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Kishmul got a reaction from Canute in Is this a counterfit kit?
I am in a series of discussions and correspondence with a recently retired lawyer who specialised in such matters.
She is forthright in drawing the distinction between copyright, patent and intellectual property rights.
She also accepts that advances in technology make it hard for the law makers to keep up.
Straightforward copying of another's plans is an obvious infringement of copyright but, whilst still offensive, using the same plans to produce 3D prints of (say) a set of cannon it would be hard to prove that an infringement of intellectual property rights had taken place.
I am happy that this forum takes a hard line on such matters, but worry that there is a grey area in law and practice that is growing greater at quite some speed.
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Kishmul got a reaction from Ryland Craze in Is this a counterfit kit?
I am in a series of discussions and correspondence with a recently retired lawyer who specialised in such matters.
She is forthright in drawing the distinction between copyright, patent and intellectual property rights.
She also accepts that advances in technology make it hard for the law makers to keep up.
Straightforward copying of another's plans is an obvious infringement of copyright but, whilst still offensive, using the same plans to produce 3D prints of (say) a set of cannon it would be hard to prove that an infringement of intellectual property rights had taken place.
I am happy that this forum takes a hard line on such matters, but worry that there is a grey area in law and practice that is growing greater at quite some speed.
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Kishmul got a reaction from thibaultron in Is this a counterfit kit?
I am in a series of discussions and correspondence with a recently retired lawyer who specialised in such matters.
She is forthright in drawing the distinction between copyright, patent and intellectual property rights.
She also accepts that advances in technology make it hard for the law makers to keep up.
Straightforward copying of another's plans is an obvious infringement of copyright but, whilst still offensive, using the same plans to produce 3D prints of (say) a set of cannon it would be hard to prove that an infringement of intellectual property rights had taken place.
I am happy that this forum takes a hard line on such matters, but worry that there is a grey area in law and practice that is growing greater at quite some speed.
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Kishmul got a reaction from druxey in Copyright
Thank you all for your replies. This fits with the legal advice I have had in the UK. The lawyer I contacted is an expert in intellectual property rights, though not in international law. I will not infringe the rules of the forum (knowingly, for unknowingly, I hope for a warning). As it happens, one publisher has offered to put my efforts up for sale having covered (at their own expense or liability) all copyright matters. But my income would be measured in pennies. It is interesting that in another use of my workshop I build trinket/keepsake boxes from designs in a number of books. The designers make their income from book sales, I am free to copy their designs as I have bought the book. If you have bought the plans from Ancre that is as far as you can go, the rest is up to you. I will take you further and charge you for that. I will not breach forum rules, nor publish anything until this is sorted.
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Kishmul got a reaction from Bob Cleek in Proportional Dividers
Before CAD, when I was a pen and paper draughtsman, proportional dividers were an essential bit of kit and I own an expensive pair.
They are little used these days, but I would not be without them.
One word of caution when using them for planking (as has been mentioned above). When measuring from the frames or bulkheads, you are measuring the chord- a straight line between two points on the circumference of a circle or arc- not the length of the arc itself= the width of the plank. In most ship model situations the error will be so small as to be irrelevant, but it is there.
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Kishmul got a reaction from wefalck in Proportional Dividers
Before CAD, when I was a pen and paper draughtsman, proportional dividers were an essential bit of kit and I own an expensive pair.
They are little used these days, but I would not be without them.
One word of caution when using them for planking (as has been mentioned above). When measuring from the frames or bulkheads, you are measuring the chord- a straight line between two points on the circumference of a circle or arc- not the length of the arc itself= the width of the plank. In most ship model situations the error will be so small as to be irrelevant, but it is there.
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Kishmul got a reaction from mtaylor in Proportional Dividers
Before CAD, when I was a pen and paper draughtsman, proportional dividers were an essential bit of kit and I own an expensive pair.
They are little used these days, but I would not be without them.
One word of caution when using them for planking (as has been mentioned above). When measuring from the frames or bulkheads, you are measuring the chord- a straight line between two points on the circumference of a circle or arc- not the length of the arc itself= the width of the plank. In most ship model situations the error will be so small as to be irrelevant, but it is there.
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Kishmul got a reaction from WackoWolf in Proportional Dividers
Before CAD, when I was a pen and paper draughtsman, proportional dividers were an essential bit of kit and I own an expensive pair.
They are little used these days, but I would not be without them.
One word of caution when using them for planking (as has been mentioned above). When measuring from the frames or bulkheads, you are measuring the chord- a straight line between two points on the circumference of a circle or arc- not the length of the arc itself= the width of the plank. In most ship model situations the error will be so small as to be irrelevant, but it is there.
