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My edit button is down at the bottom of my posts below my signature. See picture below. The new layout can take a little getting used to and there was some delays on functions getting out as the update progressed. All the old things are there, they just may look different or be in new places. I think I have found them all, or at least everything that I use so ask if you can't find it.
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Truly is an awesome build Ken! I've found many of those extra bits of thread that didn't get cut off when reviewing the pictures. That magnification and focused view help spotting some of those easier.
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I think when they did the last update to the site it cleared the old likes off of all the threads. The fancy cup is the new like button. Took me a minute to figure that out too. Works just like the old button just a new symbol.
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Had a busy weekend but also got in some good hours in the shipyard and manged to finish up the second set of planking on the port side and start on the second set on the starboard. Moving along nicely.
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Welcome to MSW Michael! Great to have you with us. I wish you all the best of luck on your build and look forward to seeing more of your work!
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May have to put that color up for consideration as well! I can easily get a lot of grabber blue from my dad's Mustang shop. I'm hoping to have some test strips painted in the next few weeks, (admiral is now out of school and so my build times will be a little tighter again till her new job starts). That may not always be a bad thing though..... I am hoping to make it to the hobby store today or tomorrow and look to see what I can readily find. May have to order in some colors if they do not carry what I need. Then I have to find where I put the airbrush when I moved. I know where my compressor is at but I guess I have not yet unpacked the box the actual nozzle is in. How that happened I will never know... I hate moving... The planking has gotten a little further since the last picture. I might have that row done this weekend. You can be sure that I will upload a picture when it is done!
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Second planking is looking nice and smooth. You should not have too many problems till you get below the last wale. Until then the spacing remains even and straight across the hull. Below that lowest wale though is where you really have to start carefully measuring and tapering each plank to that they will all fit properly. Keep up the good work!
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It's actually surprising that no one has excavated down to the remains for samples to analyze. It would be very hit and miss as there is no guarantee what parts were buried but it is possible to find paint pigments to determine what colors were used if you happen to get a piece of wood that was painted and still has those pigments intact. Long shot at best and probably not going to happen due to the costs involved. Better hope is for some unknown painting or book of record to turn up with the information. While I have a few minutes, here is a quick update on the planking process. Slowly creeping forward, still a lot to do.
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That would look good. The contrast between the black and gilt would look very nice and that level of detail was not unheard of, case in point the paint details on Vasa.
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Martyn, Personally I prefer to leave the hulls the natural wood color even if they were painted white. I like natural wood colors and figure if I am going to take the time and money to use nice wood then I want it to be seen. Exceptions are made of course. If the hull is copper or if it is more of a modern ship with fiberglass or metal hulls. Ultimately it comes down to personal preference especially for home displays. On the blue color, of the things to consider is the fact that this is all taken from the individual artists and what they had to use. Much like the other issues of perspective that can distort the accuracy of layout of the ship, the color may easily off due to the colors the artist had available to use. It is known that blues are an expensive color and more so back then. Perhaps the ship was all done in ultra marine but the artists may have diluted his blue down to stretch it out further making a lighter blue instead. The crown may have had money to waste on extravagance but, the artist who is unfortunately our only source of color information, probably did not have that luxury. Unless we get lucky and some undiscovered treasure trove of records turns up that says Soleil Royal was painted in Ultra Marine Blue by order of the King, I think we are left to what looks good on us and what was known to be used in the time.
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Mike, I think that is a problem we all face. There are so many great ships out there and unfortunately only so much time to build them in. I am glad I got started in this hobby early so that while I know I can't build them all, I hope I can at least get to the ones on the top of my list! Marc, thanks for all of that information. I agree that the brighter light blue with the yellow ochre certainly has an appeal and, in my opinion, would be more in keeping with the flashy, extravagant wealth boasting of the time. The versailles grey reminds me too much of the haze grey that I saw plenty of during my time in the Navy and while it does great today, trying to hide the ship was not really what they were going for back then. I may be way off base but I would think that the brighter blue if not the full ultra marine would have been used just to show off how much money the crown could afford to spend. I will probably play around with a few colors and see what I like best. I also really like the idea of using the yellow ochre on the majority of the carvings and gilding just the specific sun king ones. Looks like a trip to the hobby store is on the to do list this weekend!
