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A minor update just showing that i’m still working on the ST ..
Unfortunately for me the “building season” comes to an end (and the ST will get lower priority) as there’s no such thing as 48 hours in the sommer season.. 
 
As you might notice, I roughly sanded the hull to see how the end result will be.
 
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This is the current state:

 

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I have to think a bit about how to fix the marked areas of the hull as I don’t want to sand down too much, I will see how it goes when I completed the planking
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thanks Sjors,
unfortunately the ST is not double planked, so i have to do it right first time.
and at this stage i did not use any filler ...

 

Best wishes, Theo

 

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Hello Theo,

 

I have to think a bit about how to fix the marked areas of the hull as I don’t want to sand down too much, I will see how it goes when I completed the planking

Just have a look here. In the first thread of the topic, Dan Vadas explains how the fix gaps in planks.

 

Yours aren't really gaps, but you might give it a try to smooth out the surface of the hull.

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/814-how-i-fix-boo-boos-and-oopsies-by-dan-vadas-share-your-own-fixes-here/

 

Good luck,

 

Anja

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Looking really nice Theo

I am presuming that this build does not have a copper finish hull??

Never having actually seen one IRL I cannot imagine whether they enhance the build or whether covering the wonderful planking is a travesty

 

Keep it up

:10_1_10:

Mick

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Beautiful build Theo. The ST from Occre is one of my potential 'next builds' and your build is encouraging. I especially like the gun ports; those metal ports supplied look exactly like the stuff from AL on the San Fran. I will have to remember your technique and your carriages are a huge improvement too.

Looking forward to following along :)

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@ Anja,

Thank you for the link, interesting fixes !!, I might have an idea now of how to fix it (.. time will tell ..)

 

@ Mick,

No..  no copper finish for the ST, so it better has to be perfect the first time 

 

@ Randy,

Thank you for your kind words, and please follow along, I can only recommend the ST for your next build..

 

 

... I'm able to present an update soon with some pictures …

Best wishes, Theo

 

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.. As expected, the planking of the hull is a time consuming task ..
Hereby the latest status of the process..

 

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But as you might notice, the end is near !!, "only" 8-9 planks to go on both sides   :)

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Theo,

 

Hmmm superb work on your planking. Especially when you have only "one shot" at it. Beautiful..

 

Regards,

 

Michael

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Nice work Theo

I hope it all comes together for you 

 

Keep it up  :10_1_10: 

Mick

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Thank you ”loyal followers” for the encouraging words, it is needed at this stage.. 

It is a slow process and at the same time the end result is difficult to see.

 

So yes !! I would be very happy to finish this part of the build and to start sanding. 

Best wishes, Theo

 

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Thank you ”loyal followers” for the encouraging words, it is needed at this stage.. 
It is a slow process and at the same time the end result is difficult to see.
 
So yes !! I would be very happy to finish this part of the build and to start sanding. 

 

From the meagre experience I have of planking on the Racehorse, Thermopylae and to a lesser extent the Spirit you cannot give it enough time so that the sanding you have to do is the absolute minimum

 

I tried my best not to force the planks too much and ensure any gaps were as large as possible to avoid having too many 'toothpicks' in there

 

It will come together eventually

 

Keep it up  :10_1_10: 

Mick

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Thank you Mick, somewhere deep inside me I know you are so right, but still it takes ages..  :)

 

So to see something more visual and besides planking & waiting, I started to prepare the individual parts for the gun carriages.

 

I made some minor modifications, but in general they are a copy of the prototype I made earlier.

With the technique i came up with earlier and shown in a previous post I created all the sides (and fronts)  for all 28 carriages.

The next thing was drilling 3 holes in each for the eyebolts and support

 

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I also had to adjust the height of the carriages as the prototype was a bit too high, I decided for adjusting the cutouts for the wheel shafts as the best solution (without starting all over again..)

 

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As for the Wheel shafts  I adjusted the "production line" as i found the technique I previously used was to complex, time consuming  and not accurate enough.

I now have created each shaft from 3 individual made parts ..

 

- the square part of the shaft i cut in length on the FET table saw and I drilled holes on both sides 

- I made a  round stick in the correct diameter by using a homemade drawplate and cut them in small sections

- all parts where glued together

 

Underneath the visual explanation:

 

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Manufacturing Jig for the gun barrel brackets.

 

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As for creating the wheels:

Instead of using a lathe, I used the Proxxon FET table saw to cut Ø4mm and Ø5 mm sticks into 1,5 mm thick round slices..

And a Special Thanks to “mtayler” (Mark) for notifying me that the iron band around the wheels on my prototype is not very common (as they will destroy the wooden decks ..)

 

Including the Eyebolts and the "tiny bamboo sticks" (to fix the wheels onto the shafts) each gun carriage contains now 30 individual parts..

 

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Used assembly jig for the carriage

 

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Underneath some pictures of the very first gun carriage from my production line (with & without gun barrel) on deck of the ST :)

 

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Here’s another picture with a ruler (just for size comparison.)

 

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Theo,

 

Your canon carriages are in one word STUNNING. 

 

Regards,

 

Michael

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Beautiful work Theo

They are outstanding

I can see this being a marvellous build

Keep it up  :10_1_10:

Mick

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Thank you all for your kind words,

It is really appreciated & is encouraging me in a way that i'm not longer try to settle with any compromise

 

I know that this might seem like a small update, but it took me some time to produce all the 28 carriages.
So here’s the pictures where all 28 are nicely lined up
 
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..i can barely wait to put them in line on the ST..  :)
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Really nice work Theo

Tell me, what paint did you use on the cannon???

It really makes them look authentic

You have done a really good job there Theo

I think you even have Sjors outweighed with cannon here  :pirate41:

 

Keep it up  :10_1_10:

Mick

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Hej Sjors,

Please don’t even consider running away, ..you know.. the guns are not even loaded,,

(yet)  :huh:

 

Hej Mick,

I don’t paint the cannons (or any brass/copper parts I use ) 

What I use is some sort of an acid solution which I found on the internet locally in denmark .

Unfortunately they don’t mention what exactly is in it, but here’s the link to the website & product

 

.. So basically what i do is dropping the parts in this solution for a couple of hours and they will magically end up as “aged metal”..

Best wishes, Theo

 

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Guess what !!
I’m finished with planking the hull..  
So this will be the last update showing the planking progress.
The only thing remaining is sanding it.. :huh:   So I will probably also post pictures of the sanding progress.

 

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I closed the sections on the hull until app. 4 planks on each side where remaining

 

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After this i started with a reference plank on each side of the false keel

 

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and here's the result !! so far a perfectly closed hull 

 

 

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Nice planking Theo

Looking forward to seeing it sanded and polished or whatever you are going to finish it with

 

Keep it up  :10_1_10: 

Mick

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Thanks Mick, I’m looking forward to that myself  :D

 

In the meantime I found out that the provided keel in the kit was cut in plywood and additionaly had an “funny” color.

I think it is a shame to use it side by side with the sapelli covered hull and decided to scratch build them from a 5mm Mahogany sheet.

 

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After having cutout the bow section of the keel, I made an mistake during drilling of the holes .

As you might notice the holes are not equally spaced..

 

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Instead of starting all over again, I decided to be a bit creative and break-up the bow section in separate parts.

After this I could easily replace the section with the wrongly cut holes

 

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Here's the end-result

 

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Edited by GTM

Best wishes, Theo

 

Current Project:

Santisima Trinidad -> Build log

 

Finished Projects:

Smit Rotterdam -> Gallery

 

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