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Blue Ensign got a reaction from KARAVOKIRIS in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Thank you Ron, and Allan for your input.
3787
Chris has done a great job on designing and producing the strops/chain link combinations to allow the fitting of these with the minimum of fuss, and with an excellent result.
3789
The trade-off is that the middle link chains of necessity have a tiny gap that is necessary for linking the strops to the lower chains and is a simplification much appreciated.
The middle links should retain that elongated oval shape and personally I don’t think they are improved by either turning them into effectively an iron strap with eyes either end, or trying to squeeze the gap together that risks deforming that perfect oval shape.
David Antcherl does indeed cover the making of chains from scratch very well, but in this case, and at this scale, even my inner pedant recognises that rejigging the chains is simply not worth the effort of messing with Chris’s excellent set-up.
B.E.
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from KARAVOKIRIS in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post One Hundred and fifty
Completing the ports
The two enclosed Qtr deck ports remained to be done.
Usual top hinged lids into the Great cabin, and a pair of side opening doors into the Coach and Bed space.
3660
I thought I had done with queries about ports, but I’m not entirely convinced why side opening doors are shown in the position they are, constrained by Mizen chains which only allow them to open half way.
They are a feature usually found in positions above the channels, or at the foremost bow port, where space is restricted.
2231
This shot onboard Victory taken when I blagged my way onto the Poop deck shows similar doors in place.
The photo also has other interesting features. Note the tube thro’ which the port lid lanyard goes inboard, and that the port only has one lanyard presumably due it being of lightweight construction over a Qtr deck cabin.
The final interesting feature for detail fans is the knot secured on the Mizen channel.
This is the reason at the time I wanted to look over the Poop.
The knot secures the Rudder pendant which attaches to the chains and is used to control the rudder should the tiller lines be shot away.
Back to INDY..
Notwithstanding the above, the side doors do make a nice feature and provide additional interest to the build, more so if displayed closed.
1901a
I used a normal port lid as it makes more sense to me.
Stern Ports
There are two stern ports engraved on the lower counter, the plans show use of provided hinges (PE47) over the patterns, but I didn’t seem to have sufficient to do this, but the Laser board Syren straps filled in nicely.
3794
This is not a very prominent area of the model but that is no reason not to enhance it.
3796
Addition of double lift rings and lanyards complete the effect.
3800
The trickiest part is securing the lanyards thro’ the lifting rings using a false splice.
3799
Getting the needle thro’ the 0.3mm line is a severe test of my aging eyesight.
1900a
Still lot to do on this build.
B.E.
26/02/2024
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from Rustyj in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post One Hundred and fifty
Completing the ports
The two enclosed Qtr deck ports remained to be done.
Usual top hinged lids into the Great cabin, and a pair of side opening doors into the Coach and Bed space.
3660
I thought I had done with queries about ports, but I’m not entirely convinced why side opening doors are shown in the position they are, constrained by Mizen chains which only allow them to open half way.
They are a feature usually found in positions above the channels, or at the foremost bow port, where space is restricted.
2231
This shot onboard Victory taken when I blagged my way onto the Poop deck shows similar doors in place.
The photo also has other interesting features. Note the tube thro’ which the port lid lanyard goes inboard, and that the port only has one lanyard presumably due it being of lightweight construction over a Qtr deck cabin.
The final interesting feature for detail fans is the knot secured on the Mizen channel.
This is the reason at the time I wanted to look over the Poop.
The knot secures the Rudder pendant which attaches to the chains and is used to control the rudder should the tiller lines be shot away.
Back to INDY..
Notwithstanding the above, the side doors do make a nice feature and provide additional interest to the build, more so if displayed closed.
1901a
I used a normal port lid as it makes more sense to me.
Stern Ports
There are two stern ports engraved on the lower counter, the plans show use of provided hinges (PE47) over the patterns, but I didn’t seem to have sufficient to do this, but the Laser board Syren straps filled in nicely.
3794
This is not a very prominent area of the model but that is no reason not to enhance it.
3796
Addition of double lift rings and lanyards complete the effect.
