, how good your model is. Well done!

Havagooday 

Greg 

"Nothing is impossible, it's only what limitations that you put on yourself make it seems impossible! "

 

Current log : The Royal Yacht Royal Caroline 1749 1:32 by Greg Ashwood:...

 

Posted
17 hours ago, Greg the peg leg sailor said:

G'day Dave 

Mindi was partially correct. The long boat was the only one white and the rest were brown. The reason why the long boat was brown because it was damaged by worms and the lead paint was used to stop the progress and also to stop the worms spreading to the other boats.

I read it somewhere, and I think it was from Cook's journal. In the same article he wasn't pleased to have the long boat aboard the Endeavour.

I also have to agree with Mindi, how good your model is. Well done!

Havagooday 

Greg 

I found this section in Captain Cook's Journal 1768-71 P75 when in

TAHITI   -    May 1769

Wednesday, 24th. Fine clear weather all this day. Having found the Long boat Leakey for these few days past, we hauld her ashore to-day to stop the leakes, when, to our great surprise, we found her bottom so much Eaten by the Worms that it was necessary to give her a new one, and all the Carpenters were immediately set to work upon her.

Thursday, 25th. Most part of these 24 hours Cloudy, with frequent Showers of Rain.

Friday, 26th. Some flying showers again. This morning we hauled the pinnace a Shore to examine her bottom, and had the Satisfaction to find that not one worm had touched it, notwithstanding she hath been in the water nearly as long as the Long Boat. This must be owing to the White Lead with which her bottom is painted, the Long boats being paid with Varnish of Pine, for no other reason can be assign'd why the one should be preserved and the other destroy'd, when they are both built on the Same sort of Wood and have been in equal use. From this Circumstance alone the Bottom of all Boats sent into Countrys where these worms are ought to be painted with White Lead, and the Ships supply'd with a good stock in order to give them a New Coat whenever it's necessary. By this means they would be preserved free from these destructive Vermin. The Long boat's Bottom being so much destroy'd appear'd a little extraordinary, as the Dolphin's Launch was in the Water at this very place full as long, and no such thing happened to her, as the Officers that were in the Dolphin say.

 

So:

the Pinnace had White Lead paint on her bottom at this time

the long boats(note the plural inc. the Dolphin's Launch) > paid with varnish of pine (the worms got into the Endeavour's Longboat bottom, and was replaced)

the other 2 boats(Yawl & Skiff ?) I could not find mention of the bottom's finish ? 

 

 

Also I found it very interesting...

Nov 1770 whilst at Batavia they found considerable worm damage to the keel

Friday, 9th. In the P.M. hove the Larboard side of the Ship, Kiel out, and found her bottom to be in a far worse condition than we expected; the false kiel was gone to within 20 feet of the Stern post, the main Kiel wounded in many places very considerably, a great quantity of Sheathing off, and several planks much damaged, especially under the Main Channell near the Kiel, where 2 planks and a 1/2, near 6 feet in length, were within 1/8th of an inch of being cut through; and here the worms had made their way quite into the timbers

Wonder they go that far.....

 

 

Dave R

Dave R

Measure twice, cut once.

 

Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768

(In the shipyard being constructed)

Posted

very nice job on the boats Dave; they look terrific.  The 3D printed parts look excellent also, glad to see you persisted.  I am assuming the ironwork for the masts etc are also 3D printed?

 

cheers

 

Pat

If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!
Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch)

Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350)

Built:          Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)

Posted
4 hours ago, BANYAN said:

very nice job on the boats Dave; they look terrific.  The 3D printed parts look excellent also, glad to see you persisted.  I am assuming the ironwork for the masts etc are also 3D printed?

 

cheers

 

Pat

Correct, the mast block in ABS 3D printed.

Dave R

Measure twice, cut once.

 

Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768

(In the shipyard being constructed)

Posted

Pat, Greg, Michael & Mindi.

Thanks for your kind comments and thoughts.

 

I sometimes think, so many others have made the components for the Endeavour, and there is always room to be creative for us all.

 

 

Dave R

Dave R

Measure twice, cut once.

 

Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768

(In the shipyard being constructed)

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