Don Quixote Posted September 27, 2014 #1 Posted September 27, 2014 I'm looking for plans to make a serving machine. Otherwise, if anyone knows who make them well, and at a reasonable price. Quote Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 Scale. 2nd boat in the learning series. In Dry Dock: Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack. 1:24 scale. Model Shipways, 3rd in the learning series. Not sure what'll be next, probably the Santa Maria by Artesania Latina 1:65 scale. Unless someone has a better suggestion for a beginner. Pride of Baltimore. Model Shipways. Clipper used in the war of 1812. Black Falcon. Mantua Model. 18 century corsair brig. CSS. Alabama. E. Manolie? Can't read the font. Build in Liverpool in 1862 for use in the American Civil War by the Confederates. Steam and sail, sloop of war. Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most. A baseball cap my Dad wore.
mtaylor Posted September 28, 2014 #2 Posted September 28, 2014 Brian, I guess I should ask: define reasonable? Alexy (one of our sponsors) makes a very nice one that has a motor option: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/5366-serving-machine-25-serving-machine-20-power-option/?hl=serving I have this one: http://www.shipahoymodels.com/equipmentforsale.htm (near the bottom of the page). Jack12477 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Don Quixote Posted September 28, 2014 Author #3 Posted September 28, 2014 Well, call this one solved. I found purchased this: Thanks! mtaylor and Azzoun 2 Quote Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 Scale. 2nd boat in the learning series. In Dry Dock: Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack. 1:24 scale. Model Shipways, 3rd in the learning series. Not sure what'll be next, probably the Santa Maria by Artesania Latina 1:65 scale. Unless someone has a better suggestion for a beginner. Pride of Baltimore. Model Shipways. Clipper used in the war of 1812. Black Falcon. Mantua Model. 18 century corsair brig. CSS. Alabama. E. Manolie? Can't read the font. Build in Liverpool in 1862 for use in the American Civil War by the Confederates. Steam and sail, sloop of war. Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most. A baseball cap my Dad wore.
Jack12477 Posted September 28, 2014 #4 Posted September 28, 2014 Brian, I have this one: http://www.shipahoymodels.com/equipmentforsale.htm (near the bottom of the page). Mark, Thanks for the lead. I've been looking for this website for a week now after I say the server on Gil Middleton's build log. Jack mtaylor 1 Quote Jack "No one is as smart as all of us" - Is ón cheann a thagann an cheird The craft comes from the head --------------------------------------------- Current build: US Constellation Non-ship builds: USCG UH-65A Dolphin M16 Multi-gun motor carriage diorama M4A3 Sherman Tanks dioramas 1936-1939 Mercedes Benz 540K 1934 Rolls-Royce Phantom II JSDF Light Armor Vehicle Figures: The Last Bridge: Raider Reaper Edge of Universe: Ianis The Last Bridge: Vadim with cart Completed build log(s): 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne, Willie L Bennett 1888 50 ft Gaff-rigged Ice Yacht Scratch Build The Sullivans (DD 537) Liberty Ship SS John W Brown USS England (DE 635), Artesania Latina Titanic Lifeboat Gallery: Swift , Armed Virginia Sloop, Santisima Trinidad Captain's Launch , 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne Other: Rhinebeck Aerodrome Tour
Perls Posted September 29, 2014 #5 Posted September 29, 2014 (edited) Hi Mark, A colleague of mine who knows I've gotten into shipbuilding, somehow had one of the serving machines you have and gave it to me. It didn't come with any kind of paperwork or instructions and I don't have the first idea of how the thing works. I based on the picture, I have all the parts. Is it difficult to use? Do you know how I might learn to use it? Thanks. Best, Steve Edited September 29, 2014 by Perls Quote
mtaylor Posted September 29, 2014 #6 Posted September 29, 2014 Steve, Have a look at Gil's Victory log starting here: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/485-hms-victory-by-gil-middleton-jotika-172/?p=128568 That post and the next one. He explains it very clearly. The box is in my wood storage area (closet) and if I can remember where in there I stashed it, I'll see if there's instructions. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Perls Posted September 30, 2014 #7 Posted September 30, 2014 (edited) Hi Mark, Thanks. I looked at Gil's build log and the way it looked to me that the machine was basically used to simply serve a thead around larger cord. Below are some pictures of what I will be needing to do: Do you think this machine can help do these? Don't worry about looking for the instructions, the gizmo has a phone number on it I will call. Thanks, Steve Edited September 30, 2014 by Perls Jeronimo 1 Quote
robnbill Posted September 30, 2014 #8 Posted September 30, 2014 I picked up some gears at the local RC Hobby store ad built mine. The only thing I would do differently next time would be to reverse the gears. Jack12477, Jeronimo, GLakie and 1 other 4 Quote Bill Chantilly, VA Its not the size of the ship, but the bore of the cannon! Current Build: Scratch Build Brig Eagle Completed Build Log: USS Constitution - Mamoli Completed Build Gallery: USS Constitution - Mamoli
mtaylor Posted September 30, 2014 #9 Posted September 30, 2014 Steve, It would let you serve the large line/cable only. As for the seizings, those would have to be done manually. So for a deadeye, you would serve the shroud, lay around the deadeye and then seize it. Third hands with two alligator clips are good for doing the seizing. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Perls Posted September 30, 2014 #10 Posted September 30, 2014 (edited) Thanks Again Mark, After I made the post, I realized that all the lines in the pictures were served first. Do I need to serve all the the shrouds/lines before I seize them to dead eyes, eye bolts, shackles, etc. ? If so, I'm really glad I have the machine! Thanks Again, Steve Edited September 30, 2014 by Perls Quote
