Pierretessier

The fifth one, from Ancre.fr,  and I forgot, I have a  sixth book , containing  almost 550 pages about the construction with photos.
 
I did not think that there would be comments on this first post. So, thank you. Occasionnally I like to consolidate the experience  of the last years.
 
Some peoples saw the construction of the V3.0_74_ 1/24 in the MSW1.0 forum.
For those who did not see the other models, there are :
 
V1.0_ 74_1/192, to give you an idea about the diameter of the figurehead, it is about ¼ of the diameter of a small finger.
 
V2.0_ 74_ 1/48, this model is represented at port during winter. (Here in Quebec, this year it  will probably the year with the most snow the way it is looking today)
 
V3.0_74_ 1/24, this model is made from many kinds of domestic and exotics woods.
 
V4.0_74_ 1/24, Depending of the content of the fifth book, a choice will be made to see which 74 will be represented. The only kind of exotic wood I still like to buy is a orange amaranth which smell vanilla when we sand it. But it is to use for ship modeling. For this build, 100% cherry wood will be use. I beleive that cherry wood is a suitable wood for our activity. In the last build I done, a 64 guns, cherry wood was also use. Among the comments, only 1 people, from France, did not like the choice of cherry. Some are very strict about customs. Somebody wrote in another forum that the only scale you can use 1/48 and that the only woods you can use is pear wood and boxwood. To stay polite, I will say that I think in life we need to see broader horizon.
 
In the structure there is no problem, it is only in the outside planking that, careful  choice must be use to select the grain. If this rule is well applied, then I would say that cherry wood is perfectly suited to use for model ship construction.
 
What did I learn working at different scales; the bigger the scale the easier the work, and the reason is pretty simple : it is easier to work a piece of wood if we can hold it with all the hand fingers instead of only 2.
 
What is the best tool I tried?  It is not for any reson if the jewelers work at  a higher height, closer to their eyes, it is to see better the small parts. Height adjustable table is probably one of the best tool. To have the part at the good height makes the work easier  and also the work can be done  with less effortsthus inducing less fatigue.
 
 It enters in the category of the when ‘’you try it, you keep it.’’ Mike found probably the best source to buy an adjtable height table : IKEA. To make it simple, you can buy 3 kinds : 2-3 height position, handle height adjusting and electric adjusting table.
 
In the small category, my  prefered 2 tools I like to use are the scalpel with #11 blade. This tool is a great mystery in itself. Even if it is the best small knife available, most people on this forum prefer to use  the commercialised hobby knife : Exacto. I guess to understand you need  to compare side to side the performance, then  you can see that an exacto blade is far from being as sharp as a scalpel blade.
 
The other one is the proportional divider. This tool comes back occasionally on the forum. The last time I saw comments about this tool, I observed that  there is still a lot of education to do about this tool. I am far from being sure that everybody understands the real uses  of this tool. But the nice thing about this forum :  is that forum is a great educational tool.
 

Lower band of planking. 1st plank (Garboard is 3/16" aft tapered to 1/8" forward). It is beveled to seat into the rabbit created by the side pieces on the former (keel). It is then followed by 8 strakes of 1/8" x 1/16".
 
 

The next build.
 
Before to begin the construction  with wood, I want to have all the necessary information I need for the complete build.
 
-I do not want to have to do extensive research
-I do not want to draw plans
-I do not want to begin in 5 years
 
My prefered activity is to build and I want to concentrate on this particular aspect.
 
V4.0       for the forth time
74           I will build a 74 guns
1/24      I will use the biggest scale I can manage. For this one 1/24 is 8 feet long. This is
                about the maximum I can easily manipulate. I would have love to build even at
                a bigger scale like 1/12 but I do not have all the plans I need.
 
Jean Boudriot offers me everything I need. All the required information  is available in 5 books, not 4 but yes 5. I am a lazy person for this time, I will not draw the frames; JC Lemineur did and I will use it.
 
