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The paper plans  are 1:1 so yes I have been using them to pull measurements, But they don't show all the views I would like. They're on two sheets of paper printed on both sides - a good portion is waste by the parts list printed in English, French and German. Then another part is wasted with complete layout of each sail - as if you were going to cut them out and sew them yourself, except they're in the kit.  The top down deck view is pretty good for measurements, the side view is only the port side - no starboard view (which is not a mirror image of port)  There's a whole section 1:1 for the masts, spars etc.
 
The first picture of the capstan is a partial view of the top down deck plan view 1:1.

I probably should step back a moment and clarify my remarks about the instructions. First let me say that this kit is fantastic and right up to the standards I've come to expect from AL. The wood is excellent, the brass parts are excellent, well machined, etc, The sails, which I have not shown, are excellent, all sewn with a bolt rope around all edges, seams sewn into the sail in prototypical fashion. The model is very attractive. There is no shortage of wood, or brass or nails (I'm inundated with little nails), rope for the rigging, blocks, etc. In fact I will probably have some left-over stock to add to my stash.
 
The gripe I have is with these [what I will call] picture book instructions which show the step from a poor angle, with poor detail, and little to guide you other that a numbered balloon with a line point to a part. Even the parts lists does not accurately describe the dimensions of the part.  The least they could do is show 2 angles [view points] for some of the more complex assemblies, like the capstan as an example.
 
I would recommend the kit to anyone but just be aware that you may have to wing it with some of the assembly steps. Except for the frustration with the poor pictures I am enjoying this build a great deal.

Don't think it is a ship's bell, Ken. The hole goes all the way thru and it appears to be shaped like a capstan the one side is flush the other side has a cone shaped recess. Some close up pictures. It measures 5 mm long by 4 to 5 mm in diameter.
 

 
 
Forgot to add a close up of the chain roller in the bow (another fun sub-project) - there was no information on how big or small to make the cut out in the bow wall. Had to dry assemble the piece and get measurements off it then transfer to bow, drill a series of small holes to form a rectangle, cut out with small saw (#11 saw blade), then file, file, file, file until it all fit.
 

 
Some touch up of the paint job will be necessary.

Another update:  First challenge was interpreting the pictorial instructions
 
The very clear instructions for the capstan:

 
Then sorting out the parts and assembling them.  The parts list called for a 1 mm diameter brass wire 150 mm in length to be used as the hand crank - searching thru the kit all the brass wire was 100.xx mm in length, none was 150 mm. The two end pulley drums each had a nipple on one end - okay one fit into the gear but the large center drum did not have any holes drilled into it , hmmmmm????
 
After some fiddling we finally got it together.  Don't like the bends in the crank handle but it had to be bent installed because it would never snake its way thru the assembled pieces pre-bent. Must get myself a better set of bending pliers.
 
Parts laid out for identification - note the small pulley in the upper right corner between the gear and the brass wire, never could identify it - the hole bored thru it was too small for the wire specified and I could not located it in the step 17 photo.
 

 

 
Turning the bowsprit was interesting. Some time ago one of my woodcarving club members gave me a old Dremel lathe (free - he'd gotten it free also) so I decided to try tapering the bowsprit on the Dremel. WRONG !  First the bed barely took the length of the dowel I had cut for the bowsprit and then as soon as I applied the least pressure with a sanding stick the Dremel stopped turning the dowel. So we went to Plan B, which was get out the Lee Valley Veritas low angle miniature hand plane and slowly plane the dowel into a taper.  Worked fine ! Slow ! But fine !
 
Bow on shot of the current status.
 

 
Back to the "picture book" for the next step in the construction Stay tuned !

Crackers, many years ago I had the opportunity to attend a employer sponsored week-long  R&R type seminar. One of the many speakers was the Chairman of the Copyright and Patent Law department at Columbia University Law College. His talk was on Copyright and Patent law.  He started his talk by giving us the legal definition of Copyright; then to help us understand it better he gave an example. The example was this:
 
"You're a teenager at summer camp,. You go to the camp store, buy a postcard and stamp; on one side you place the stamp and your parent's address, on the other side you write 'Hi Mom and Dad, having a great time at summer camp. Food is great. Love Joey" and you mail the card to your parents."
 
He then explained that what had been written on the postcard was Copyright because it met the definition.  To further illustrate he gave a second example
 
"You go on vacation with your family to one of the National Parks and while there take lots of photographs. When you come home, you take your film (this was pre-digital photography) to the drug store to be developed and printed"   Your printed photographs are now Copyright.
 
He further explained that the circle-C symbol or the word Copyright does not have to be emblazoned on the work - all tho it enhances the protection. The protection exists from the moment you place the work into a media and publish it. And the work does not have to be registered with the US Copyright office - altho that is the best protection - to be Copyright.
 
