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dafi got a reaction from hexnut in HMS Victory by dafi - Heller - PLASTIC - To Victory and beyond ...
Thank you for the great discussion, quite sure we will follow this still for quite a while, it might stay intriguing 🙂
So to not loose the fine nuances for colors as a contrast some black and white thinking.
To spread some light into why the port holes were planked over 🙂
Next thing first planking trials.
Still quite topsy-turvy but one can see the direction 🙂
XXXDAn
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dafi got a reaction from Beef Wellington in HMS Victory by dafi - Heller - PLASTIC - To Victory and beyond ...
Despite all this X-Mess-stress I found a small space for some advent tinkering 🙂
Started as usual in the smaller scale ...
... and then scratched the fitting Brodi-Stove for it by some scrap materials.
Then some trials ...
...for the BBQ-skewer holder and some brass nibbling ...
... bent ...
... and the skewer itself by filing a round brass into a pointed square section.
Some trials in soldering but finally it fitted :-).
The exhaust air propelled skewer drive was easy ...
... but fitting a 1 mm hole for the external axle bearing into a 1 mm brass profile needed the magical trick of flattening the material before drilling :-).
Then some handles and the handrail around and soon some paint could be applied.
I think I will go for a nice eloquent black 😉
Always remember: no food - no fight 🙂
XXXDAn
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dafi reacted to giampieroricci in L'Amarante 1749 by giampieroricci - FINISHED - 1:30 - French Corvette
another decoration::
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dafi reacted to giampieroricci in L'Amarante 1749 by giampieroricci - FINISHED - 1:30 - French Corvette
Thank you, friends!
I fixed the first decorations:
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dafi reacted to giampieroricci in L'Amarante 1749 by giampieroricci - FINISHED - 1:30 - French Corvette
other small bottle decoration:
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dafi got a reaction from William-Victory in HMS Victory by dafi - Heller - PLASTIC - To Victory and beyond ...
Thank you for the great discussion, quite sure we will follow this still for quite a while, it might stay intriguing 🙂
So to not loose the fine nuances for colors as a contrast some black and white thinking.
To spread some light into why the port holes were planked over 🙂
Next thing first planking trials.
Still quite topsy-turvy but one can see the direction 🙂
XXXDAn
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dafi reacted to amateur in HMS Victory by dafi - Heller - PLASTIC - To Victory and beyond ...
Digital painting. Ideal when science discovers that it was actually red and yellow in stead of black and white.
Why thoses small pieces above and under the upper gunports?
Jan
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dafi reacted to jeff watts in HMS Victory by dafi - Heller - PLASTIC - To Victory and beyond ...
while earth colour will retain their stability for longer the binders (linseed oil etc) which make the paint liquid and subsequently'dry out ' will crack and deteriorate to a point where the appearance is almost powdery and bleached , where there are layers of paint over time being of the same colour through their depths can be explained by the fact that in practice the re painting of a surface would only be done when needed , and so the fading would be right through the layers in a similar way , just my theory , and obviously theres no way of proving it one way or another
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dafi reacted to Morgan in HMS Victory by dafi - Heller - PLASTIC - To Victory and beyond ...
Only it’s the Royal Navy so the rules are if it moves salute it, if it doesn’t move paint it! Nelson was of the view that flagships should be painted 4 times per year (others 3 times per year) - the point being they were in a constant state of painting, so I’m not sure how much an oil based surface layer could degrade in that time. I’m no expert but I would have thought the issue is more removing dirt than covering degraded paint.
Gary
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dafi reacted to jeff watts in HMS Victory by dafi - Heller - PLASTIC - To Victory and beyond ...
very true sir , about painting everything , i didnt realise they would paint that often , puzzling , my only concern now is that ive already bought the ochre colour for my build lol
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dafi got a reaction from hexnut in HMS Victory by dafi - Heller - PLASTIC - To Victory and beyond ...
Just patches, to be omitted in the final version 🙂
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dafi got a reaction from popeye the sailor in HMS Victory by dafi - Heller - PLASTIC - To Victory and beyond ...
Thank you for the great discussion, quite sure we will follow this still for quite a while, it might stay intriguing 🙂
So to not loose the fine nuances for colors as a contrast some black and white thinking.
To spread some light into why the port holes were planked over 🙂
Next thing first planking trials.
Still quite topsy-turvy but one can see the direction 🙂
XXXDAn
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dafi got a reaction from popeye the sailor in HMS Victory by dafi - Heller - PLASTIC - To Victory and beyond ...
Just patches, to be omitted in the final version 🙂
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dafi got a reaction from mtaylor in HMS Victory by dafi - Heller - PLASTIC - To Victory and beyond ...
Just patches, to be omitted in the final version 🙂
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dafi got a reaction from Beef Wellington in HMS Victory by dafi - Heller - PLASTIC - To Victory and beyond ...
Thank you for the great discussion, quite sure we will follow this still for quite a while, it might stay intriguing 🙂
So to not loose the fine nuances for colors as a contrast some black and white thinking.
To spread some light into why the port holes were planked over 🙂
Next thing first planking trials.
Still quite topsy-turvy but one can see the direction 🙂
XXXDAn
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dafi got a reaction from CaptainSteve in HMS Victory by dafi - Heller - PLASTIC - To Victory and beyond ...
