Gerhardvienna

Thanks for the kind words and positive comments,  and also for the LIKES.
 
The next equipment parts of the French corvette is a cover for spare masts and spare spars. The weatherproof cover is a canvas, which was painted with tar. This canvas is mounted on fork-shaped iron and been completed front and back by a board.
 
The following pictures speak for themselves and I hope you like them.

Source: La Créole in Musée de la Marine Paris
 
The image of Morel Fatio shows an example of an open storage of the reserve timber:

 
Likewise, an image of the model of La Belle Poule:

Source: Musée de la Marine Paris
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Continuation.
 
 
 

 
 

 
 
 
The beginning of the relation is available at this address:
 
 
http://5500.forumact...ndre-1-24#66516
 
 
 
Regards, Pawel

Thanks for the help and support.    
 
Part of the fun of this build is the research. I've learned that the French had a very different life aboard a frigate than their British or American counterparts.  Examples being the sleeping arrangements, the use of the Great Cabin as we know it was different.  
 
I'm very much suspecting that at the time of her capture, Licorne had been or was still being used as a testbed.  The French were pretty good about this.  Take a good design and then pick a ship of that design and tweak it.  Her masting shows that as her masting is the same dimensions of an 18 pdr built after she was captured .  The fact that she has more in common with Belle Poule than Renommee.  Looking at the "as built" versus the "as captured" I see a trending in what was done... no port lids, the change in planking and wales.  the change to the transom appears to be an intermediate step.
 
As for the galleries... my sense is that these also were in transition also from the galleries on ships like Renommee to the time of Belle Poule.  
 
But that's what I have, a sense... and not hard facts.  Everything I've mentioned is circumstantial except for the two sets of plans.  
 
I think the roof on the galleries is correct way to go.   I won't be fully committed to that until the moment I glue it on.  And I'll continue researching up until that moment.   I know there's an answer... somewhere.
 
In the meantime, I hope that someday, my building skills get to be at least equal to my research.  

Yes, Gaetan.  I have the English version... Beudroit?  I've been pouring over that one a lot the last few days.    Either there is something undocumented that only occured during certain rebuilds or..  the NMM drawing is just flat wrong even though it was made as "as captured".  
 
Hmm... yes.. similar but different.  The Licorne drawing shows that it doesn't go all the way back to the transom.  
 
Also, here's the drawing I found of La Bellone.... different gallery entirely.
 

 
 
 

IF they come? I`m waiting every second for them .............
No wonder, when I`m having 6 open projects! (Danzig, Rigi, Cairo, tugboat Bison, Baby Bootlegger, and there was somewhere the Eppleton Hall waiting!)
Well done so far, but I would have the bow a bit more smooth, that big crease down to the keel irritates me, will possible not be good for flow resistance........
Maybe you could fill it with some balsa wood and sand it to shape?
 
Regards
Gerhard

Cathead:
Other than IPMS shows the model shows are few and far between.  Model boats/ships have won the top awards at the IPMS chapter I belong to about 4 or 5 of the last 6 years and one of the local club members attended an IPMS event the same weekend as Manitowoc a bit NW of Chicago and came home with 4 of the top awards.  So, while IMPS shows don't have a lot of ships/boats they know good models when they see them.
 
The only non IPMS shows I know about in MO are radio control boats in the St. Louis area by the St. Louis Admirals - I think their regatta is coming up in September.  They have a web site.  I used to belong and drove down to meetings twice a year in addition to the regatta.  The regatta's today are much smaller but they draw some outstanding boats.  The r/c models are very good and are judges on scale merits - but all must run on the water to be judged.
 
David is right, get on I55 north to 294 to Manitowoc next May and see a great show.
 
And check the MSW topic below where everybody can post notices of upcoming shows/contests.
NAUTICAL RESEARCH GUILD NEWS, Model Ship Clubs and Exhibitions and Events, Museums and Museum Ships
 
Kurt

Hi Grant
 
She`s taking more and more shape, I like her!
When it comes to the dashboard instruments, could you take some close up pics please? Would help me (and others!) to create them for the Bootlegger.........
 
