HMS Victory by dragzz - Corel - scale 1/98

[dragzz]

here it is this is the hms victory by corel i have looked all over the part and did a parts list it is all there now iam not building this for me its for my best friend who has passed a way so iam going to build it in is memory then put in a case  this build going to be slow   as u can see i had a copy of the plans make up in case i need to cut a peace out least i was thinking

[Sailor1234567890]

Good luck with the build. "The immortal memory" indeed.

[dragzz]

thank u sailor  its will be a fun build and a hard build but that how life goes some times

[dragzz]

heres a bit of an update  here i just did all the ribs i had to file the slots on the ribs so that thay fit the keel just right  and on the ribs u will see a line at the top of the slot that so i know when i put them on the keel that thay i know thay are all  seated just right there is a line on the keel as well for the same thing so far its going really well for me  

[Jeff-E]

Hi Dragzz,

 

A very nice gesture to your friend, a beautiful model,

 

Looks like you have made a good start I will follow your build with interest

[dragzz]

tys jeff-e   yes its a great ship fred liked it a lot going to make it look great going to take all the time i need

[dragzz]

ok i have got the ribs on the keel only as a dry fit so far look good but some of the rib still need a bit of work to them yet . not goign to glue till there right here some  pic

[popeye the sailor]

nice looking kit Dragzz.......I'm sure someone will be looking over your shoulder

[dragzz]

thanks popeye  thats the part of the build thats going to hard for me just take time like i say it will look great  when i get it done

[Shipyard sid]

Greetings dragzz

Good luck with your Victory. Just take your time and enjoy your build. I reckon Popeye will be correct about someone lucking over your shoulder. I look forward to following your progress. Regards DAVID

[JPett]

Ahoy Dragzz

 

And the journey begins. Looks like you off to a good start.

 

If it helps I have not yet committed to following the instructions on my build where the upper decks and gunports are concerned. You will need to cut out bulkheads 2 and 7 for the gunports on the lower gun deck. For now my thoughts are leading towards installing the lower gun deck, doing the first layer of planking above the wales , then cutting out the gunports, followed by the upper decks. I would be interested in your thoughts on this. If anything I am holding off mounting the upper decks until I get this figured out.

[harlequin]

I built this kit about 20 odd years ago and it still looks as good today as it did on completion. Good luck with the build

[dragzz]

tys jpett  iam not likeing have to cut bulkheads 2 and 7 going to have to go thu the plans better but frist i got to make a new jig for the keel the one i have now is just to lose and it leans to the side i dont want that later today i should have an update

 

 

thank u  shipyard

 

 

thanks  harlequin

[JPett]

Ahoy Dragzz  

 

Your base looks great

 

Stick a piece of paper in there to shim it

 

I clamp a square to the side of my keel when I take measurements.

[dragzz]

hello jpett what i did to day was build a better jig much better one 

[Jeff-E]

Hi Dragzz,

 

Looking good. I like your new keel holder.

 

Take your time and enjoy the build , like you say make sure everything fits to your satisfation before bringing out the glue

[dragzz]

thanks jeff-e  the jig u see really is nice took me 2hrs to do but works way better then the one did have . i cant glue the keel right now iam trying to take the warp out of it so right now its in the clamps all night i will be takeing them out of the clamps later to day i will have an update soon 

[dragzz]

ok now     i got the keel out of the clamps it looks all good now so now i glued keel to front part and it is now in the jig to dry so it dont move on me so here some pic of it   so far iam doing very well 

[dragzz]

i just put all my ribs on the plans to see if its match and wow there all out i have to sand down all the ribs to match the ones on the plans by hand that a lots of work o well that the way it goes

 

[popeye the sailor]

is the model 1:1 with the plans?    I'd check that out before I did any sanding.   when you had the ribs on the keel,  they looked fine

 

    how are you going to square up the ribs as you cement them in place?

[JPett]

Ahoy Dragzz

 

I had to do a considerable amount of sanding to fit everything but almost none when it came to the shape of the bulkheads

[dragzz]

here a pic of one of the bulkheads 

u will see on the left side of the bulkhead  how over it is all of my bulkheads are like  that  1 thu 14  

 

 

popeye i checked of to the plans befor i did any thing the keel was fine did not need sanded at 

[dragzz]

ok so now i sanded the bulkheads very little tho i match them to the plans to me the look better i the jig now next thing will the beams to get setup then dry fit them all place 

 

[Jeff-E]

Hi Dragzz,

 

 Please be careful before you start to sand your frames. I agree with Popeye, your dry fit of the frames looked great, I would double check your plans to make sure they are 1:1 with the model. If all of your frames are out by the same amount as in your picture it would suggest to me that the plans are close to 1:1 but not exactly.

I just checked my plans for the Unicorn by Corel against the false keel and the decks and they are out, not by much but they are out.

If you want to check the symetry of the frames can I suggest Frank Mastinis' method which is to draw an exact centre line on each frame then make a template of each frame on a piece of thin card, like a manila folder, copy the centre line onto the card template and then fold the the card in half along this line and staple it or glue it together then trim off any overhang, if any from the edges, now place the card onto  either side of the frame,  with the folded edge along the centre line marked on your frame and you will see if there is any small differences betwween either side that needs to be sanded off and you should end up with a perfectly symetrical frames.

I hope my description of his method is not to complicated 

 

I would post some pictures fom his book but I'm not sure about copyright rules

 

I have added some photos of the plans I hope you don't mind

 

 

 

As you can see in the last 2 photos there is a difference as to what is drawn on the plan and the actual dimension

 

 

 

I don't know if the plans for the Victory are differrent  but these plans have no scale printed on them any where which makes me ask the question are they 1:1. I hope this helps 

Edited December 17, 2013 by Jeff-E

[popeye the sailor]

basically,  what your seeing is the  'extra' that they add to the ribs.   later,  when the hull frame is fared for planking,  you will be sanding this off....at this time.   remember that as the hull tapers to shape,  certain areas of the ribs are going to be beveled to create this.  I wasn't concerned with the keel part.........just don't go any further with the rib sanding.......you could possibly send the shape of the frame into ill proportions

[dragzz]

ok guys what i said all i did was sand the flat side of the ribs not the shape of it i did not touch

[dragzz]

in the pics u will i have glued all the bulkheads it all good i met in town thats have done a corel kit befor so he came over to help with the bulkheads he said i was doing what he would have done so all i fine now he i do need help he said he help if i cant get it thats so nice so here the pic

[Jeff-E]

Hi Dragzz,

 

The frames look good fitted all kook nice and square and seem to be sitting in the keel nicely. Well done  

[popeye the sailor]

looking good Dragzz..........your off and running now! 

[dragzz]

i know this going to sound bit funny i took my time to get the keel and bulkheads right the frist time so what did was i ran string front to back left to right ran string from bulk head to bulkhead what u see is what i got it came out just right   thank u all for great help cant wait for the next part to start