By his explanation, every photograph, every note to Mom & Dad, every finger painting your kids ever did - all are immediately protected by Copyright.
 
Now I've given a very simplistic example of Copyright but be wary - someone somewhere owns the Copyright - even our own build logs and photos of our models are protected by Copyright - ever notice that Dirk (Dubz) explicitly stamps his photographs with "Copyright Dubz 201x"
 
Now there is the Fair Use Act under Copyright law but that I will leave that to the members to research for themselves.

Shiloh, see this link on length of Copyright Protection

Shiloh, see this link on length of Copyright Protection

That applies very heavily to Trademarks and company logos are generally Trademarks which is a different protection under Copyright. And yes they must be vigorously defended. Famous case is Refrigerator - lost it Trademark protection. That's why Xerox keeps publishing ads telling people not to say I'm going to xerox something but rather say make a Xerox copy or photocopy something.
 
I'm not sure if mere Copyright is that vigorous but I'm way out of my league on that nuance.

Dan, get a copy of the Fair Use Act and wave it under their nose and tell them it falls under that.

The key test under Fair Use seems to be 1.) is it a reasonable number of copies requested, 2.) is it for your own use in research, or critiquing an article or work of art, making a model, 3.) are you the purchaser of the copyright piece (e.g., book).
 
But as Jim Lad points out this is an international forum and international copyright law may differ from US Copyright law - so be careful and when it doubt get legal advice from a Copyright lawyer.

That applies very heavily to Trademarks and company logos are generally Trademarks which is a different protection under Copyright. And yes they must be vigorously defended. Famous case is Refrigerator - lost it Trademark protection. That's why Xerox keeps publishing ads telling people not to say I'm going to xerox something but rather say make a Xerox copy or photocopy something.
 
I'm not sure if mere Copyright is that vigorous but I'm way out of my league on that nuance.

Peter, simple answer is it falls under Fair Use Act - Do a Google search on Fair Use Act Copyright Law - it's complicated but you are allowed to make copies for your own use to critique a book, or do research, etc.
 
Example closer to home - you buy a set of ships plans that you intend to use to build a model. You take the original plans and make two copies. You place the original in protective package, you take 1st copy and glue it to build board, you take 2nd copy and cut-out various parts to use as templates. That's permitted under Fair Use. It's for your personal use (note emphasis).
 
BTW I am NOT a lawyer this is a layman's understanding - As an amateur photographer who did publish my photos I did study the topic.
 
On other note I'm talking about United States Copyright Law - other countries are signatories to International Copyright Law and I don't know how it applies outside the United States.
 
For more information on the US Fair Use Act under Copyright Law see this Columbia University link

Dan, get a copy of the Fair Use Act and wave it under their nose and tell them it falls under that.

The key test under Fair Use seems to be 1.) is it a reasonable number of copies requested, 2.) is it for your own use in research, or critiquing an article or work of art, making a model, 3.) are you the purchaser of the copyright piece (e.g., book).
 
But as Jim Lad points out this is an international forum and international copyright law may differ from US Copyright law - so be careful and when it doubt get legal advice from a Copyright lawyer.

Crackers, many years ago I had the opportunity to attend a employer sponsored week-long  R&R type seminar. One of the many speakers was the Chairman of the Copyright and Patent Law department at Columbia University Law College. His talk was on Copyright and Patent law.  He started his talk by giving us the legal definition of Copyright; then to help us understand it better he gave an example. The example was this:
 
"You're a teenager at summer camp,. You go to the camp store, buy a postcard and stamp; on one side you place the stamp and your parent's address, on the other side you write 'Hi Mom and Dad, having a great time at summer camp. Food is great. Love Joey" and you mail the card to your parents."
 
He then explained that what had been written on the postcard was Copyright because it met the definition.  To further illustrate he gave a second example
 
"You go on vacation with your family to one of the National Parks and while there take lots of photographs. When you come home, you take your film (this was pre-digital photography) to the drug store to be developed and printed"   Your printed photographs are now Copyright.
 
He further explained that the circle-C symbol or the word Copyright does not have to be emblazoned on the work - all tho it enhances the protection. The protection exists from the moment you place the work into a media and publish it. And the work does not have to be registered with the US Copyright office - altho that is the best protection - to be Copyright.
 
By his explanation, every photograph, every note to Mom & Dad, every finger painting your kids ever did - all are immediately protected by Copyright.
 
Now I've given a very simplistic example of Copyright but be wary - someone somewhere owns the Copyright - even our own build logs and photos of our models are protected by Copyright - ever notice that Dirk (Dubz) explicitly stamps his photographs with "Copyright Dubz 201x"
 
Now there is the Fair Use Act under Copyright law but that I will leave that to the members to research for themselves.