Regards
Gerhard

IF they come? I`m waiting every second for them .............
No wonder, when I`m having 6 open projects! (Danzig, Rigi, Cairo, tugboat Bison, Baby Bootlegger, and there was somewhere the Eppleton Hall waiting!)
Well done so far, but I would have the bow a bit more smooth, that big crease down to the keel irritates me, will possible not be good for flow resistance........
Maybe you could fill it with some balsa wood and sand it to shape?
 
Regards
Gerhard

Hi Nils
 
She`s a giant beauty! Even at that scale..........
 
Regards
Gerhard

Hi Grant
 
She`s taking more and more shape, I like her!
When it comes to the dashboard instruments, could you take some close up pics please? Would help me (and others!) to create them for the Bootlegger.........
 
Regards
Gerhard

IF they come? I`m waiting every second for them .............
No wonder, when I`m having 6 open projects! (Danzig, Rigi, Cairo, tugboat Bison, Baby Bootlegger, and there was somewhere the Eppleton Hall waiting!)
Well done so far, but I would have the bow a bit more smooth, that big crease down to the keel irritates me, will possible not be good for flow resistance........
Maybe you could fill it with some balsa wood and sand it to shape?
 
Regards
Gerhard

Happy Anniversary, Denis

holy smokes!   what have i done!?!   I caused all of you who looked in to get  'tone blindness'!   I didn't mean it ...I tell ya!............we'll get medical help for you folks right away!
 
no.......actually I'm kinda glad to see so many who like it......it's not exactly what I wanted,  but I'll take it.     the existing bulkhead at the bow should have been shaved down a bit.......it appears to be a little bulgy in the keel area,  but it's too late for that now.   I'll just make the best of it.  thanks to all your kind comments and to all who hit the like button  
 
hello Keith!   glad to see your still look'in in  
 
I know it didn't come out perfect Gerhard....a more perfect curvature would have been better.   what I was going for was more of a tri hull design,  as seen below.
 
     
 

 
I thought it might be cool to try........later on,  I did find some plans that would have life easier......too late to put them to theory.   I've done some more sanding......and then with a little filler and resin.....should smooth her out.   this will be the first time I use resin on my hulls.......might be a trend setter for future models.
 
Hello Wayne.....you really need to get back on the radar my friend!   that is,  unless it's MY radar that's broken,  and you've been posting updates right along without my knowledge.  I miss your talent      I also want to thank you for posting on the admiral's facebook page........I forgot to tell everyone here that it was our 28th wedding anniversary yesterday {don't look on mine.....the only thing I use mine for is to post my boats and models VWV boring! VWV!  
      we had a quite day........she read,  and I messed around on my computer and sanded.........a couple of real live wires,  we are!!  then it was off to eat at a fancy restaurant.....got fat and happy,  and went home.    well......thanks for the good word......glad to see your still following along   

Hi Nils
 
She`s a giant beauty! Even at that scale..........
 
Regards
Gerhard

After a little break, I continued with the keel plate. The groove for the steve tube was cut with a small cutting disc, and then the parts stabilized with 4 x 5mm oak wood strips. Everything fits well to the plans, so I can go on with the cuting for the rudder axle socket.
 
Cut with small disc to approx half width

 
Stabilized with 4 x 5 mm oak wood

 
Full cut and stabilized

 
Tested to the plans, fits well.

 
Thank you all for your interest, and for the many likes too !
 
Regards
Gerhard
 
 
 
 

IF they come? I`m waiting every second for them .............
No wonder, when I`m having 6 open projects! (Danzig, Rigi, Cairo, tugboat Bison, Baby Bootlegger, and there was somewhere the Eppleton Hall waiting!)
Well done so far, but I would have the bow a bit more smooth, that big crease down to the keel irritates me, will possible not be good for flow resistance........
Maybe you could fill it with some balsa wood and sand it to shape?
 
Regards
Gerhard

Hi Grant
 
She`s taking more and more shape, I like her!
When it comes to the dashboard instruments, could you take some close up pics please? Would help me (and others!) to create them for the Bootlegger.........
 
Regards
Gerhard

Hi Nils
 
She`s a giant beauty! Even at that scale..........
 