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Kishmul got a reaction from Canute in Proportional Dividers
Before CAD, when I was a pen and paper draughtsman, proportional dividers were an essential bit of kit and I own an expensive pair.
They are little used these days, but I would not be without them.
One word of caution when using them for planking (as has been mentioned above). When measuring from the frames or bulkheads, you are measuring the chord- a straight line between two points on the circumference of a circle or arc- not the length of the arc itself= the width of the plank. In most ship model situations the error will be so small as to be irrelevant, but it is there.
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Kishmul got a reaction from Elijah in Chaperon by Blighty - FINISHED - Model Shipways - Weathered and aged - My first build log
Yep, the cost would be high, but a few items scattered about can enhance a model at a reasonable cost.
I am about to start a 1:24 scale model which includes a galley and dining saloon, visible if I leave the doors open and through the windows.
I can buy crockery and copper pots from 1:24 scale dolls' house suppliers, not particularly cheap, but I am sorely tempted!
I did see a cut-away model of the "Cutty Sark" once complete with cargo of tea, hundreds of boxes true to scale of which the maker was very proud. Another viewer pointed out that the maker could have reduced his workload by only creating those that we could see and placing them around blocks.
But then we frequently spend hour fashioning pieces that will never be seen.
Whatever, yours is a great build.
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Kishmul got a reaction from ScottRC in Chaperon by Blighty - FINISHED - Model Shipways - Weathered and aged - My first build log
Try taking a look at the suppliers of accessories (in 1:48 scale) for the plastic military modelling diorama scene.
A quick look brings up oil barrels and much else, some nice clutter to enhance your model.
(No cotton bales that I have found yet!)
Ken
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Kishmul got a reaction from mtaylor in Chaperon by Blighty - FINISHED - Model Shipways - Weathered and aged - My first build log
Yep, the cost would be high, but a few items scattered about can enhance a model at a reasonable cost.
I am about to start a 1:24 scale model which includes a galley and dining saloon, visible if I leave the doors open and through the windows.
I can buy crockery and copper pots from 1:24 scale dolls' house suppliers, not particularly cheap, but I am sorely tempted!
I did see a cut-away model of the "Cutty Sark" once complete with cargo of tea, hundreds of boxes true to scale of which the maker was very proud. Another viewer pointed out that the maker could have reduced his workload by only creating those that we could see and placing them around blocks.
But then we frequently spend hour fashioning pieces that will never be seen.
Whatever, yours is a great build.
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Kishmul got a reaction from PeteB in Ancre Publications
I have bought three of Ancre's books (in English) and one set of plans. Service (to the UK) was prompt and reasonably priced.
Ken
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Kishmul got a reaction from Canute in Ancre Publications
I have bought three of Ancre's books (in English) and one set of plans. Service (to the UK) was prompt and reasonably priced.
Ken
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Kishmul got a reaction from mtaylor in Ancre Publications
I have bought three of Ancre's books (in English) and one set of plans. Service (to the UK) was prompt and reasonably priced.
Ken
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Kishmul got a reaction from Roger Pellett in Ancre Publications
I have bought three of Ancre's books (in English) and one set of plans. Service (to the UK) was prompt and reasonably priced.
Ken
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Kishmul got a reaction from Canute in Chaperon by Blighty - FINISHED - Model Shipways - Weathered and aged - My first build log
Yep, the cost would be high, but a few items scattered about can enhance a model at a reasonable cost.
I am about to start a 1:24 scale model which includes a galley and dining saloon, visible if I leave the doors open and through the windows.
I can buy crockery and copper pots from 1:24 scale dolls' house suppliers, not particularly cheap, but I am sorely tempted!
I did see a cut-away model of the "Cutty Sark" once complete with cargo of tea, hundreds of boxes true to scale of which the maker was very proud. Another viewer pointed out that the maker could have reduced his workload by only creating those that we could see and placing them around blocks.
But then we frequently spend hour fashioning pieces that will never be seen.
Whatever, yours is a great build.
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Kishmul got a reaction from Elijah in Chaperon by Blighty - FINISHED - Model Shipways - Weathered and aged - My first build log
Try taking a look at the suppliers of accessories (in 1:48 scale) for the plastic military modelling diorama scene.
A quick look brings up oil barrels and much else, some nice clutter to enhance your model.
(No cotton bales that I have found yet!)
Ken
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Kishmul got a reaction from mtaylor in Chaperon by Blighty - FINISHED - Model Shipways - Weathered and aged - My first build log
Try taking a look at the suppliers of accessories (in 1:48 scale) for the plastic military modelling diorama scene.
A quick look brings up oil barrels and much else, some nice clutter to enhance your model.
(No cotton bales that I have found yet!)
Ken
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Kishmul got a reaction from druxey in How to deal with badly drawn plans?