mtaylor Posted September 30, 2014 #11 Posted September 30, 2014 The short answer is "yes". Serve before attaching. But not all lines are served.... Off the top of my head, I don't know which. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
GuntherMT Posted September 30, 2014 #12 Posted September 30, 2014 Steve, It would let you serve the large line/cable only. As for the seizings, those would have to be done manually. So for a deadeye, you would serve the shroud, lay around the deadeye and then seize it. Third hands with two alligator clips are good for doing the seizing. You can actually use the machine for seizing as well. Here is a video by Alexey, who is the maker of the serving machine. I think my link takes you to where he is finished assembling the machine and begins the demonstration on how to use it to serve rope, make beckets, strop blocks, and do seizing. http://youtu.be/o5gZQRN6yoU?t=7m8s mtaylor and Perls 2 Quote Brian Mystery project coming soon! Current build - Medway Longboat Complete - Armed Virginia Sloop Complete - Carmen (First Build)
mtaylor Posted September 30, 2014 #13 Posted September 30, 2014 Thanks for the video Brian. I've got it bookmarked for when I start my rigging. I didn't realize you could that. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Don Quixote Posted September 30, 2014 Author #14 Posted September 30, 2014 Thanks for the video Brian. I've got it bookmarked for when I start my rigging. I didn't realize you could that. I figure anyone that can build something like that after a half bottle of cognac has GOT to know what he's doing. VonHoldinghausen, Brian the extraordinaire and mtaylor 3 Quote Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 Scale. 2nd boat in the learning series. In Dry Dock: Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack. 1:24 scale. Model Shipways, 3rd in the learning series. Not sure what'll be next, probably the Santa Maria by Artesania Latina 1:65 scale. Unless someone has a better suggestion for a beginner. Pride of Baltimore. Model Shipways. Clipper used in the war of 1812. Black Falcon. Mantua Model. 18 century corsair brig. CSS. Alabama. E. Manolie? Can't read the font. Build in Liverpool in 1862 for use in the American Civil War by the Confederates. Steam and sail, sloop of war. Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most. A baseball cap my Dad wore.
Don Quixote Posted October 11, 2014 Author #15 Posted October 11, 2014 Serving machine arrived yesterday. 10 days. Not bad at all, ya ask me. mtaylor 1 Quote Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 Scale. 2nd boat in the learning series. In Dry Dock: Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack. 1:24 scale. Model Shipways, 3rd in the learning series. Not sure what'll be next, probably the Santa Maria by Artesania Latina 1:65 scale. Unless someone has a better suggestion for a beginner. Pride of Baltimore. Model Shipways. Clipper used in the war of 1812. Black Falcon. Mantua Model. 18 century corsair brig. CSS. Alabama. E. Manolie? Can't read the font. Build in Liverpool in 1862 for use in the American Civil War by the Confederates. Steam and sail, sloop of war. Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most. A baseball cap my Dad wore.
Don Quixote Posted October 11, 2014 Author #16 Posted October 11, 2014 You're not kidding. You'd have to use a hammer on those gears to break one! Quote Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 Scale. 2nd boat in the learning series. In Dry Dock: Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack. 1:24 scale. Model Shipways, 3rd in the learning series. Not sure what'll be next, probably the Santa Maria by Artesania Latina 1:65 scale. Unless someone has a better suggestion for a beginner. Pride of Baltimore. Model Shipways. Clipper used in the war of 1812. Black Falcon. Mantua Model. 18 century corsair brig. CSS. Alabama. E. Manolie? Can't read the font. Build in Liverpool in 1862 for use in the American Civil War by the Confederates. Steam and sail, sloop of war. Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most. A baseball cap my Dad wore.
mtaylor Posted October 12, 2014 #17 Posted October 12, 2014 He's also a sponsor. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Don Quixote Posted October 12, 2014 Author #18 Posted October 12, 2014 What does "sponsor" mean? Quote Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 Scale. 2nd boat in the learning series. In Dry Dock: Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack. 1:24 scale. Model Shipways, 3rd in the learning series. Not sure what'll be next, probably the Santa Maria by Artesania Latina 1:65 scale. Unless someone has a better suggestion for a beginner. Pride of Baltimore. Model Shipways. Clipper used in the war of 1812. Black Falcon. Mantua Model. 18 century corsair brig. CSS. Alabama. E. Manolie? Can't read the font. Build in Liverpool in 1862 for use in the American Civil War by the Confederates. Steam and sail, sloop of war. Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most. A baseball cap my Dad wore.
mtaylor Posted October 12, 2014 #19 Posted October 12, 2014 Go to the main page: http://modelshipworld.com/ . Down on right below the globe are number of dealers who help MSW by donating money, kits for auction, etc. You can also go here: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/41-traders-dealers-buying-or-selling-anything-post-it-here/ and have a look at the pinned posts. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
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