3800
The trickiest part is securing the lanyards thro’ the lifting rings using a false splice.
3799
Getting the needle thro’ the 0.3mm line is a severe test of my aging eyesight.
1900a
Still lot to do on this build.
B.E.
26/02/2024
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from dunnock in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post One Hundred and fifty
Completing the ports
The two enclosed Qtr deck ports remained to be done.
Usual top hinged lids into the Great cabin, and a pair of side opening doors into the Coach and Bed space.
3660
I thought I had done with queries about ports, but I’m not entirely convinced why side opening doors are shown in the position they are, constrained by Mizen chains which only allow them to open half way.
They are a feature usually found in positions above the channels, or at the foremost bow port, where space is restricted.
2231
This shot onboard Victory taken when I blagged my way onto the Poop deck shows similar doors in place.
The photo also has other interesting features. Note the tube thro’ which the port lid lanyard goes inboard, and that the port only has one lanyard presumably due it being of lightweight construction over a Qtr deck cabin.
The final interesting feature for detail fans is the knot secured on the Mizen channel.
This is the reason at the time I wanted to look over the Poop.
The knot secures the Rudder pendant which attaches to the chains and is used to control the rudder should the tiller lines be shot away.
Back to INDY..
Notwithstanding the above, the side doors do make a nice feature and provide additional interest to the build, more so if displayed closed.
1901a
I used a normal port lid as it makes more sense to me.
Stern Ports
There are two stern ports engraved on the lower counter, the plans show use of provided hinges (PE47) over the patterns, but I didn’t seem to have sufficient to do this, but the Laser board Syren straps filled in nicely.
3794
This is not a very prominent area of the model but that is no reason not to enhance it.
3796
Addition of double lift rings and lanyards complete the effect.
3800
The trickiest part is securing the lanyards thro’ the lifting rings using a false splice.
3799
Getting the needle thro’ the 0.3mm line is a severe test of my aging eyesight.
1900a
Still lot to do on this build.
B.E.
26/02/2024
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from Theodosius in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post One Hundred and fifty
Completing the ports
The two enclosed Qtr deck ports remained to be done.
Usual top hinged lids into the Great cabin, and a pair of side opening doors into the Coach and Bed space.
3660
I thought I had done with queries about ports, but I’m not entirely convinced why side opening doors are shown in the position they are, constrained by Mizen chains which only allow them to open half way.
They are a feature usually found in positions above the channels, or at the foremost bow port, where space is restricted.
2231
This shot onboard Victory taken when I blagged my way onto the Poop deck shows similar doors in place.
The photo also has other interesting features. Note the tube thro’ which the port lid lanyard goes inboard, and that the port only has one lanyard presumably due it being of lightweight construction over a Qtr deck cabin.
The final interesting feature for detail fans is the knot secured on the Mizen channel.
This is the reason at the time I wanted to look over the Poop.
The knot secures the Rudder pendant which attaches to the chains and is used to control the rudder should the tiller lines be shot away.
Back to INDY..
Notwithstanding the above, the side doors do make a nice feature and provide additional interest to the build, more so if displayed closed.
1901a
I used a normal port lid as it makes more sense to me.
Stern Ports
There are two stern ports engraved on the lower counter, the plans show use of provided hinges (PE47) over the patterns, but I didn’t seem to have sufficient to do this, but the Laser board Syren straps filled in nicely.
3794
This is not a very prominent area of the model but that is no reason not to enhance it.
3796
Addition of double lift rings and lanyards complete the effect.
3800
The trickiest part is securing the lanyards thro’ the lifting rings using a false splice.
3799
Getting the needle thro’ the 0.3mm line is a severe test of my aging eyesight.
1900a
Still lot to do on this build.
B.E.
26/02/2024
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from Beef Wellington in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post One Hundred and fifty
Completing the ports
The two enclosed Qtr deck ports remained to be done.
Usual top hinged lids into the Great cabin, and a pair of side opening doors into the Coach and Bed space.
3660
I thought I had done with queries about ports, but I’m not entirely convinced why side opening doors are shown in the position they are, constrained by Mizen chains which only allow them to open half way.
