garyshipwright

Thanks every one and what if I said that when it came to the upper deck, if  I said that depends.  If one looks at the lay out of the gun deck of the Hampton court and the Dorsetshire  it does in fact show on the gun deck that the beams on the forward side of the pumps, were on the forward side and the beams, aft of the pumps on the aft side, so you guys are right, they could have this lay out. When I installed the knee's on Montague gun deck this is how I installed them but on the upper deck it's not the same. Now when you get to the upper deck looking at the Dorsetshire of 1757 you will noticed that they don't follow that lay out of the gun deck but in fact are on the fwd side of the beams but Hampton Court does keep the gun deck lay out when it comes to the knees.  If you look at the plan of the Dorsetshire on her upper gun deck 18 of the hanging knees were on the forward side of the beams and only 5 was on the aft per side. Now another plan that I have been using is the upper deck plan of the 74 gun ship Hector  of 1774. This one shows that 21 hanging knees on the forward side and only 7 on the aft side per side. When I look at the layout of the lower deck gun ports and the upper deck beams lay out I find my self seeing that normal hanging knees would fit on the fwd side easier then on the aft side because of the gun port below it. Plans of the Dorsetshire and the Hector shows this wasn't always true that they were not always like Hampton court on the upper deck.  Can anyone show me were this was written that this was done doing this time frame. Finding plans that show the placement of knees is rare, and  makes it just a little hard but if you have one that shows this please show it and would be most grateful for adding to our knowledge.    That why  I asked would it matter on which side it was installed on for strength. Sorry if my question confused any one. 

Alan here is a couple of photo's of the partner on the gun deck for the main mast  showing it's construction. Hope you enjoy the photo's. Also i don't think the lighter partners could be moved and once installed could not be adjusted,like the heavy partner's. Gary

Alan here's a old one showing the crew goofing off. Gary

Hi Alan. I do think that they  had what I think was at least a box like bracing  around the vertical mast and called it  a collar beams. , to have a collar beam afore at the heights of the ports, 11 inches square, kneed at each end with on substantial iron knee, bolted with six saucer headed bolts of 1 inch diameter, or have two stantions run down to a cant on the upper deck and half beams with a rabbitt for the plank of the beakhead, as shall be directed. Mark has a photo of the Bellona beak head that show those  two stantions .  do believe that had a hard time getting a collar beam and settled on the Stanction's. This is a earlier photo before I started the deck over and tore all of this out. Thanks Alan but I believe you are  experienced modeller and thanks for all the help you do give me. 

Hello every one. Need some thought's on this and maybe a little input. The carlings that was installed on the sides of the bow sprit on the upper deck, I believe to keep it locked in place from shifting side ways, maybe or just to support the ledges on the outside. Most plans don't t show nothing like ledges between them to support the planking. Come to think of it most plans don't show ledges at all, at least not any that I have looked at. Any ideal's?  I drew up what I thought may of been there to support the deck planks around the bow sprint, but can not find any info on what was there. Am sure they filled in between with ledges, but just want some thought's on it. I looked in the swan books and a few more but unsure. Thanks in advance. Don't be to hard on my drawing  and who knows maybe in my next life time I come back as Michelangelo😁

Thanks Mark. They do give it a sense of perspective don't they. Here is her first crew from earlier photo's and unsure of where they went. Maybe they was pressed on to another ship.🥺🙂  Gary
 

Hi every one. Finally got my camera charged up and took a few photo's, hope you enjoy them. The figures came from shape way and ideal of using them came from Chuck. Spent the day painting them  and  have white hair like their owner. 😁Gary

Thanks every one and the happy birthday's and  comments are well received.  Greg thought I would let you know but the rudder does work and moves from stbd to port. I probably will put in a stop some place which should prevent me from wanting to put it in the tub and take it sailing. Well maybe not the tub. Ed, this is one of the more interesting things I have done on her along with tackles for the gun port lids that you can see in the photo's. Once again thank you folk's and hope to have another up date before my next birthday. 🐵
 


 


 

Hi guys. Been awhile since my last update and after retiring I seem to be spending more time in the shop, that is until the honey do's come calling. Here is a small up date on her Hope you enjoy the photo's. Gary
 
 
 
 
 
 

Thanks guys. If feels good and as you said there just doesn't seem to be enough hours in the day to get every thing done. But I am really enjoying my self.  Any way here is a couple of photos of the shop and addition to it. I added it in where do you do yours.  

here is a couple more showing work on the Stern and its quarter gallery's


 
 

Hi Guys. Here is some photo's of Montagu at the moment with new items to help me get things square on her and to help with her stern and quarter gallery. Gary

Hi Allan. Nice plant stand's  and its a good thing the misses has not seen them or I never get back to work on my ship. Keep up the good work. Gary

Hi Guys. Another update for you and this time as far back as we can go on the orlop, but has more to do with strengthen the transom's more then the Orlop deck. Some call them sleeper beams and Goodwin call's them transom knee's, which you can see on page 108 in his book Sailing Man of War,1650-1850.In the photo's you will also see the last beam of the gun deck along with knee's for the deck transom and the knees for the last deck beams. Most 3rd rates had three of them per side. Hope you enjoy the photo's folks.
 
 
 
 
 

Hi Allan. Nice plant stand's  and its a good thing the misses has not seen them or I never get back to work on my ship. Keep up the good work. Gary

Hi Allan. Nice plant stand's  and its a good thing the misses has not seen them or I never get back to work on my ship. Keep up the good work. Gary

Hi Allan. Nice plant stand's  and its a good thing the misses has not seen them or I never get back to work on my ship. Keep up the good work. Gary

Received my swivel guns today!
OMG they are tiny.... and so sweet.
(3D resin printed from my CAD model .stl file by a local club member)

Today I completed the installation of chocks between the frames.
 
Tomorrow I will sand them down to the frames and remark all gunports carefully before beginning cutting out the frames to install the upper and lower sills (cills).

Managed to sand all the chocks flush to the timbers this afternoon.
Started fairing!
(oh joy)

Hello,
so far the beakhead bulkhead is ready. Next the artist can come and paint the trophy bundles. But before that could start, a lot of brain storming has to be done. So, it may take some time
 

 

 

 

 
 

Hello  Everyone. Seems its been awhile but some times life hits you between the eyes but I did get a little bit down on Montagu. Hope you enjoy the photo's. Gary

Thank you all for the comments and all the likes !

Nothing new, but a nice angle of view.

Thanks druxey.   I did enjoy building the work bench and always wanted one. Seems the drawers took the longest to build which probably had some thing to do with them being dove tailed together. That was interesting for sure. Didn't come out to bad. if I didn't have the leigh dove tail jig probably would have just made  box joints.  If any one is interested in building one I added the cover of the magazine showing the bench.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Hi Michael. For me it just right. To hard on the eyes if it was any smaller.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             Hi Mark. Every thing is ok at the moment  and seems am very happy to be back to work on her. Who knows maybe I just might get the upper deck built, that is if I get the outside planking done. ;o)                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Gary