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HMS Beagle by maurino - Mamoli
bluenose2 replied to maurino's topic in - Kit build logs for subjects built from 1801 - 1850
It's always good to see builders using whats at hand. It shows you don't have to go to a store front to get the job done. Nice fix. -
My question is how do I determine the upper deck height so I can get the correct build for the upper deck. does any one know as this will determine how to carry on with the build.
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Hello bluenose here. I have to eat some crow on my comments. On further review the guns are indeed on the top deck. What fooled me was I thought the photo showed the upper deck not completed to show below decks detail. The gunwales appear high so as to make it appear that the guns were below deck. Sorry about that.
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HMS Beagle by maurino - Mamoli
bluenose2 replied to maurino's topic in - Kit build logs for subjects built from 1801 - 1850
Hello bluenose here. After researching my new Marquardt book more closely I was wrong about the guns being on a lower deck. They just appear so because of the high gunwales.They are in fact on the upper deck. What faked me out was the high gunwales. Sorry about that. -
HMS Beagle by maurino - Mamoli
bluenose2 replied to maurino's topic in - Kit build logs for subjects built from 1801 - 1850
I will be keeping an eye on your build for future reference. Good luck. -
HMS Beagle by maurino - Mamoli
bluenose2 replied to maurino's topic in - Kit build logs for subjects built from 1801 - 1850
Hi ! bluenose here. I have the Mamoli kit also. Something you should be aware of. The Beagle as represented by Mamoli as the ship Darwin sailed on is based on the ship as it was before 1831 when he sailed aboard it. After some research and purchasing the book by Karl Heinz Marquardt. Conway Maritime Press. You will see that there are major differences in the Mamoli kit and the Beagle that Charles Darwin sailed on. Most importantly the canons on the Darwin ship were below decks and not on the top deck. This kit will require some extensive kit bashing to get it correct. So before you spend any more time on this kit please purchase the book to see what you are up against. I will still do the build but I need some more experience to do it justice. Good luck. -
Thank you. I have tried that approach and ca glue also. Both make the rope look wet and don't let it return to it's natural colour. Is that acceptable for rigging up a ship? Thanx Les.
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Hi Les here. I am having a struggle making up the ropes that lay over the belaying pins. I have a source that has pins on a block so that they bend as if coiled around a belaying pin. However when I apply glue to hold the shape they are stiff and look as if they have been dipped in goo. Is there a way to make these up and have the ropes not look like they have been waxed to death? Many thanx Les.
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Thanks for the input. I purchased this kit before getting the book. So I was quite disappointed that it doesn't look anything like the ship should have. Mucho kit bashing in my future I see. I will pack it away and work on some other projects to gain more experience so I can do it justice. Thanx Les.
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I have Marquardt's book on the Beagle. A quick note in the front cover says survey ship fully rigged as barque, after 1825. The guns are indeed below decks in his book and many details are very different from the Mamoli kit. This leads me to believe that the Mamoli ship was the one used before Darwin's voyage, not the one represented by Mamoli as the ship Darwin sailed on to the Galapagos. Any thoughts on this? Thanx Les.
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Pictures of Mamoli plans for deck guns. How do I rig them?
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Latest on St. Roch. Just waiting for the new rigging and stuff from Bluejacket
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thanx mulch. Les.
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Sorry wrong person. this question is directed to Jim Lad. But thanx for the info.
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Yipes!! Ok an easier question I hope. The antennae wire you talked about being copper. Would it weather to black or would it stay bright copper? Thanx from the colonies.
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Good stuff thanx. Is there a good book on the topic of signal flags so I can light her up a little?
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G day. Les calling back. I have a question regarding signal flags. On some pictures of ships and boats at anchor or coming into port some fly a multitude of signal flags. What would these flags say and what would the reasons be? What would be the proper etiquette for my St. Roch to display some signals? Thanx Les.
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My biggest beef with Billings kits are the instructions. Some of the details are inscrutable and take time to figure out. They require very good reference photos to get all the details out of them. My St. Roch is building up nicely, after some after market parts and scratch building. Being old enough to remember National Geographics shows about Jaques Cousteau's Callipso, I think I will take the plunge and see if it doesn't drive me crazy. Billings does make limited market kits such as the St. Roch and Callipso, which is great. Just gird your loins and be prepared for some brain work and scratch building.
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Hello Les calling back. Thank you very much for the info. I would never have guessed by the instructions that this would be the correct way to rig this boat. Now I can get on with the finals. Thanx Les.
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Hi Les calling back. I am new to this and am not up to the lingo of ships. On my St. Roch it has fore and aft masts. On the very top of both masts it has a beam athwart ships, then 2 lines connecting them. a line runs from both to a connection on the roof where I assume it would connect to a radio. Are these the lines that would be copper. Below this is another single line but has 2 parrel beads separating the lines. There are lines running through blocks and tied off to the railing and signal flags attached to them. Would copper antenna lines stay bright copper or would they age to black quickly? Sorry for the long winded message. Thanx
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Les here, thanks for the help. I have built plastic for 55 years and am now jumping into wooden ships.I can see how this could be an issue. I have checked my other kits and the rigging appears a little too large also. I am disappointed that Billings wouldn't point this out in their plans. This would go a long way to help people get the accuracy that is required for a good build. Once again thank you from the colonies in Canada. Cheers mate.
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My ship is the 1/72 scale Billings St. Roch. Standing rigging line appears close. It is like sewing thread, but the supplied running rigging is way too large. What would be correct for this build? Thanx Les.
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For a ship of 1/72 scale, what would be the correct diameter for the running and standing rigging. The supplied line is out of scale.
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Merhaba kutakara, nasilsiniz. bluenose2 here. I was in Turkery 3 years ago and hiked down from Taksim square to the hobby shop and purchased this boat. It is next on my build list. Good to see your photos, I will follow your build. The instructions are in Turkish, but I will have them translated. Iyi aksamlar good luck.
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hello dragzz. bluenose2 here. I am on the final leg of my build of this schooner. A good web site for reference photos is hazegray.org. It shows the correct colouring for the boat as the Billings is incorrect for this build. You will encounter some scratch building such as for the aft pulley covers for the rudder control chain work. Also Blue Jacket ship crafters supplied me with far more accurate davits, search light and turnbuckles. They also provide accessories for the wheel house if interested. I have some pictures of my build log under bluenose2 if your interested. Good luck!
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