They are a feature usually found in positions above the channels, or at the foremost bow port, where space is restricted.
2231
This shot onboard Victory taken when I blagged my way onto the Poop deck shows similar doors in place.
The photo also has other interesting features. Note the tube thro’ which the port lid lanyard goes inboard, and that the port only has one lanyard presumably due it being of lightweight construction over a Qtr deck cabin.
The final interesting feature for detail fans is the knot secured on the Mizen channel.
This is the reason at the time I wanted to look over the Poop.
The knot secures the Rudder pendant which attaches to the chains and is used to control the rudder should the tiller lines be shot away.
Back to INDY..
Notwithstanding the above, the side doors do make a nice feature and provide additional interest to the build, more so if displayed closed.
1901a
I used a normal port lid as it makes more sense to me.
Stern Ports
There are two stern ports engraved on the lower counter, the plans show use of provided hinges (PE47) over the patterns, but I didn’t seem to have sufficient to do this, but the Laser board Syren straps filled in nicely.
3794
This is not a very prominent area of the model but that is no reason not to enhance it.
3796
Addition of double lift rings and lanyards complete the effect.
3800
The trickiest part is securing the lanyards thro’ the lifting rings using a false splice.
3799
Getting the needle thro’ the 0.3mm line is a severe test of my aging eyesight.
1900a
Still lot to do on this build.
B.E.
26/02/2024
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from fake johnbull in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post One Hundred and fifty
Completing the ports
The two enclosed Qtr deck ports remained to be done.
Usual top hinged lids into the Great cabin, and a pair of side opening doors into the Coach and Bed space.
3660
I thought I had done with queries about ports, but I’m not entirely convinced why side opening doors are shown in the position they are, constrained by Mizen chains which only allow them to open half way.
They are a feature usually found in positions above the channels, or at the foremost bow port, where space is restricted.
2231
This shot onboard Victory taken when I blagged my way onto the Poop deck shows similar doors in place.
The photo also has other interesting features. Note the tube thro’ which the port lid lanyard goes inboard, and that the port only has one lanyard presumably due it being of lightweight construction over a Qtr deck cabin.
The final interesting feature for detail fans is the knot secured on the Mizen channel.
This is the reason at the time I wanted to look over the Poop.
The knot secures the Rudder pendant which attaches to the chains and is used to control the rudder should the tiller lines be shot away.
Back to INDY..
Notwithstanding the above, the side doors do make a nice feature and provide additional interest to the build, more so if displayed closed.
1901a
I used a normal port lid as it makes more sense to me.
Stern Ports
There are two stern ports engraved on the lower counter, the plans show use of provided hinges (PE47) over the patterns, but I didn’t seem to have sufficient to do this, but the Laser board Syren straps filled in nicely.
3794
This is not a very prominent area of the model but that is no reason not to enhance it.
3796
Addition of double lift rings and lanyards complete the effect.
3800
The trickiest part is securing the lanyards thro’ the lifting rings using a false splice.
3799
Getting the needle thro’ the 0.3mm line is a severe test of my aging eyesight.
1900a
Still lot to do on this build.
B.E.
26/02/2024
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from Mr Whippy in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post One Hundred and fifty
Completing the ports
The two enclosed Qtr deck ports remained to be done.
Usual top hinged lids into the Great cabin, and a pair of side opening doors into the Coach and Bed space.
3660
I thought I had done with queries about ports, but I’m not entirely convinced why side opening doors are shown in the position they are, constrained by Mizen chains which only allow them to open half way.
They are a feature usually found in positions above the channels, or at the foremost bow port, where space is restricted.
2231
This shot onboard Victory taken when I blagged my way onto the Poop deck shows similar doors in place.
The photo also has other interesting features. Note the tube thro’ which the port lid lanyard goes inboard, and that the port only has one lanyard presumably due it being of lightweight construction over a Qtr deck cabin.
The final interesting feature for detail fans is the knot secured on the Mizen channel.
This is the reason at the time I wanted to look over the Poop.
The knot secures the Rudder pendant which attaches to the chains and is used to control the rudder should the tiller lines be shot away.
Back to INDY..
