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Steven,. I was just speculating using Occam's Razor  Something of those weights probably could be raised by hand.

Yes indeed

Thanks, Pat. My understanding is that they were beached stern-first, rather than bow, but the principle is the same - in fact it would make it easier to use the windlass to haul the vessel off the beach. But they were so light the stern could apparently be hauled well up onto the beach, which would help protect against changes in the sea direction. And of course the Mediterranean is all but tideless. There were apparently a lot of islands across the Mediterranean with adequate supplies of water and a good beach, and they would have been part of any good skipper's local knowledge. If they were too far away from the next one they could spend the night at sea, but preferred not to. Apart from anything else, it only took a very few days for the on-board water supply to run out.
 
If they were beached stern-first and the anchor was over the bow, the cable would have been stored in the bow rather than the stern. Which is how I've been thinking of all this. However, it seems that there would have been at least one anchor somewhere in the stern - when anchors are so light you can't have too many. The Serce Limani glass wreck had nine of them - six of which were stored one on top of each other in two piles somewhere near the bow. Apparently the ship was caught by a storm near the coast, they dropped the stern anchor to give them a chance to get the rest of the anchors and make sure of her - but the anchor itself snapped before they could, and she was driven ashore. I haven't made that many anchors - only 5 - two catted and fished (one each side) and the rest stored in the bow (even though I should probably put at least one at the stern). 
 
Anyway, perhaps I'll have one anchor cable connected to the windlass and the other just vanishing under the forecastle.

Template is a result of my CAD work as are (and will be) all other parts of the ship. CAD is realy useful for this, because you can solve all inconsistencies in blueprints and generate templates that fits together nicely.

Looks very good @MESSIS. I like the way you tied up the oars better than the way showed in the picture of the real replica, where the thrust of the oars is transmitted to the ship via the ropes. In your way, the oars push directly on the stanchions during the active part of their stroke (but perhaps there might be an issue of deterioration of the area of contact?). Very good job in carving fifty identical oars.
Dan.

@Danstream Dan, believe it or not, you just made my day! I was dissapointed with my oar's work.  I though they were not good enough reproduced... I thought that was the black ship of this project. But you just made me think better.
 
Thank you for your nice words, I did looked the model again and .... at least you are most persuasive!
 
Vielen dank
Christos
 
Ps. For the arrangement of the oars though I had found evidence on vessels showing this , I mostly did so, because as an engineer this is the correct  thinking (as you  just mentioned above)
 
 

Well it's pretty much accepted that they put in to land every evening if possible - if only to replenish their water supplies (which they used up rather fast - rowing will do that to you).
 
But I have an anchor on each side of the bow - I doubt that both cables would be attached to the windlass. Perhaps if I do it with one cable and have the other one coiled up ready to attach when needed? (In fact I'd probably have it run under the forecastle and pretend there was a coiled up cable there). 
 
Which would mean I wouldn't need a hole in the deck leading belowdecks?
 
Maybe I never needed the windlass at all, but I'm committed now . . .

A picture making things better...
 

Oh, wow!

Another masterpiece in the making, Greg. 

Apart from the awning over the poop deck and the steering oars, everything's pretty much done except for the fiddly stuff.
 
    
 
Mark, the anchors ranged from 47 to 67 kg (103 - 147 pounds). Probably two or three people could haul one up without a windlass, but this isn't something I'm qualified to comment on. Any ideas on whether this is too heavy to be hauled up by hand and would have needed a windlass instead?
 
But yes, it could certainly be used to raise and lower the masts as well.   

Apart from the awning over the poop deck and the steering oars, everything's pretty much done except for the fiddly stuff.
 
    
 
Mark, the anchors ranged from 47 to 67 kg (103 - 147 pounds). Probably two or three people could haul one up without a windlass, but this isn't something I'm qualified to comment on. Any ideas on whether this is too heavy to be hauled up by hand and would have needed a windlass instead?
 
But yes, it could certainly be used to raise and lower the masts as well.   

I'm working on putting the anchors in place. Here's a test placement (disregard the way I've tied the rope that fishes the anchor - it's just to keep it in place for the time being).
 

 
I'm not sure what I need to do with the anchors and windlass - are the anchor cables supposed to be attached to the windlass when the ship is sailing, or is that only for when she's raising the anchors? And if the cable isn't attached to the windlass when under way, what should it be attached to? Should it be tied to (say) the peribolos (pseudo-cathead) and then coiled on the deck? Or what?
 
I suspect this isn't the way anchors were dealt with in later ships and that may introduce uncertainty, but any advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

That's looking very good, Christos. I do know how you feel making all those oars . . . 

Another masterpiece in the making, Greg. 

Apart from the awning over the poop deck and the steering oars, everything's pretty much done except for the fiddly stuff.
 
    
 
Mark, the anchors ranged from 47 to 67 kg (103 - 147 pounds). Probably two or three people could haul one up without a windlass, but this isn't something I'm qualified to comment on. Any ideas on whether this is too heavy to be hauled up by hand and would have needed a windlass instead?
 
But yes, it could certainly be used to raise and lower the masts as well.   

Er, yes. I really don't think I'll try that at this stage of the build.
 

Another masterpiece in the making, Greg. 

Apart from the awning over the poop deck and the steering oars, everything's pretty much done except for the fiddly stuff.
 
    
 
Mark, the anchors ranged from 47 to 67 kg (103 - 147 pounds). Probably two or three people could haul one up without a windlass, but this isn't something I'm qualified to comment on. Any ideas on whether this is too heavy to be hauled up by hand and would have needed a windlass instead?
 
But yes, it could certainly be used to raise and lower the masts as well.   

I'm working on putting the anchors in place. Here's a test placement (disregard the way I've tied the rope that fishes the anchor - it's just to keep it in place for the time being).
 

 
I'm not sure what I need to do with the anchors and windlass - are the anchor cables supposed to be attached to the windlass when the ship is sailing, or is that only for when she's raising the anchors? And if the cable isn't attached to the windlass when under way, what should it be attached to? Should it be tied to (say) the peribolos (pseudo-cathead) and then coiled on the deck? Or what?
 
I suspect this isn't the way anchors were dealt with in later ships and that may introduce uncertainty, but any advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Er, yes. I really don't think I'll try that at this stage of the build.
 

Contemporary representations sometimes show the stay fixed to the bowsprit,
 
    
sometimes to the hull
 
 
  
    
 
 
- and sometimes it's hard to tell.
 

 
The Bodleian Marco Polo picture shows the stay running to the hull and the bowsprit used for braces running forward from the yardarms.

 
A lot of representations show the fixing point at the base of the bowsprit - perhaps fixed to the stempost? The Marco Polo picture certainly suggests that.
 

 

Apart from the awning over the poop deck and the steering oars, everything's pretty much done except for the fiddly stuff.
 
    
 
Mark, the anchors ranged from 47 to 67 kg (103 - 147 pounds). Probably two or three people could haul one up without a windlass, but this isn't something I'm qualified to comment on. Any ideas on whether this is too heavy to be hauled up by hand and would have needed a windlass instead?
 
But yes, it could certainly be used to raise and lower the masts as well.   

And of course they had 50 crewmen that could heave on an anchor cable.

Apart from the awning over the poop deck and the steering oars, everything's pretty much done except for the fiddly stuff.
 
    
 
Mark, the anchors ranged from 47 to 67 kg (103 - 147 pounds). Probably two or three people could haul one up without a windlass, but this isn't something I'm qualified to comment on. Any ideas on whether this is too heavy to be hauled up by hand and would have needed a windlass instead?
 
But yes, it could certainly be used to raise and lower the masts as well.