Thank you for the great discussion, quite sure we will follow this still for quite a while, it might stay intriguing 🙂
So to not loose the fine nuances for colors as a contrast some black and white thinking.
To spread some light into why the port holes were planked over 🙂
Next thing first planking trials.
Still quite topsy-turvy but one can see the direction 🙂
XXXDAn
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dafi got a reaction from jeff watts in HMS Victory by dafi - Heller - PLASTIC - To Victory and beyond ...
Exactly my point. Thank you for the text that nicely shows my suspicion.
The two shades of blue can be seen on the 1765 model of the Vic http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/66473.html lighter in the upper deck, darker on the middle deck.
The only place mentioned as provenance of the paint is a capstan, and that is a inbord usage of the paint.
Most painters used the "usual" colors for the english ships. So does Turner, who saw the Vic before and after Trafalgar. As he is master of moods and colors my suspicion is that he would have not let the opportunity slip to use a more vivid color to point out this emotional ship.
Anyway I do believe with the quality standards of these days the ship should have looked much more like a patchwork, as each barrel of paint should have changed in tint 😉
XXXDAn
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dafi got a reaction from druxey in HMS Victory by dafi - Heller - PLASTIC - To Victory and beyond ...
Chemical interaction with the vehicle or other paints? It is more than 200years now.
But the most important question to me still is where is the provenance of the sample(s). And how this small sample gave reason to be applied to the whole outside of the ship?
Always open for new finings and input, as long as they are explained properly and seem logical to me. Good research is one thing, judging the results the other.
XXXDan
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dafi got a reaction from mtaylor in HMS Victory by dafi - Heller - PLASTIC - To Victory and beyond ...
Thank you for the great discussion, quite sure we will follow this still for quite a while, it might stay intriguing 🙂
So to not loose the fine nuances for colors as a contrast some black and white thinking.
To spread some light into why the port holes were planked over 🙂
Next thing first planking trials.
Still quite topsy-turvy but one can see the direction 🙂
XXXDAn
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dafi got a reaction from hexnut in HMS Victory by dafi - Heller - PLASTIC - To Victory and beyond ...
By the sources was she black until on the lower gundeck and the rest rosin until 1782 when the rosin parts were supposedly painted „Dull Yellow Ochre“, one of the standard color schemes of the period.
To add some confusion about the painting scheme, Turners drawings still give some hints that the spread of the colors was yet different ...
But that to a later point 🙂
XXXDAn
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dafi got a reaction from mtaylor in HMS Victory by dafi - Heller - PLASTIC - To Victory and beyond ...
Exactly my point. Thank you for the text that nicely shows my suspicion.
The two shades of blue can be seen on the 1765 model of the Vic http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/66473.html lighter in the upper deck, darker on the middle deck.
The only place mentioned as provenance of the paint is a capstan, and that is a inbord usage of the paint.
Most painters used the "usual" colors for the english ships. So does Turner, who saw the Vic before and after Trafalgar. As he is master of moods and colors my suspicion is that he would have not let the opportunity slip to use a more vivid color to point out this emotional ship.
Anyway I do believe with the quality standards of these days the ship should have looked much more like a patchwork, as each barrel of paint should have changed in tint 😉
XXXDAn
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dafi got a reaction from mtaylor in HMS Victory by dafi - Heller - PLASTIC - To Victory and beyond ...
By the sources was she black until on the lower gundeck and the rest rosin until 1782 when the rosin parts were supposedly painted „Dull Yellow Ochre“, one of the standard color schemes of the period.
To add some confusion about the painting scheme, Turners drawings still give some hints that the spread of the colors was yet different ...
But that to a later point 🙂
XXXDAn
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dafi got a reaction from Old Collingwood in HMS Victory by dafi - Heller - PLASTIC - To Victory and beyond ...
By the sources was she black until on the lower gundeck and the rest rosin until 1782 when the rosin parts were supposedly painted „Dull Yellow Ochre“, one of the standard color schemes of the period.
To add some confusion about the painting scheme, Turners drawings still give some hints that the spread of the colors was yet different ...
But that to a later point 🙂
XXXDAn
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dafi got a reaction from popeye the sailor in HMS Victory by dafi - Heller - PLASTIC - To Victory and beyond ...
Exactly my point. Thank you for the text that nicely shows my suspicion.
The two shades of blue can be seen on the 1765 model of the Vic http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/66473.html lighter in the upper deck, darker on the middle deck.
The only place mentioned as provenance of the paint is a capstan, and that is a inbord usage of the paint.
Most painters used the "usual" colors for the english ships. So does Turner, who saw the Vic before and after Trafalgar. As he is master of moods and colors my suspicion is that he would have not let the opportunity slip to use a more vivid color to point out this emotional ship.
Anyway I do believe with the quality standards of these days the ship should have looked much more like a patchwork, as each barrel of paint should have changed in tint 😉
XXXDAn
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dafi got a reaction from jeff watts in HMS Victory by dafi - Heller - PLASTIC - To Victory and beyond ...
Chemical interaction with the vehicle or other paints? It is more than 200years now.
But the most important question to me still is where is the provenance of the sample(s). And how this small sample gave reason to be applied to the whole outside of the ship?
Always open for new finings and input, as long as they are explained properly and seem logical to me. Good research is one thing, judging the results the other.
XXXDan
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