So, I have all what I need to begin :
-all the paper I need (the fifth book is in the mail)
-all the tools I bought tools for the last 30 years
-all the wood I need, at least for the frames.
 
I did build  1 version of the 74 with exotic woods. If I add the price of all the exotic woods used, you would not believe how much expensive it can be in these quantities.
 
Traditionnally, in Europe, they use pear wood  for the frames and boxwood for the carvings.
In my country, here in Quebec, there are no places to buy these woods and anyway it is too expensive for what I want to do.
 
Here in Quebec, one of the most stable wood we have is cherry wood. In addition the properties 
are similar to pear wood except for the grain; cherry has pear has not. For sanding both are identical. As a bonus, at least for my taste, I love the smell of this wood when cutting or sanding.
 

That's a really beautiful model. Well done! 

Agree 100 % Rick. :-)
 
I was woried about doing a single layer plank for my first build. I think it turned out not bad. The precision lazer parts and the quality of the wood has a lot to do with it.
 

 
I will redo the oar tholes "not a fan of exposed plywood"
 

 
3 bits and 2 oars a fine sanding and some finish and she will be done!

Agree 100 % Rick. :-)
 
I was woried about doing a single layer plank for my first build. I think it turned out not bad. The precision lazer parts and the quality of the wood has a lot to do with it.
 

 
I will redo the oar tholes "not a fan of exposed plywood"
 

 
3 bits and 2 oars a fine sanding and some finish and she will be done!

I do not see anything for the Dremel Lathe...??

Are these still available? I've seen a few used ones online but that's it?

I do not see anything for the Dremel Lathe...??

Are these still available? I've seen a few used ones online but that's it?

Sorry Pierre,
My mistake.
No the Dremel lathe disappeared in 1990.
I haven't been able to find an official year though, so the year 1990 may not be accurate.

Agree 100 % Rick. :-)
 
I was woried about doing a single layer plank for my first build. I think it turned out not bad. The precision lazer parts and the quality of the wood has a lot to do with it.
 

 
I will redo the oar tholes "not a fan of exposed plywood"
 

 
3 bits and 2 oars a fine sanding and some finish and she will be done!

Agree 100 % Rick. :-)
 
I was woried about doing a single layer plank for my first build. I think it turned out not bad. The precision lazer parts and the quality of the wood has a lot to do with it.
 

 
I will redo the oar tholes "not a fan of exposed plywood"
 

 
3 bits and 2 oars a fine sanding and some finish and she will be done!

I have read logs on Sultana. As this was the first wooden model kit I bought – I was SO eager and vibrating with excitement to get my hands dirty and start building…only to get overwhelmed with the minutia of what tools/jigs/materials I needed to make a perfect job of my first attempt. So…this kit quickly got sidelined by a bit of frustration (as I am a bit of a perfectionist) on me part. Subsequently, started a build log for a plank on frame for newbies (Lady Nelson). However, life got in the way, and so did planking! (A skillset that will take some time to develop is planking) Fast forward many months, and the Lady has been sidelined by the Sultana. Having overcome one major obstacle…my fear of failure. Yes, I no longer care if I screw up – because that was what was holding me back from trying new things! That mind set was really killing my love of modeling (I have built many plastic models but always wanted to get into wood ship models). So….damn the torpedoes…the build logs/post/forums/ship club members really helped recharge my self confidence…and the fact that great ship models are nothing but a series of skilled mistakes overcome by patience, experience, laughter, and some wood filler. (Haha)
 
With that said, I can honestly say that my model's name, Sultana, could be replaced with more colorful Names….for instance:
 
The Bloody Thumb
The WhatTheHellDidIJustDo
The Chuckling Asymmetry (My favorite)
 
So…I have made some progress on my Sultana and intend this to be my first finish! I will be updating this posts with a variety of pics and lessons learned. Stay tuned!
 
