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  1. Chapman
    Yes, this very early trunnion carronade is most remarkable on a wreck from 1810. I would not have thought that this type of Carronade was still actively used on a frigate around 1810. Is it possible to add a photo from behind? Thank you for sharing.👍
  2. Chapman
    Fantastic work in plastic 👍 and another step to the next deck.
  3. Chapman
    The Arbeitskreis Historischer Schiffbau published a two-part article about the French trois-ponts in the 17th century in his journal Das Logbuch in 1996. Author: Johann Gröbner. In part 2 the Rochfort RL original body plan is printed.
  4. Chapman
    Yes I can see 2 guns and with a lot of good will or a drink maybe 3 on the forecastle. And also guns on the poop. What I cannot say in conclusion is that it is RL or Monarque. But I tend more to RL. What is striking about the port drawing is the low freeboard of the ship, even though the ship is only slightly heeling. This drawing also shows a pronounced tumble home. Similar to that of the Royal Louis from 1692 on the original plans from the Rochefort archive, which were made in 1697 for a repair. This adaptation of the body plan seems to me to be more exemplary for the RL or Monarque from 1668/70, after adjustment, than the well-known strange body plan from the work of Admiral Paris. Unfortunately, I cannot show the plan here either for copyright reasons. But I can give you a source if you are interested.
  5. Chapman
    Hello Marc I don't have permission to publish the picture. But you can look at the picture here and also request a better scan. Albertina Museum Wien Edit: If this link no longer works, then this permanent link will definitely be the one Link
  6. Chapman
    I mean the drawing on my copy shows 2 small Chase guns and the corresponding round ports in the bulkhead on the forecastle.
  7. Chapman
    Hello Marc, unfortunately I don't have a better version. The text remains illegible. If the name of the ship was noted and legible, the secret would surely be solved. French ships from this period are definitely a headache. In 1673 weren't many french Ponant ships with 14 + 1 ports in the lower tier. The great drawings of the ship with the elegant flat appearance, identified as Superbe or Orgilleux, could all show the same ship. And this mysterious two-decker the sister ship or what else ? The latter seems to suit the bulky appearance of the Calais first or second -rate ship.
  8. Chapman
    Source: NMM Here we have another unknown candidate. Could be Superbe or Orguilleux from 1672/73.
  9. Chapman
    It looks like V.d.V. Problems with perspective at the gun ports. In the front area of the lower battery, he had to correct the position of the piece gates. There is one gate too many. As I wrote it should be 14 gates and 1 hunting gate. Then the distribution also matches the upper gun deck. Source: NMM In my view, the exact total number of guns for identification is secondary. First of all, the number of gun ports cut into the hull is important It is easy to place guns on the upper decks. They can shoot over low parapets. And additional gun ports are also easier to install there. It's mostly a matter of top weight.
  10. Chapman
    Hello Marc, thank you for your answer. In my view, the argument against Reine is that the well-known V.d.V drawings. shown by you above, should have originated in 1673. And she shows 15 gun ports + 1 chase port on the lower deck. At the moment I think it could be the Superbe. It was one of a two ship class upgraded in 1673 to ship of the line with 3 gun decks There is a Van de Velde drawing that shows the bow of one of the two ships. the Superbe in 1672, after Solebay where she participated, could show that before her modification . I consider the simple figurehead, a lion, shown on the V.d.V drawing as a reference. The number of gun ports 14 +1 chase port and the overall appearance Likewise. Indeed both ships in the class were upgraded in this way. The Superbe, however, was after Solebay 1672 the first and could have been available for this event in 1673. Source: National Maritime Museum Source: Wikipedia/NMM
  11. Chapman
    Marc, great that you continue to show us your incredible work on the rear facade. I admire your perseverance and skill.👍 I hope it doesn't bother if I ask, at a competent point, which French Flagship of the line could be in Calais in 1673? The French ship seems to have brought Mary of Modena to this port city. Maybe a Ship from the Levant Fleet or Ponant, and which?
  12. Chapman
    Interesting addition!👍 Are the obusiers also mentioned in the monograph?