Peter, simple answer is it falls under Fair Use Act - Do a Google search on Fair Use Act Copyright Law - it's complicated but you are allowed to make copies for your own use to critique a book, or do research, etc.
 
Example closer to home - you buy a set of ships plans that you intend to use to build a model. You take the original plans and make two copies. You place the original in protective package, you take 1st copy and glue it to build board, you take 2nd copy and cut-out various parts to use as templates. That's permitted under Fair Use. It's for your personal use (note emphasis).
 
BTW I am NOT a lawyer this is a layman's understanding - As an amateur photographer who did publish my photos I did study the topic.
 
On other note I'm talking about United States Copyright Law - other countries are signatories to International Copyright Law and I don't know how it applies outside the United States.
 
For more information on the US Fair Use Act under Copyright Law see this Columbia University link

Crackers, many years ago I had the opportunity to attend a employer sponsored week-long  R&R type seminar. One of the many speakers was the Chairman of the Copyright and Patent Law department at Columbia University Law College. His talk was on Copyright and Patent law.  He started his talk by giving us the legal definition of Copyright; then to help us understand it better he gave an example. The example was this:
 
"You're a teenager at summer camp,. You go to the camp store, buy a postcard and stamp; on one side you place the stamp and your parent's address, on the other side you write 'Hi Mom and Dad, having a great time at summer camp. Food is great. Love Joey" and you mail the card to your parents."
 
He then explained that what had been written on the postcard was Copyright because it met the definition.  To further illustrate he gave a second example
 
"You go on vacation with your family to one of the National Parks and while there take lots of photographs. When you come home, you take your film (this was pre-digital photography) to the drug store to be developed and printed"   Your printed photographs are now Copyright.
 
He further explained that the circle-C symbol or the word Copyright does not have to be emblazoned on the work - all tho it enhances the protection. The protection exists from the moment you place the work into a media and publish it. And the work does not have to be registered with the US Copyright office - altho that is the best protection - to be Copyright.
 
By his explanation, every photograph, every note to Mom & Dad, every finger painting your kids ever did - all are immediately protected by Copyright.
 
Now I've given a very simplistic example of Copyright but be wary - someone somewhere owns the Copyright - even our own build logs and photos of our models are protected by Copyright - ever notice that Dirk (Dubz) explicitly stamps his photographs with "Copyright Dubz 201x"
 
Now there is the Fair Use Act under Copyright law but that I will leave that to the members to research for themselves.

That applies very heavily to Trademarks and company logos are generally Trademarks which is a different protection under Copyright. And yes they must be vigorously defended. Famous case is Refrigerator - lost it Trademark protection. That's why Xerox keeps publishing ads telling people not to say I'm going to xerox something but rather say make a Xerox copy or photocopy something.
 
I'm not sure if mere Copyright is that vigorous but I'm way out of my league on that nuance.

Peter, simple answer is it falls under Fair Use Act - Do a Google search on Fair Use Act Copyright Law - it's complicated but you are allowed to make copies for your own use to critique a book, or do research, etc.
 
Example closer to home - you buy a set of ships plans that you intend to use to build a model. You take the original plans and make two copies. You place the original in protective package, you take 1st copy and glue it to build board, you take 2nd copy and cut-out various parts to use as templates. That's permitted under Fair Use. It's for your personal use (note emphasis).
 
BTW I am NOT a lawyer this is a layman's understanding - As an amateur photographer who did publish my photos I did study the topic.
 
On other note I'm talking about United States Copyright Law - other countries are signatories to International Copyright Law and I don't know how it applies outside the United States.
 
For more information on the US Fair Use Act under Copyright Law see this Columbia University link

The discussion I saw was on the Amazing Photos Forum and in there Chuck did state that you could post a link to the site where the original photo exists.

My construction of the Well and Shot Locker differed somewhat from my previous attempt in the full model of Vulture.
 
This time I used the previously made lower deck beams as a reference, which resulted in a better fit all round.
 
