galf Posted September 10, 2014 #1 Posted September 10, 2014 This is the 4th wood ship model I am building. First was the Model Shipways Essex, then scratch built Syren, and Model Shipways Flying Fish which is 3/4 done. I also built the RMS Titanic 1/400 scale, Academy Anniversary Edition, complete with LED and fiber optic lighting. (looks COOL!) trippwj, CaptainSteve, Aussie048 and 2 others 5 Quote
GuntherMT Posted September 10, 2014 #2 Posted September 10, 2014 Looks like a very nice start! Quote Brian Mystery project coming soon! Current build - Medway Longboat Complete - Armed Virginia Sloop Complete - Carmen (First Build)
galf Posted September 10, 2014 Author #3 Posted September 10, 2014 I am farther along, spent last couple of hours trying to figure out this website...Notice tape on Exacto knife, GOOD TIP, helps prevent knife from rolling off table and sticking in your FOOT! LOL WackoWolf, Aussie048, Ol' Pine Tar and 3 others 6 Quote
galf Posted September 12, 2014 Author #4 Posted September 12, 2014 Instead of buying the rivets I tested the best way for me to duplicate them. First I painted 1 coat of green, then I dabbed a small drop of wood glue on and let dry. Then painted 2nd coat of green on... trippwj, Aussie048, GuntherMT and 2 others 5 Quote
galf Posted October 2, 2014 Author #5 Posted October 2, 2014 Clean up canons and bases cristikc, Aussie048 and Ol' Pine Tar 3 Quote
galf Posted October 2, 2014 Author #6 Posted October 2, 2014 painted and assembled canons GuntherMT, Ol' Pine Tar, Aussie048 and 1 other 4 Quote
lambsbk Posted October 3, 2014 #7 Posted October 3, 2014 I agree with Brian, very nice start. I am looking forward to following your log. Quote Dave U.S.S. Constitution 1:96 Revell build with fiber optic lighting
galf Posted October 4, 2014 Author #8 Posted October 4, 2014 Thanks, now I glued canons from the inside of hull and am going to finish planking hull and deck. Aussie048, CaptainSteve, HIPEXEC and 1 other 4 Quote
galf Posted October 20, 2014 Author #9 Posted October 20, 2014 Finished planking hull WackoWolf, CaptainSteve, GuntherMT and 2 others 5 Quote
galf Posted October 20, 2014 Author #10 Posted October 20, 2014 Painted hull CaptainSteve, Ol' Pine Tar and Aussie048 3 Quote
galf Posted October 20, 2014 Author #11 Posted October 20, 2014 Have mark copper lines and cut copper plates Ol' Pine Tar and Aussie048 2 Quote
galf Posted November 1, 2014 Author #12 Posted November 1, 2014 Putting on copper plates. Does anyone know if there is a nail pattern on the plates? Aussie048 1 Quote
robnbill Posted November 1, 2014 #13 Posted November 1, 2014 (edited) This link from the Navy states there is 120 - 150 nails per sheet. http://www.history.navy.mil/USSCTour/manuals/ConstitutionCopperSheathing.pdf The photo below, taken from the 92-96 restoration, shows a single plate in the lower right, still attached and you can se the nail patterns on it. The link to the site is: http://www.hazegray.org/features/constitution/ Edited November 1, 2014 by robnbill CaptainSteve and Aussie048 2 Quote Bill Chantilly, VA Its not the size of the ship, but the bore of the cannon! Current Build: Scratch Build Brig Eagle Completed Build Log: USS Constitution - Mamoli Completed Build Gallery: USS Constitution - Mamoli
galf Posted November 2, 2014 Author #14 Posted November 2, 2014 Thanks for the reply Bill, Although it would be hard to do this to scale, it looks like the pattern is similar to the upper plate...or don't put a pattern on it at all? Quote
robnbill Posted November 2, 2014 #15 Posted November 2, 2014 (edited) Looking at the photo of the Connie, it appears the nail heads are less than an inch. Probably ¾" to ½" if the boots are as close to them as it appears. If that is the case, ¾" would equate to about .25mm, assuming you are working on the MS version of the Connie at 1:76. So it would be difficult to scale realistically, however, there are many modelers out who have added the nails, they are just not in scale. It is a look and provides the appearance of having the nailed plates to the bottom. So this really is up to you. Add nails knowing they will not be in scale, or no nails. Look over the logs to see how others have accomplished it. My Connie is 1:93, so she would have been too small. Also Mamoli used a completely different technique using wood to copper the bottom. So I can't be of much help there. There are many ships built here that have copper plating. Edited November 2, 2014 by robnbill Ol' Pine Tar 1 Quote Bill Chantilly, VA Its not the size of the ship, but the bore of the cannon! Current Build: Scratch Build Brig Eagle Completed Build Log: USS Constitution - Mamoli Completed Build Gallery: USS Constitution - Mamoli
CaptainSteve Posted November 2, 2014 #16 Posted November 2, 2014 (edited) Galf, this is one of the many questions which I will be facing some day. For this reason, I am eternally grateful for those such as ye'self who go before, and MSW !!! Can I suggest that you might try making up some kind of jig to use as a type of stamp to simulate your rivet heads. I'm thinking of a small, rectangular piece of wood with (perhaps) the tips of pins or nails coming thru. Sorry that I have no pics ... coz it's just an idea !!! (Imagine a baseball bat with nails in one end ... but waaaaay more subtle) Edited November 2, 2014 by CaptainSteve Quote CaptainSteve Current Build: HM Granado Bomb Vessel (Caldercraft) My BathTub: Queen Anne Barge (Syren Ship Models) Log: Queen Anne Barge (an build log) Bounty Launch (Model Shipways) Log: Bounty Launch by CaptainSteve Apostol Felipe (OcCre) HMS Victory (Constructo) Check It Out: The Kit-Basher's Guide to The Galaxy Website: The Life & Boats of CaptainSteve