Regards
Gerhard

Thanks again Jeff,
 
the handicap when modeling a large liner is often to find and choose a suitable scale. Usualy I would build 1:96 or 1:100 but that would work out with 2 meter model length (beast !) and sowith bust all space availability
Scale 1:144 provides an overlookable dimension rating, and is about smallest I can do with my humble tool equipement, and to achieve a nice looking in details, (winches, decks, ..., etc....). Also the stairs /ladders, railings, ( etched part patterns), buckle screws,... and so on, even if very fragile, are at least available at good sorted model ( web-...) shops
 
Nils

thank you very much Piet,
 
have now painted the long railing and mounted the aft cabin (removeable per screws).....
 
Nils
 
 

 
 

 
 

 
 

 
 

The adventure continues!!! How many of these over the past 25 years, my friend? Hope you had a great day.

Thanks everyone for looking in, your kind words, and valued advice. I have been super busy with work the last couple of weeks, so not much time in the shipyard until this weekend.
 
Once I was happy that all the glue joints were going to hold, I painted the whole of the interior with a coat of epoxy finishing resin, thinned to the consistency of paint with Methylated Spirits (denatured alcohol for my American friends).  Several days later, a coat of red oxide primer was sprayed over the entire interior, giving the whole boat an immediate face-lift:
 

 
Steering Column
 
The next job was to finalise the design and construction of the steering column. Because of the set-up I am using to make the steering wheel turn when the rudder is turned, it will be necessary to install this equipment before closing up the hull. However, if I installed the steering column as a single piece, I could see it causing problems during the remainder of the build. I needed to come up with a design that would see the lower half of the steering column permanently mounted, while the upper half would be removable. It would also have to engage in such a way that the turning moment was transferred from lower half to upper half.
 
My solution was to make use of the fact that brass tubing is manufactured in such a way that each size telescopes inside the next size up. Both halves of the steering column are made from 1/8” diameter rod (brass on the lower half and stainless steel on the upper half). I then soldered a 1/8” square section brass tube, 10mm long to the ends to be joined. I then took a piece of 5/32” square section brass tube, 20mm long and soldered this over the lower half, such that the previously soldered 1/8” section fitted inside for half the length. This then created a mating “socket" for the upper half.
 
The top end of the upper half was then threaded (using my newly acquired, oh so expensive 5-40 HSS Die, and my home-made die holder). This then screws into the Steering wheel, which had a 5-40 thread tapped through the centre. This is a temporary arrangement as I plan to remake the steering wheel in brass later on, but is sufficient to prove the concept of the removable steering shaft. The upper half of the steering column also has an outer sleeve of polished chrome (kit supplied).
 
 
 
Here is a shot of all the components (minus the drive gear, which will be fiited on mounting permanently):
 

 
And here is a shot of how it all goes together:
 

 
And finally, a shot of it test-mounted in the boat:
 

 
I have also installed some plastic tubing to help with electrical cable runs (no pics yet). The next job will be to complete the dashboard as I need to work out the lighting and run the wiring for it. I plan to make the dashboard removable as well, in case a light fitting needs replacing.

Hi Glenn
 
Words just can't describe.......
 
Love it!
 
Cheers
 
Patrick

Thanks everybody,
 
I can't tell you how much I appreciate the comments and likes. The building I work in has been abandoned for the summer -- everyone off working on summer projects. This last week I did not see a single person in the building. Great for progress but it is nice to have contact with individuals with the same interests. Thanks again.
 
Frank, it is your work that has inspired me to strive for clean joinery. Every time I check in on your build I am impressed with your attention to detail and precision.
 
Greg, I was able to do all the planking in two days. I am alternating between this model and the second model. I would glue on one strake with Titebond, clamp it, work on the boiler deck framing for model two, return for the next strake etc. I think I'm wearing a circular trench in the floor of the shop. I watched the This Old House that you mentioned with the pre-fab house. My wife and I were so impressed that we ordered the catalog from O'Conner Homes. I actually mentioned to my wife as we were watching it that working there would be my dream job.
 
Mark, yes, the machinery is complete except for the chimneys, breaching and steam scrape pipe but those will go in after the boiler deck planking. I still need to and the deck bollards, tiller rope, hatch coatings and capstan. Hopefully, I can finish these up next week.
 
Cathead, shaping the planking was not necessary. The sheer is so slight that the planks sit nicely with very little bending. The shape is so simple that I feel a little guilty. Bertrand must have been much more of a challenge. I feel like I'm just planking a box.
 
Once again, thanks everybody.

Nice going Nils and the improved stanchion does look much better.
 
Cheers,