First I temporarily fitted the corner posts, spot-gluing the beams above them into position on the deck clamps (no glue between posts and beams or floor). Next I cut and fitted the lower strakes of planking to stabilise the bottom ends of the posts, and also tempoarily glued braces under the beams to get the top ends square :
 

 

 
Then I removed the structure from the hull and completed the planking, removing the upper braces as they got in the way. The lids and hinges were added, and I gave the well a coat of Minwax Wipe-on Poly. Then I permanently mounted the assembly :
 

 

 

 
I left a large cut-out in the aft end of the well to show the pump tubes and mast step :
 

 

 

 
  Danny

The Old lady has got stomach pains, and her energy reduced by 20%, which causes need for continuous care. So She is in local old man care and health center from yesterday, where she has 24/7 care by nurses and doctors. Center is 600m from my house which makes things a bit easier. Hell week passed. It helps a lot She has positive attitude to that solution all Her life. Princes and My work starting suffer, and this was necessary solution 

After detail cleaning of house (cca 200m2), and after doing periodical cleaning service of home heating system, which can not be done with ill and old person in home, I found some time to continue with experimenting ... Everybody who lives in house sometimes faced with some "filling a big hole" issue, and applied different technique for it ... In my life I did it many times, on walls, furniture repairing etc etc, so I started with filling my "fake space between ribs" I have made earlier, with pieces of toothpick and BBQ nails, covered with white glue. Idea is, when this harden, to drill 3-5 mm hole through, and to put in and glue rounded molding of hard wood. On that way forces on connecting point will spread from soft wood on planks. Drawing and photos tomorrow, so tired now

That applies very heavily to Trademarks and company logos are generally Trademarks which is a different protection under Copyright. And yes they must be vigorously defended. Famous case is Refrigerator - lost it Trademark protection. That's why Xerox keeps publishing ads telling people not to say I'm going to xerox something but rather say make a Xerox copy or photocopy something.
 
I'm not sure if mere Copyright is that vigorous but I'm way out of my league on that nuance.

Dan, get a copy of the Fair Use Act and wave it under their nose and tell them it falls under that.

The key test under Fair Use seems to be 1.) is it a reasonable number of copies requested, 2.) is it for your own use in research, or critiquing an article or work of art, making a model, 3.) are you the purchaser of the copyright piece (e.g., book).
 
But as Jim Lad points out this is an international forum and international copyright law may differ from US Copyright law - so be careful and when it doubt get legal advice from a Copyright lawyer.

Peter, simple answer is it falls under Fair Use Act - Do a Google search on Fair Use Act Copyright Law - it's complicated but you are allowed to make copies for your own use to critique a book, or do research, etc.
 
Example closer to home - you buy a set of ships plans that you intend to use to build a model. You take the original plans and make two copies. You place the original in protective package, you take 1st copy and glue it to build board, you take 2nd copy and cut-out various parts to use as templates. That's permitted under Fair Use. It's for your personal use (note emphasis).
 
BTW I am NOT a lawyer this is a layman's understanding - As an amateur photographer who did publish my photos I did study the topic.
 
On other note I'm talking about United States Copyright Law - other countries are signatories to International Copyright Law and I don't know how it applies outside the United States.
 
For more information on the US Fair Use Act under Copyright Law see this Columbia University link

Crackers, many years ago I had the opportunity to attend a employer sponsored week-long  R&R type seminar. One of the many speakers was the Chairman of the Copyright and Patent Law department at Columbia University Law College. His talk was on Copyright and Patent law.  He started his talk by giving us the legal definition of Copyright; then to help us understand it better he gave an example. The example was this:
 
"You're a teenager at summer camp,. You go to the camp store, buy a postcard and stamp; on one side you place the stamp and your parent's address, on the other side you write 'Hi Mom and Dad, having a great time at summer camp. Food is great. Love Joey" and you mail the card to your parents."
 
He then explained that what had been written on the postcard was Copyright because it met the definition.  To further illustrate he gave a second example
 
"You go on vacation with your family to one of the National Parks and while there take lots of photographs. When you come home, you take your film (this was pre-digital photography) to the drug store to be developed and printed"   Your printed photographs are now Copyright.
 
He further explained that the circle-C symbol or the word Copyright does not have to be emblazoned on the work - all tho it enhances the protection. The protection exists from the moment you place the work into a media and publish it. And the work does not have to be registered with the US Copyright office - altho that is the best protection - to be Copyright.
 
By his explanation, every photograph, every note to Mom & Dad, every finger painting your kids ever did - all are immediately protected by Copyright.
 
Now I've given a very simplistic example of Copyright but be wary - someone somewhere owns the Copyright - even our own build logs and photos of our models are protected by Copyright - ever notice that Dirk (Dubz) explicitly stamps his photographs with "Copyright Dubz 201x"
 
Now there is the Fair Use Act under Copyright law but that I will leave that to the members to research for themselves.

Dan, get a copy of the Fair Use Act and wave it under their nose and tell them it falls under that.

The key test under Fair Use seems to be 1.) is it a reasonable number of copies requested, 2.) is it for your own use in research, or critiquing an article or work of art, making a model, 3.) are you the purchaser of the copyright piece (e.g., book).
 
But as Jim Lad points out this is an international forum and international copyright law may differ from US Copyright law - so be careful and when it doubt get legal advice from a Copyright lawyer.