In my experience (limited, but extending to ships, horse-drawn vehicles, boxes and doll's houses) it is rare to find a set of plans that are 100% accurate.
To avoid frustration in the workshop (and the creation of large amounts of interestingly-shaped but expensive firewood) I "build" the model in 3D CAD in advance. This is not devoid of problems. CAD can be too accurate! That irritating gap that you have spotted and zoomed in to inspect is 1/512 of an inch wide, glue will fill that. Using the array function to place three portholes equally across a ten inch bulkhead creates an issue. Mixing units is possible and may be of use - buying rather than turning two hundred stanchions is a good notion, but if they are sold in mm and you are working in inches.......
To overcome this, I set the precision in CAD to that which I might reasonably attain in the workshop- for wood 1/64".
Even using this method, and checking wood dimensions as I go, planked hulls always require a final sanding to look "right".
I appreciate the dilemma when plans appear way off but many are xth generation copies of hand-drawn lines.
Imagine the problem of lifting lines from a 1:48 paper plan to create a full-size vessel with a keel in excess of one hundred feet.
CAD is an increasingly useful tool, fairing is still essential.
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Kishmul got a reaction from Hubac's Historian in How to deal with badly drawn plans?
In my experience (limited, but extending to ships, horse-drawn vehicles, boxes and doll's houses) it is rare to find a set of plans that are 100% accurate.
To avoid frustration in the workshop (and the creation of large amounts of interestingly-shaped but expensive firewood) I "build" the model in 3D CAD in advance. This is not devoid of problems. CAD can be too accurate! That irritating gap that you have spotted and zoomed in to inspect is 1/512 of an inch wide, glue will fill that. Using the array function to place three portholes equally across a ten inch bulkhead creates an issue. Mixing units is possible and may be of use - buying rather than turning two hundred stanchions is a good notion, but if they are sold in mm and you are working in inches.......
To overcome this, I set the precision in CAD to that which I might reasonably attain in the workshop- for wood 1/64".
Even using this method, and checking wood dimensions as I go, planked hulls always require a final sanding to look "right".
I appreciate the dilemma when plans appear way off but many are xth generation copies of hand-drawn lines.
Imagine the problem of lifting lines from a 1:48 paper plan to create a full-size vessel with a keel in excess of one hundred feet.
CAD is an increasingly useful tool, fairing is still essential.
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Kishmul got a reaction from mtaylor in How to deal with badly drawn plans?
In my experience (limited, but extending to ships, horse-drawn vehicles, boxes and doll's houses) it is rare to find a set of plans that are 100% accurate.
To avoid frustration in the workshop (and the creation of large amounts of interestingly-shaped but expensive firewood) I "build" the model in 3D CAD in advance. This is not devoid of problems. CAD can be too accurate! That irritating gap that you have spotted and zoomed in to inspect is 1/512 of an inch wide, glue will fill that. Using the array function to place three portholes equally across a ten inch bulkhead creates an issue. Mixing units is possible and may be of use - buying rather than turning two hundred stanchions is a good notion, but if they are sold in mm and you are working in inches.......
To overcome this, I set the precision in CAD to that which I might reasonably attain in the workshop- for wood 1/64".
Even using this method, and checking wood dimensions as I go, planked hulls always require a final sanding to look "right".
I appreciate the dilemma when plans appear way off but many are xth generation copies of hand-drawn lines.
Imagine the problem of lifting lines from a 1:48 paper plan to create a full-size vessel with a keel in excess of one hundred feet.
CAD is an increasingly useful tool, fairing is still essential.
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Kishmul got a reaction from thibaultron in How to deal with badly drawn plans?
In my experience (limited, but extending to ships, horse-drawn vehicles, boxes and doll's houses) it is rare to find a set of plans that are 100% accurate.
To avoid frustration in the workshop (and the creation of large amounts of interestingly-shaped but expensive firewood) I "build" the model in 3D CAD in advance. This is not devoid of problems. CAD can be too accurate! That irritating gap that you have spotted and zoomed in to inspect is 1/512 of an inch wide, glue will fill that. Using the array function to place three portholes equally across a ten inch bulkhead creates an issue. Mixing units is possible and may be of use - buying rather than turning two hundred stanchions is a good notion, but if they are sold in mm and you are working in inches.......
To overcome this, I set the precision in CAD to that which I might reasonably attain in the workshop- for wood 1/64".
Even using this method, and checking wood dimensions as I go, planked hulls always require a final sanding to look "right".
I appreciate the dilemma when plans appear way off but many are xth generation copies of hand-drawn lines.
Imagine the problem of lifting lines from a 1:48 paper plan to create a full-size vessel with a keel in excess of one hundred feet.
CAD is an increasingly useful tool, fairing is still essential.
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