Notwithstanding the above, the side doors do make a nice feature and provide additional interest to the build, more so if displayed closed.
1901a
I used a normal port lid as it makes more sense to me.
Stern Ports
There are two stern ports engraved on the lower counter, the plans show use of provided hinges (PE47) over the patterns, but I didn’t seem to have sufficient to do this, but the Laser board Syren straps filled in nicely.
3794
This is not a very prominent area of the model but that is no reason not to enhance it.
3796
Addition of double lift rings and lanyards complete the effect.
3800
The trickiest part is securing the lanyards thro’ the lifting rings using a false splice.
3799
Getting the needle thro’ the 0.3mm line is a severe test of my aging eyesight.
1900a
Still lot to do on this build.
B.E.
26/02/2024
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from mgatrost in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post One Hundred and fifty
Completing the ports
The two enclosed Qtr deck ports remained to be done.
Usual top hinged lids into the Great cabin, and a pair of side opening doors into the Coach and Bed space.
3660
I thought I had done with queries about ports, but I’m not entirely convinced why side opening doors are shown in the position they are, constrained by Mizen chains which only allow them to open half way.
They are a feature usually found in positions above the channels, or at the foremost bow port, where space is restricted.
2231
This shot onboard Victory taken when I blagged my way onto the Poop deck shows similar doors in place.
The photo also has other interesting features. Note the tube thro’ which the port lid lanyard goes inboard, and that the port only has one lanyard presumably due it being of lightweight construction over a Qtr deck cabin.
The final interesting feature for detail fans is the knot secured on the Mizen channel.
This is the reason at the time I wanted to look over the Poop.
The knot secures the Rudder pendant which attaches to the chains and is used to control the rudder should the tiller lines be shot away.
Back to INDY..
Notwithstanding the above, the side doors do make a nice feature and provide additional interest to the build, more so if displayed closed.
1901a
I used a normal port lid as it makes more sense to me.
Stern Ports
There are two stern ports engraved on the lower counter, the plans show use of provided hinges (PE47) over the patterns, but I didn’t seem to have sufficient to do this, but the Laser board Syren straps filled in nicely.
3794
This is not a very prominent area of the model but that is no reason not to enhance it.
3796
Addition of double lift rings and lanyards complete the effect.
3800
The trickiest part is securing the lanyards thro’ the lifting rings using a false splice.
3799
Getting the needle thro’ the 0.3mm line is a severe test of my aging eyesight.
1900a
Still lot to do on this build.
B.E.
26/02/2024
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from Mirabell61 in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post One Hundred and fifty
Completing the ports
The two enclosed Qtr deck ports remained to be done.
Usual top hinged lids into the Great cabin, and a pair of side opening doors into the Coach and Bed space.
3660
I thought I had done with queries about ports, but I’m not entirely convinced why side opening doors are shown in the position they are, constrained by Mizen chains which only allow them to open half way.
They are a feature usually found in positions above the channels, or at the foremost bow port, where space is restricted.
2231
This shot onboard Victory taken when I blagged my way onto the Poop deck shows similar doors in place.
The photo also has other interesting features. Note the tube thro’ which the port lid lanyard goes inboard, and that the port only has one lanyard presumably due it being of lightweight construction over a Qtr deck cabin.
The final interesting feature for detail fans is the knot secured on the Mizen channel.
This is the reason at the time I wanted to look over the Poop.
The knot secures the Rudder pendant which attaches to the chains and is used to control the rudder should the tiller lines be shot away.
Back to INDY..
Notwithstanding the above, the side doors do make a nice feature and provide additional interest to the build, more so if displayed closed.
1901a
I used a normal port lid as it makes more sense to me.
Stern Ports
There are two stern ports engraved on the lower counter, the plans show use of provided hinges (PE47) over the patterns, but I didn’t seem to have sufficient to do this, but the Laser board Syren straps filled in nicely.
3794
This is not a very prominent area of the model but that is no reason not to enhance it.
3796
Addition of double lift rings and lanyards complete the effect.
3800
The trickiest part is securing the lanyards thro’ the lifting rings using a false splice.
