reklein Posted August 20, 2014 Share #1 Posted August 20, 2014 Since I couldn't find a kit of a military Victoryship I decided to build one based on the Bluejacket kit. So far the hull is done and I'm now beavering away on the super stucture. The armament is by HR products, and the PE is by Toms Model works and Bluejacket. Have a look. Bill in Idaho ccoyle, fnkershner, Piet and 13 others 16 Quote Bill, in Idaho Completed Mamoli Halifax and Billings Viking ship in 2015 Next Model Shipways Syren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimoDude Posted August 20, 2014 Share #2 Posted August 20, 2014 I am envious...Beautiful work, congratulations. Quote HMS Victory 1804 Caldercraft scale 1.72 (not 1.75) Build start, May 1, 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reklein Posted August 21, 2014 Author Share #3 Posted August 21, 2014 Thanks folks for your likes and comments. Bill Quote Bill, in Idaho Completed Mamoli Halifax and Billings Viking ship in 2015 Next Model Shipways Syren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schooner Posted August 21, 2014 Share #4 Posted August 21, 2014 (edited) Bill, great looking build! Couple of questions: - Where did you get your plans? - What types of things are you using HR products for (I know there isn't much available from anyone in 1/16 scale)? How would you rate their quality? - I've been looking at this BJ kit for sometime as a possible future build - did you find thinning the bulwarks difficult? Looking forward to following this one! Tim Edited August 21, 2014 by schooner Quote Tim Current build: Continental Navy Frigate ALFRED (build log) Past builds: Steam Tug SEGUIN (build log in the kits 1850-1900 section) Liberty Ship SS Stephen Hopkins (Gallery & Build Log) USS Basilone (DD-824) (Gallery & Build Log) USS Olympia (Gallery) USS Kirk (FF-1087) (Gallery & Build Log) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reklein Posted August 21, 2014 Author Share #5 Posted August 21, 2014 First off the scale of the model is 1/192. The plans for the military version are from a down load from Model Shipwright. Just google Victory CARGO ship. I emphasize cargo because a lot of HMS Victory will show up. The HR products I ordered are the quad 40s the dual 40sthe 20s and the 3inch gun, and the life rafts.Generarlly the castings aren't too bad just require a lot of careful clean up. I'm attempting to cast my own LCVPs and LCM 3s but having trouble with bubbles in the castings. You can see my two masters for these in the pics. I removed the midships bulwarks altogether and rabbeted in basswood sheet stock instead. I thinned the bow bulwarks without much trouble.A more difficult task was getting the hull shaped properly specially in the stern area around the screw and rudder. You'll have to make templates for the whole hull and also a profile template to get the stern shaped properly. The portholes are scratch from brass wire wound on a finish nail and cut into tiny circles then glued to the bulkheads. After painting the gray they will be picked out with gloss black. The gun tubs are formed from styrene pulled over the table edge much like one would curl a ribbon. Then startng with one end glued to the deck and formed round while touching the fresh glue with kicker to hold everything in place while forming. The Blue Jacket hull is a good starting place and quite a bit of the Blue jacket fittings will be needed. The Blue jacket kit also comes with a lot styrene to cover the superstructure for a good steel ship look. I have an old Stering Models C-2 Cargo ship sitting on a shelf and like an Idiot I'm thinking what a cool rebuild to a 1/96 Victory ship it would make. Bill in Idaho Quote Bill, in Idaho Completed Mamoli Halifax and Billings Viking ship in 2015 Next Model Shipways Syren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnkershner Posted August 21, 2014 Share #6 Posted August 21, 2014 Bill - Its great to see your build. I had a wonderful time last year on the Jerimiah O'Brian. I will be very interested in seeing how yours comes out. Quote Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18 On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, Its a sailor's Life for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Seiler Posted August 21, 2014 Share #7 Posted August 21, 2014 Bill, What is th edifference between the Bluejacket kit and what you are calling "the military version"? I thought they were all military versions? Were some converted after the war? Quote Chuck Seiler San Diego Ship Modelers Guild Nautical Research Guild Current Build:: Colonial Schooner SULTANA (scratch from Model Expo Plans), Hanseatic Cog Wutender Hund, Pinas Cross Section Completed: Missouri Riverboat FAR WEST (1876) Scratch, 1776 Gunboat PHILADELPHIA (Scratch), John Smith Shallop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reklein Posted August 21, 2014 Author Share #8 Posted August 21, 2014 The Bluejacket kit is a post war civilian cargo ship converted from the military. I don't know who did the conversions,but all the weapons and extra cabin deck gun decks and their mounts were removed. They were then sold to many countries to rebuild their merchant fleets after the war. A little more than 500 of these ships were built. The Lewiston Victory is said to have been built in 60 days. The reason I'm buidling this particular ship besides being an interesting subject ,is that our city raised enough in bonds to build one of these ships. It will be displayed in the county museum when