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The schooner brings several advantages to the group: unlike square-rigged merchant ships, it can sail close to the wind and, especially during longer missions, can also serve as a kind of mother ship. For example, it can tow boats to conserve the rowers' energy, transport large supplies, etc. And from the tops of the masts, one can identify a target earlier. However, some types of rowboats also have the ability to set sail. However, they would likely be inferior to the schooner in rough seas.
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It was common practice to use boats to attack ships in harbors, even on the high seas when there was no wind. This was particularly successful at night because of the surprise. If the loss of human life was not an issue, things could get bloodier during the day. The latter is exemplified by the boat attack in 1814 by the frigate HMS Endymion on the privateer Prince de Neufchatel.
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Below a information about Rigols from the book Navy Board Ship Models 1650-1750 by John Franklin. I've had the book for so long that I've not thought about it anymore. Quote from the book: From about 1675, port rigols are fairly frequently seen on models. The two Rigol drawings in the book are of the type shown in post 8. And indeed, a few pages further on there is a photo showing Rigols at the model of the third rate Hampton Court of 1678. -
The described action shows parallels to the Danish-British Gunboat War of 1808–1814, in which groups of gunboats attacked English sailing ships such as gunbrigs (HMS Turbulent for example) and forced them to surrender several times.
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I agree with that, of course. The earliest models I have found equipped with Rigols are these three First Rates linked above. I don't know of any others before that time at the moment. I haven't found any other models equipped like that before that. That's my own interim assessment after just a short search. I think only the discovery of a corresponding instruction from the Admiralty or perhaps one of the royal shipyards regarding the appropriate equipment with Rigols could provide accurate data.
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Here is a small excerpt from my first link, a first rate from 1725. The upper gun deck understandably has no rigols. The middle gun deck has some, except for places where water cannot flow down. The lower gun deck interestingly has differently shaped rigols than the middle gun deck. The models of ships of the line HMS Sussex and Boyne, both 80 gun ships from the 1690s, have no rigols at all. Edit: I suspect that around 1700 there was an order from the Admiralty to introduce Rigols.
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I offer you the 1720s. British first rate Edit: or a little earlier this one Edit: it can still be done a little earlier as this one shows
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If you have a deeper interest in the Battle of the Nile I can recommend the following book. There are certainly many books about naval battles, and a lot has been written about the Battle of the Nile. For me, the best book about the Battle of the Nile is: Nelson and the Nile: The Naval War Against Bonaparte 1798 by Brian Lavery. This tells the story before, during and, often neglected, after the battle in great detail. In particular, the description of how the ships, some of which were badly damaged, were repaired on site after the battle.
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Neverland Hobby - is this a legit model manufacturer?
Chapman replied to bruce d's topic in Plastic model kits
In addition to the shop in Brussels, there is also a Chinese manufacturer called Neverland Hobby https://www.scalemates.com/de/kits/neverland-hobby-8001-das-u-boot--1510553 -
Hi Marc & Marcus thanks for mentioning this book which I didn't know about. I was able to order it from Geymüller Verlag on account. Edit: The book arrived today. I think the book will help to better understand what you can see in terms of decoration in the v.d.Velde drawings of the early ships of Louis XIV. And even better, as they are better documented, are the Berain drawings of the decoration. They are reproduced in the book really clearly and true to scale in 1:75. Joerg
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source: http://marinehist.dk/MHT/1980-3-MHT.pdf I just looked at my records on the Elben/Elbe. I wasn't sure if the 1833 cannon system consistently produced all calibers only as cannons. From what I found, see above, the short 12 pounder must have been a carronade. When the ship was taken over by the Schleswig-Holstein personnel in Altona, 8 "12-pounder ball cannons" were found stored there. This probably refers to the carronades of the 1833 system.
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It's been a few years since I researched the Elbe/Elbe. I haven't come to a final conclusion about the cannons either. Another possibility besides cannons might be 12 punds lug mounted carronades, system 1833. There are surviving examples of these.
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Great work! The Elben is a nice choice for a model. This ship from my hometown (Altona is now a district of Hamburg) also belonged to the (German) Schleswig-Holstein Navy between 1848-1851, which makes the schooner really interesting for me.
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Hull colour.
Chapman replied to serpe's topic in Building, Framing, Planking and plating a ships hull and deck
I don't know of a mixing formula for Brown Stuff. However, I followed the color scheme of an oil painting by John Cleveley, which shows the HMS Granado with this underwater color . -
Parts 26 & 27 form a belaying point. Slide part 27 from below over 26
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From the first post it is already clear that in addition to the Continental and States Navies and private privateers up to 1783, ships of the first US Navy are also of interest. The Halifax, however, belonged to the Royal Navy.
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Some more, but possibly not all, missing model kits. Alfred 1775 of the Continental Navy Gunboat Philadelphia Frigate Essex 1799 Brigg Syren 1803 and from the War of 1812 on the Lakes the Briggs Eagle and Niagara.
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I love it! I know at least one book about this daring action. The Dutch in the Medway by P.G. Rogers
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I like the model, I'm looking forward to seeing your rigging come to life. A small scale Prince but well implemented by Airfix, especially when you consider the year of manufacture, 1966, when plastic model making was still in its infancy. And I was just one year old.👶
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This yacht as we see it here on the plan is originally a reconstruction by Hoeckel of the Electorate of Brandenburg Staten Yacht, the Large (Große) or Golden (Goldene) Yacht, from 1678/79. So the Yacht has a name, but with modified decoration it can certainly also serve other states with different names.
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There don't seem to be any plans included?
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See the second Van de Velde Reine drawing in the post above. Or here as a full view. They are also visible on some other Velde drawings of French-built ships from the period, but not present on all drawings, such as the stern view of the Reine, or some other ships. Not all drawings of a ship always show all the details. But I am sure that the round openings for the hand weapons were present in the 1670s on the Reine and "presumably" also on the Soleil Royal.
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Hi Eric! From what I have read, this is supposed to be a Soleil Royal in the 1670s based on van de Velde's drawings of the Reine. That is not an easy task. I am sure you will be happy with yourself once the work is finished. One thing that caught my eye about your model. Perhaps it will help if I point out Hubac's Dutch construction of the upper gundeck inner and outer bulwark construction of the Reine and perhaps Soleil Royal in her early years. Hubac´s Bulwark construction looks here very similar to the one found on the Zeven Provincien. Please compare van de Velde's drawings of the Zeven Provincien 1665 with the various from the Reine. And the Reconstrction from Otto Bloms Zeven Provincien 1665.
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Marc, this is really great craftsmanship. Hard to believe it's plastic. 5 stars!
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