3799
Getting the needle thro’ the 0.3mm line is a severe test of my aging eyesight.
1900a
Still lot to do on this build.
B.E.
26/02/2024
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Blue Ensign reacted to glbarlow in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
That is a clever idea, wish I’d read this about a year ago when I did my port lids. Nice!
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from HardeeHarHar in HM Cutter Trial 1790 by AJohnson - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64th
Nice progress Andrew, and that subtle weathering of the lower hull has worked a treat.👍
Not too sure about those belay pins tho' !
Regards,
B.E.
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from CODY in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Thank you Ron, and Allan for your input.
3787
Chris has done a great job on designing and producing the strops/chain link combinations to allow the fitting of these with the minimum of fuss, and with an excellent result.
3789
The trade-off is that the middle link chains of necessity have a tiny gap that is necessary for linking the strops to the lower chains and is a simplification much appreciated.
The middle links should retain that elongated oval shape and personally I don’t think they are improved by either turning them into effectively an iron strap with eyes either end, or trying to squeeze the gap together that risks deforming that perfect oval shape.
David Antcherl does indeed cover the making of chains from scratch very well, but in this case, and at this scale, even my inner pedant recognises that rejigging the chains is simply not worth the effort of messing with Chris’s excellent set-up.
B.E.
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from Theodosius in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Thank you Ron, and Allan for your input.
3787
Chris has done a great job on designing and producing the strops/chain link combinations to allow the fitting of these with the minimum of fuss, and with an excellent result.
3789
The trade-off is that the middle link chains of necessity have a tiny gap that is necessary for linking the strops to the lower chains and is a simplification much appreciated.
The middle links should retain that elongated oval shape and personally I don’t think they are improved by either turning them into effectively an iron strap with eyes either end, or trying to squeeze the gap together that risks deforming that perfect oval shape.
David Antcherl does indeed cover the making of chains from scratch very well, but in this case, and at this scale, even my inner pedant recognises that rejigging the chains is simply not worth the effort of messing with Chris’s excellent set-up.
B.E.
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from KARAVOKIRIS in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post One Hundred and Forty-five
Stern Lanterns
A pair of Resin lanterns are provided in the kit with Brass etch brackets. Pre-cut acetate glazing that only requires folding to shape, completes the package.
Beautifully crafted, but my initial impression was that they looked a tad on the small size, but I needed to see them on the model.
3685
The plan is used to get the line of the crank.
3686
Assembly is simple, the tricky part if it can be called that, is fitting the ironwork to the stern gallery, particularly when you have lost track of the fixing holes.🙄
3688
I found it easier to use longer lengths of 0.8mm brass wire to form and fit the cranks.
3690
The only addition I made are fixing plates to the stern.
Apart from that I had to file the bottom of the clear glazing a tad to allow the lantern tops to sit down on the framing.
3694
Is my initial impression that they may be a little undersized borne out?
Perhaps not when compared to the contemporary model of Amazon below.
Amazon Stern
I could not find original records relating the ships lantern sizes by rate, and of course I’m not privy to the information used as a basis for the ‘Indy’ Lanterns.
I did check out relative sizes from my available sources, and for what it’s worth this is what I gleaned.
Victory - side lantern 57½” o/a height (22.8mm at 1:64 scale)
Bellona – 62½” o/a height (24.8mm at 1:64) scale drawing AotS book.
Pandora – 40¼” o/a height (16.0mm at 1:64) scale drawing AotS book.
Leopard (50 gun ship 1790) - 53” o/a height (21mm at 1:64) Scale drawing John McKay from The 50-Gun Ship.
Sixth rate sloop– 51” o/a height (20.25mm at 1:64) scale drawing FFM Sixth rate book from a reconstruction.
Indefatigable – 44” o/a height (17.5mm at 1:64 scale) - actual kit fitting.
Another option is the exquisite Boxwood lantern 3/16th (1:64) scale from Syren.
This measures 7/8th" (22.25mm) which equates to a 56” o/a height.
1827
I used this on my Pegasus build, and I think it is a viable option for ‘Indy’.
3704
On balance I think I will stick with the kit version.