finished. I am donating the labor to build it.The military version had 1 3"50,12 40 mm bofors and another dozen or so 20 mm guns BILL Chuck Seiler, coxswain, fnkershner and 1 other 4 Quote Bill, in Idaho Completed Mamoli Halifax and Billings Viking ship in 2015 Next Model Shipways Syren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reklein Posted September 25, 2014 Author Share #9 Posted September 25, 2014 Hers a few pics of my latest work. Building and installing the tiny PE ladders from Toms Modelworks. Someone commented about getting to the fiddly bits and this model has em in spades. To Top it off I had to redo all the lettering because I stripped them all off when I absentmindedly put masking tape over them. The next big project will be making the life Raft racks. There are 25 rafts to fit.All of the superstructe is wood block with styrene laminated using R/C 56 or equivalent. Its a glue the RCers use to attach plastic canopies. Seems to work well. We'll see 10 yrs down the line. All the cargo masts are scratched from Styrene. I'm doing this project for a local museum so even though I'm volunteering my time there is still incentive to get finished. I've been putting in 4-6 hrs /day with a day off here and there for 3 months now. I haven.t totaled up the time. So much for now. Bill in Idaho schooner, tarbrush, Captain Slog and 6 others 9 Quote Bill, in Idaho Completed Mamoli Halifax and Billings Viking ship in 2015 Next Model Shipways Syren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnobiumPunctatum Posted September 25, 2014 Share #10 Posted September 25, 2014 Nice model. Which scale has the model? Quote Regards Christian Current build: HM Cutter Alert, 1777; HM Sloop Fly, 1776 - 1/36 On the drawing board: English Ship Sloops Fly, 1776, Comet, 1783 and Aetna, 1776; Naval Cutter Alert, 1777 Paused: HMS Triton, 1771 - 1/48 "Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it." Salvador Dali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy Posted September 25, 2014 Share #11 Posted September 25, 2014 (edited) Looking good Bill. Like the use of scratch built items, they help the grey cells to work too. foxy Edited September 25, 2014 by foxy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reklein Posted September 25, 2014 Author Share #12 Posted September 25, 2014 Christian, the scale is 1/192 or 1/16" equals one foot. I like scratch building, then i build a kit to relax. I see by the photo though that I need to fill under the forward house. Bill Quote Bill, in Idaho Completed Mamoli Halifax and Billings Viking ship in 2015 Next Model Shipways Syren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy Posted September 26, 2014 Share #13 Posted September 26, 2014 (edited) How do you fix PE Bill. CA or PVA. What ever looks good . Your right John on a similar kit, but this is scratch built. Some say the white glue is better but not as strong as CA, but gives more to accidents . Great work. Frank Edited September 26, 2014 by foxy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reklein Posted September 26, 2014 Author Share #14 Posted September 26, 2014 I'm using CA and kicker. I apply the CA, join the parts, and apply a very small amount of the kicker with the bottom end of the kicker sprayer pickup tube. Probably a small glass rod would be a better applicator but if I need a squirt of kicker the sprayer is handy. This method gives me a little time to adjust the position of the parts to be joined. I always keep thin,thicker and gel CA on hand. It would be nice to have three hands for this operation. Bill Quote Bill, in Idaho Completed Mamoli Halifax and Billings Viking ship in 2015 Next Model Shipways Syren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jud Posted September 26, 2014 Share #15 Posted September 26, 2014 (edited) Good looking work on your model, gives me some Ideas on how one might go about using similar materials for a build of the Harnett County as she was in RVN. jud Edited September 26, 2014 by jud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reklein Posted September 26, 2014 Author Share #16 Posted September 26, 2014 I'm wondering how close the Sterling C-2 cargo ship is to a Victory ship. I have a Sterling hull I built and am thinking of turning it into a Haskell class ship. I'd probably be the only person around who'd know any difference. One could call a rose an onion if one was introducing it to a new crowd. There's a lot of history on these on the web. Too much for me to sort out ad I sorta have a mix of prototypes going here in this one model. Don't tell anyone though. Bill hexnut 1 Quote Bill, in Idaho Completed Mamoli Halifax and Billings Viking ship in 2015 Next Model Shipways Syren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reklein Posted October 1, 2014 Author Share #17 Posted October 1, 2014 I'm making slow progress. Just about finished with railings. Will then work on Carley floats(rafts) then flag masts, then rigging. GrandpaPhil, Captain Slog, schooner and 6 others 9 Quote Bill, in Idaho Completed Mamoli Halifax and Billings Viking ship in 2015 Next Model Shipways Syren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnkershner Posted October 2, 2014 Share #18 Posted October 2, 2014 Nice work Bill. She looks great. Jgrace 1 Quote Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18 On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, Its a sailor's Life for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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