  13. Chapman
    Prost Neujahr/ Happy New Year! The question is good, but there seems to be little material for frigates. Boudriot's book "Ship of the line" has some information about the hammocks. What is not clear is how far this can be done for frigates. The 1781 drawing of the frigate Galathèe , by a contemporary French artist is from interest.. The best I could find on the subject, if you assume that the hammocks in frigates, unlike in Ship of the Line, are only accommodated on the gangways. Later french frigate models, from around 1800 onwards, showed additional hammocks on the quarterdeck and forecastle. See Flore
  14. Chapman
    Hi Mark, nice peace of work.👍 I would like to mention that it is more than an attached molding, it is a decorated Hekbalk / Wing Transom. An important construction component that is also listed with the dimensions in the Zerter*, the building regulations. * Source: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zerter I would place the Latin motto above the stern gunports. I saw that in a picture of the Dutch Zeven Provincien. It also seems less vulnerable to the sea there.
  15. Chapman
    Hello Marc! There is a new book published by Ancre on the French first and second rates. The Saint-Philippe and the first-rates under Louis XIII to Louis XIV Just right for Christmas. Unfortunately at the moment only in French Well then... , Joyeux noel!
  16. Chapman
    Am I late ? I have no data directly for French 12 and 6 pounders, but for 18 and 8 pounders. That certainly gives an impression as well The data are from Vol. 4 of The Ship of the Line by Boudriot. In a test trial under ideal conditions on land. The French 8-pounder has a theoretical range of 2500 meters by a elevation of 16-degree But the penetration force through oak with 1,5 KG charge is 0.27 m at 1000 meters and 0.90 m at 100 m. For the French 18 pounders with 3,0 KG charge, the data is 0.40 m at 1000 m and 1.10 m at 100 m. More than I expected. For comparison: The maximum hull thickness of a french 74 gun ship Ship of the period is about 0,8 m.
  17. Chapman
    That's a lot of well done work.
  18. Chapman
    Search Sherborn, the document has a new Object ID!
  19. Chapman
    Hi! The NMM Plan of the Cutter Pitt mentioned also the Flying Jib Boom. NMM plan Pitt So there was at least one more cutter with this equipment. There is another document about the proportion of blocks and ropes of the Sherbourne from the NMM available: J8465
  20. Chapman
    Hi Marc and Heinrich! This is the information, from the 2010 Plancatalog of the Service Historique, about the Le Soleil Royal plan of the stern facade, 1669 (from Floating Baroque as shown above). 226. Vaisseau le Soleil Royal. Non signé ni daté [vers 1669]. Ornements de la poupe. Encre noire. Dim. 0,38 x 0,60. D1 67, f ° 1 cl. 7367 Nek0 used this plan for his Soleil Royal. But since no date is indicated on the plan, I think that the reference 1669 of the Service Historiqe means the ship 1669-92 not the appearance of an exact date.
  21. Chapman
    My congratulations on the completion of the monograph. Wow, that's a really nice frigate.
  22. Chapman
    I would stay with the 6 pounder. Boudriot gives as standard armament for the Hermione 26 x 12 pounders 6 x 6 pounders The Concorde the first ship of the class (including Hermione) had according to a contemporary Danish plan of the ship 26 x 12 and 10 x 6 pounders. The plan mentioned the coopering of the Concorde 1779, so I guess the plan ist from 1779/80.
  23. Chapman
    Here are a few more information I wrote in a different context. Excuse me! For some reason, part of the post is not shown. he Standard 6-pounder also forms the secondary armament of the Hermione.
  24. Chapman
    Hello, that the Hermione had Obusiers on board is unknown to me, and actually only possible at the end of their service. The French obusier of 36 pounds, seen on the Ancre Plan, was developed in 1786 and used from 1787 on French ships. This Obusier was developed from the howitzer of the Gribeauval system. It is not a kind of carronade. A "real" French Carronade came in frigates from 1804 in use. Source: Boudriot / Ancre French Frigates Now the question arises what information was available to the draftsman of the Ancre Plan? On the occasion. The figurehead on the Ancre Plan is also questionable from my point of view. Even if the AL kit of the Hermione is in need of improvement for sure. So it is also very cheap and shows the essence of the ship. I think a model maker can make a lot of the model. With a second veneer planking is gained a lot.
  25. Chapman
    Sorry, I do not have digital files, only in books. Boudriot: French Frigates; Gardiner: The First Frigates etc. But the guys of Gamelabs sure have something.

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