3702
3697
Onwards,
B.E.
16/02/2024
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from glbarlow in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post One Hundred and Forty-three
Strops, Chains, and Plates. (Part One)
Time consuming items, even before assembly starts.
Removing from the fret, sorting the various components, prepping for chemical blackening, and the process itself.
3626
It helps to have a system to speed up the job and to avoid mixing up the parts.
There are a lot of individual items to be blackened, which are done in batches per side.
My procedure:
Clean with fine steel wool.
Acid dip and rinse.
Immerse in diluted blackening fluid. My preference is for Carr’s Metal black for brass.
Rinse
Buff and repeat to taste.
3628
3630
Using the above system the strops blackened quickly and following a buff required very little re-treatment.
3631
The strops fit beautifully thro’ the channel slots without any need for adjustment.
Fitting the Deadeyes into the strops is done with care to reduce the risk of scarring the blackened strops.
3634
These pliers are perfect for the job.
3644
3636
3652
For the aftermost strop on the Mizen stool which is for the T’gallant Backstay I have replaced the 3mm deadeye arrangement with a 2.5mm size, to better reflect the lighter line.
3654
The T’gallant Backstay is of 2½” circ. This equates to a scale diameter of 0.3mm, compared to 0.5mm ø for the 4”circ Topmast backstays.
3656
The smaller version dispenses with links and chains and is fixed directly to the hull adjacent to the roof line. This accords with the Official Adm plan.
One additional benefit is that there is no need to try and cram an additional chain fixing in the very small space between the gallery lights and the aftermost gunport.
Two full days have been spent on the starboard side thus far, but a race it ain’t.
The second stage is fixing the chains and Preventer plates to secure the strops.
Hoping that the Preventer plates fall right on my build.🤞
B.E.
10/02/2024
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from wvdhee in HMS Flirt by wvdhee - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64
Very nicely done Walter, excellent progress. 👍
B.E.
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Blue Ensign reacted to wvdhee in HMS Flirt by wvdhee - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64
Major milestone! Finished second planking 🙂 and quite happy with it tbh.
It's smooth, lovely curves, no big gaps anywhere. I haven't used any filler so far and wondering if I'll need to, we'll see.
I'm also happy with the red color I chose for the inside bulwarks, it's a period pigment 😉 Carmine red from AK interactive. I know what you're saying that carmine wasn't available to the British at that time, but Mr. King, the ship's builder was heavily involved with smuggling (that's a fact) so any color is justifiable 😉
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Blue Ensign reacted to wvdhee in HMS Flirt by wvdhee - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64
First planking done, well apart from the emergency repair on the deadwood. (Note to self, easy with the Dremel)
But overall quite pleased. Some sanding to be done still, not sure I need filler... We'll see.
The lines are just gorgeous, it's difficult to see on a photo, you gotta trust me on that 😉
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Blue Ensign reacted to dvm27 in Skylight Measurement for HMS Pegasus 1776.
David Antscherl, in The Fully Framed Model, Volume 11, discusses this issue and concludes that either a grating or clerestory-style companionway would be appropriate for a 1779 vessel of 300 tons. On my Pegasus model I opted for the more visually interesting clerestory-style companion.
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from hollowneck in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Thank you Ron, and Allan for your input.
3787
Chris has done a great job on designing and producing the strops/chain link combinations to allow the fitting of these with the minimum of fuss, and with an excellent result.
3789
The trade-off is that the middle link chains of necessity have a tiny gap that is necessary for linking the strops to the lower chains and is a simplification much appreciated.
The middle links should retain that elongated oval shape and personally I don’t think they are improved by either turning them into effectively an iron strap with eyes either end, or trying to squeeze the gap together that risks deforming that perfect oval shape.
David Antcherl does indeed cover the making of chains from scratch very well, but in this case, and at this scale, even my inner pedant recognises that rejigging the chains is simply not worth the effort of messing with Chris’s excellent set-up.
B.E.
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from dunnock in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Thank you Ron, and Allan for your input.
3787
Chris has done a great job on designing and producing the strops/chain link combinations to allow the fitting of these with the minimum of fuss, and with an excellent result.