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Progress has slowed a little this week due to not feeling very good but, my brain keeps turning with things to do. One of those things is the color blue to be used on the upper planking. My plan is to pre-paint as much of the planking needed for this are prior to installing it on the ship so I only have to worry about touch ups later on. Fewer chances of getting paint where I do not want it to go that way. So I am in need of a blue to use and or suggestions of what I should be trying to achieve when mixing paints. My backup plan is to try to match the blue used on La Couronne as I like the look of it. From what I have seen in paintings of S.R. however, I have seen it both darker and lighter. Hoping one of you other French ship modelers may have come across an accepted shade of blue for French vessels of the era.
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Great start to the second planking. It is good to see some color going on the hull.
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Excellent job on the ship's boat Don! She came out very nice and looks great on board your Trabakul!
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Tom, Thanks for the nice words and good luck to you on your own build! As to the power supply, my lights work off of a 9volt battery. I bought a small push button switch to control them and I plan on mounting them in or on the display base. Exact method will be determined when I actually build the base. For now I have just made sure to leave myself plenty of extra wire out the bottom so I don't end up to short. Now to the update. I got the first row of planks and wales on the starboard side this week and today I worked on the beakhead bulkhead. Gun ports framed, bowsprit hole shaped and test fitted and the beakhead deck planked also. Now to start laying out the next run of wales and planks. Enjoy the pictures!
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Sjors, As long as I don't start another build I might be done in a month or 2 but, the odds of me not starting another project of some sort are very small... In fact I need to get to work on a book case for the Admiral and the display case for La Couronne in addition to finishing repairing a bench that sits on our porch. It has just been way to hot out side lately (over 100 F) so I have not been in the mood to work in the wood shop lately. Oh, and there is the cross section scratch build that I am in the planning stages of for La Couronne also. Hmm.... guess I better get off of here and get working on something!
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Welcome to MSW Syd and a welcome to your grandson as well! As a model railroader myself I am certain that you will find the same enjoyment here as you did with the trains. Having someone to share it with is better still! I look forward to seeing what you choose as your first project and wish you the best of luck as you start out.
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Welcome to MSW Daniel! We are glad that you have returned to the hobby and that you have joined us to share it with. Good luck to you on your new build, whatever you choose it to be!
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Welcome to MSW! Good to have you with us as an active member! I wish you the best of luck on your current and future builds. Start up a build log and share the journey with us. I look forward to seeing your work!
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More work on the first runs of planks and wales and one side is now complete! Making my way around the bow and getting ready to start the same run on the starboard side. As always, thanks for looking in!
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Very nice! I've rigged plastic sails on three models now. Both Conny builds and my Cutty Sark. I liked them on my Connys but not as much on the Sark. The Sark was such a small scale model that they look too crowded and the lack of details in the rigging had nothing to distract the view of the cheap plastic sails. The Conny builds however allowed for a complete rig and having them appear to be full of wind added a nice element to the build. As for the plastic look, well, they are plastic ships so it is what it is. To get the wind filled look with cloth, I would think that you would have to hide wire frame in the edges of the sails and possibly use a starch or similar stiffener to help hold a wind filled shape. I have not yet tried it myself on cloth. Maybe one day...
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Looking good! As to the mast issue, you may have to get the rough framing in place and then insert the mast and finish the framing and planking around it. Makes things harder but, it may be the best solution. If those rings are metal they might be able to be cut, spread open, placed around the mast and then closed again. Maybe not though also as that would be a significant spread that would have to take place to get them open enough to fit. I'm hoping someone else will come up with a suggestion but from what I can see, you may need to just plan on building with the mast in place.
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Rigging looks fantastic! She is coming together quickly now. I'm looking forward to seeing all her yards in place.
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Your metal work really is top notch Johan. That is something I need to work on myself and learn to do on my own builds as it adds some wonderful details to the build.
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Now that La Couronne is done I've returned to S.R. to begin the second planking. To start that I have located the two wales in between the lower and middle gun decks. Those were about the easiest to locate as I have the gun ports for reference. These will be my guides to base all the rest of the hull planking off of. And the work begins with the first sections going in place and continuing down the hull with planks below the first wale going in next and then the bottom wale for that section completing the run. I always enjoy seeing color going onto the hull. Makes me feel like I'm bringing her to life.
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