galf Posted November 25, 2014 Author #17 Posted November 25, 2014 done with copper plates WackoWolf, GuntherMT, Aussie048 and 1 other 4 Quote
galf Posted November 25, 2014 Author #18 Posted November 25, 2014 Assembled windows for quarter gallery. Found it easier to assemble windows out of ship, then will sand to fit into section. Quote
galf Posted November 25, 2014 Author #19 Posted November 25, 2014 Assembled windows for quarter gallery. Found it easier to assemble windows out of ship, then will sand to fit into section. Quote
galf Posted November 25, 2014 Author #20 Posted November 25, 2014 Used a fine point Sharpie to paint window trim CaptainSteve and Aussie048 2 Quote
galf Posted November 25, 2014 Author #21 Posted November 25, 2014 Bought the Excel 1/4" Pounce tool from Amazon to add nails on copper plates. Looks like it should work good. Still have to test it out. lambsbk and WackoWolf 2 Quote
galf Posted December 9, 2014 Author #22 Posted December 9, 2014 pounce tool worked great. CaptainSteve and robnbill 2 Quote
robnbill Posted December 9, 2014 #23 Posted December 9, 2014 Your looking great! Quote Bill Chantilly, VA Its not the size of the ship, but the bore of the cannon! Current Build: Scratch Build Brig Eagle Completed Build Log: USS Constitution - Mamoli Completed Build Gallery: USS Constitution - Mamoli
galf Posted December 10, 2014 Author #24 Posted December 10, 2014 Using my diamond burr set to drill holes for Berth Deck Portlights. They make a nice clean hole instead of using regular drill bits which may splinter wood. Also went crazy at Office Max/Depot they had paint markers and pens on sale 50 cents each, great for doing fine details instead of painting with a brush! CaptainSteve and GuntherMT 2 Quote
robnbill Posted December 10, 2014 #26 Posted December 10, 2014 Galf, You are looking great. One note of caution with the sharpies. Another experienced builder on the MSB forum found that the sharpie colors both faded and bled. He had used some in his rigging and the black really faded badly. It also bled into the spars. So the colors of the sharpies are not always stable. Quote Bill Chantilly, VA Its not the size of the ship, but the bore of the cannon! Current Build: Scratch Build Brig Eagle Completed Build Log: USS Constitution - Mamoli Completed Build Gallery: USS Constitution - Mamoli
GuntherMT Posted December 10, 2014 #27 Posted December 10, 2014 Galf, You are looking great. One note of caution with the sharpies. Another experienced builder on the MSB forum found that the sharpie colors both faded and bled. He had used some in his rigging and the black really faded badly. It also bled into the spars. So the colors of the sharpies are not always stable. I used Sharpie on my wale on a boxwood strip. Even after weeks it would smear off when I wiped it, and wipe on poly wouldn't seem to seal it. I ended up sanding it off a fair amount and then priming and painting over it with acrylic paint and then wipe on poly before it would actually be 'dry' to the touch and not come off on anything that rubbed against it. Lesson learned. Quote Brian Mystery project coming soon! Current build - Medway Longboat Complete - Armed Virginia Sloop Complete - Carmen (First Build)
usedtosail Posted December 11, 2014 #28 Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) Galf, just found your build log. Your Connie looks great. I tried CA glue for the rivets but not wood glue. I ended up using copper wire, but I really like the look of yours. Your copper job looks great too. I am getting close to that task. Edited December 11, 2014 by usedtosail Quote - Tom - Current Build: Ochre Beagle Completed: Vanguard Speedy, Vanguard Duchess of Kingston, Stove Project, Ships Wheel Project, NRG Capstan Project, Billings Half Moon, Dumas Chris Craft 1938 27' Triple Cockpit Barrel Back, Panart Santa Lucia , Model Shipways Constitution , MS Bounty Launch , Mamoli HMS Beagle Member: Nautical Research Guild
galf Posted December 11, 2014 Author #29 Posted December 11, 2014 Thanks for the tip. I was using the red and blue ultra fine point MARKERS just for stars and stripes on the eagle. I am using the Sharpie PAINT Pens (which is oil base paint) on any of the wood that needs a fine touch like the white letters of the constitution name plate on the stern. Otherwise I am using all Acrylic paints. I was able to get black, white, red, silver and gold in extra fine point and medium point. I don't know if you have ever seen them they work really well, I was surprised to get them so cheap because they normally $4 each. robnbill and CaptainSteve 2 Quote
galf Posted December 11, 2014 Author #30 Posted December 11, 2014 OK, portlights in and painted. Would like to main rail and top gallant rail done before holidays, my wife wants her counter top back!! CaptainSteve, Aussie048 and WackoWolf 3 Quote
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