3789
The trade-off is that the middle link chains of necessity have a tiny gap that is necessary for linking the strops to the lower chains and is a simplification much appreciated.
The middle links should retain that elongated oval shape and personally I don’t think they are improved by either turning them into effectively an iron strap with eyes either end, or trying to squeeze the gap together that risks deforming that perfect oval shape.
David Antcherl does indeed cover the making of chains from scratch very well, but in this case, and at this scale, even my inner pedant recognises that rejigging the chains is simply not worth the effort of messing with Chris’s excellent set-up.
B.E.
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from mtaylor in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Thank you Ron, and Allan for your input.
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Chris has done a great job on designing and producing the strops/chain link combinations to allow the fitting of these with the minimum of fuss, and with an excellent result.
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The trade-off is that the middle link chains of necessity have a tiny gap that is necessary for linking the strops to the lower chains and is a simplification much appreciated.
The middle links should retain that elongated oval shape and personally I don’t think they are improved by either turning them into effectively an iron strap with eyes either end, or trying to squeeze the gap together that risks deforming that perfect oval shape.
David Antcherl does indeed cover the making of chains from scratch very well, but in this case, and at this scale, even my inner pedant recognises that rejigging the chains is simply not worth the effort of messing with Chris’s excellent set-up.
B.E.
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from Dave_E in HM Cutter Trial 1790 by AJohnson - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64th
Nice progress Andrew, and that subtle weathering of the lower hull has worked a treat.👍
Not too sure about those belay pins tho' !
Regards,
B.E.
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from KARAVOKIRIS in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post One Hundred and forty-nine
Thinking more about Gunport lid fittings
Before I start the gunport fixing on the Starboard side, my mind keeps returning to those single lanyard fittings.
The provided port lids look pretty enough and the brass etch versions provide an easy fixing to the hull with the combined hinge, port stop and flexible tangs for fixing the lid to the hull in the open position.
However, I do like to make changes to enhance historical accuracy where I can, and I think Indy should really have double lanyards.
On a model the size of Indy, particularly Navy board style, such detail gains more prominence, not having all the top hamper to distract the eye.
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Revision One
I have mocked up a revised port using a spare port lid.
I am using Syren laser board rudder straps, cut to size to act as the hinge straps.
These conveniently have nail holes pre-drilled, the bottom one is drilled thro’ to take the ring bolts for the lanyards.
The tricky part is representing the port hooks that secure the hinge.
For the purposes of my exercise, I have used separate tiny segments of Boxwood.
The final touch is to add spots of pva to represent the bolt heads.
This would work for closed ports but for open ports wire would need to be inserted in the top edge to replace the tangs on the kit version.
Revision Two
I had abandoned an early attempt to drill thro’ the bottom bolt head of the kit hinge due to broken bits.
I resolved to try again.
I filed the bolt head flat and started the hole with an awl. This time I was able to drill thro’ using a 0.6mm drill in a pin vise without breaking the bit.
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I secured the hinge to my mini anvil using double sided tape.
The ideal solution would be if the hinges could be pre-drilled during manufacture.
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Modified hinge straps on the Fore port. The example above it is the laser board version.
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The forward of the three port lids will be displayed open.
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So, the starboard side ports are fitted with correct double lanyard fixings, and the Port side for a central single lanyard.
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Perversely, I think the single lanyard arrangement has a better aesthetic.
One last thought on gunport lids:
The second and third ports from the bow, adjacent to the Galley, are without lids. These ports lie beneath the Fore Channels.
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This is a tricky area, some contemporary models have them some don’t.
Logical thinking would support the fitting of lids for those adjacent to the Galley Stove. One big wave and out goes the stove fire that the cook has spent some time getting up to heat, but I don't think they lit the stove in very severe weather..
I note that Alex M’s drawings for his Anson razee do include lids in this area, and incidentally double lid lanyards.
The fitting of port lids in the open waist and Qtr deck areas was removed by Navy Board order dating from 1703.
Well, that little excursion has soaked up a day and a half,
...........time to move on.🙄
B.E.
24/02/2024