-Patrick

Good Morning All, Thanks to all who have visited, for the likes and the gracious comments. Much appreciated.
 Not a heck of a lot going on but having fun doing it, just a few pictures showing what';s going on:
 
The windless with it's poles(is there a proper name for these?)

 
The next few pictures are showing the process I used to make some demizanas

 
 
This one is showing the tools I used

 
This is showing what I have been mainly busy at this week, making shooter glasses. Normally I wouldn't show this but being we are drinking rum out of these so I thought it was a little nautical. It is a 60th birthday party with a Jamaican theme, hence the colors and Appeltons rum.
 

 
Here is the final demizanas, the small one still needs some refinement. They are about 30 and 10 mm tall.
 

 
And to end with, I have the port side deck rail installed and the top timbers re-installed. Now onto the starboard side
 

 
Thanks again for stopping in and have a Good One

Pierre, 
 
Dumas has a kit of the Lightning but I think Zoran can do a great job with this model.  Looking at his plans for Batelina and Pasara, I think we'll be building real, tiny, boats instead of something that looks kind of like a Lightning from fifty feet away. I also really like the quality of the wood Maristella uses. None of the other manufacturers come close to their quality.  As for the Star, Mamoli had a nice kit but they went out of business and the kit was discontinued. I'm not sure if Dusek, the company that is reviving the Mamoli line will be building the Star again. it seems the Mamoli kit was really nice, like all their kits and the number on the sail, 1426, was the number on the Star owned by the original owners of Mamoli. Again, I think Zoran can do a wonderful job with that. 
 
OK, no more hijacking; let's see more pictures of Batelina. I can't wait to build that myself!
 
 
 
Cheers, 
 
Rick 

She is a work of art Bob.

Hey Rick, you hijacking my post....lol kidding.
 
I was not sure what you meant by STAR and LIGHTNING , my personal lack of knowledge. Now that I know what you meant I think it's excellent that Zoran may be thinking of doing this. And the Idea of using your numbers is cool, we will need a 3d figure of yourself at the helm.
Since we are talking about Zoran, may I add my personal gratitude to him. He is a true gentlemen and very helpful. I am glad to have connected with him on this forum, willing to help out in any way he can. My second build will be his Santa Maria kit and he has already agreed to help me out to make sure I go about it the proper way.
Not sure how many other kit manufacturers go the extra mile like this but I for one strongly recommend MarisStella for quality and support.
Now back to the shipyard, I have a floor to build for my Batelina.

Thanks guy's,
Did a bit more work on the tops, ready for rough sanding. I think I'm getting the hang of it. A few pieces on the interior and the floor left. Really enjoying this build looking forward to starting the Santa Maria, hopefully next week.
 

 
Cheers.

Hey Rick, you hijacking my post....lol kidding.
 
I was not sure what you meant by STAR and LIGHTNING , my personal lack of knowledge. Now that I know what you meant I think it's excellent that Zoran may be thinking of doing this. And the Idea of using your numbers is cool, we will need a 3d figure of yourself at the helm.
Since we are talking about Zoran, may I add my personal gratitude to him. He is a true gentlemen and very helpful. I am glad to have connected with him on this forum, willing to help out in any way he can. My second build will be his Santa Maria kit and he has already agreed to help me out to make sure I go about it the proper way.
Not sure how many other kit manufacturers go the extra mile like this but I for one strongly recommend MarisStella for quality and support.
Now back to the shipyard, I have a floor to build for my Batelina.

Hey Rick, you hijacking my post....lol kidding.
 
I was not sure what you meant by STAR and LIGHTNING , my personal lack of knowledge. Now that I know what you meant I think it's excellent that Zoran may be thinking of doing this. And the Idea of using your numbers is cool, we will need a 3d figure of yourself at the helm.
Since we are talking about Zoran, may I add my personal gratitude to him. He is a true gentlemen and very helpful. I am glad to have connected with him on this forum, willing to help out in any way he can. My second build will be his Santa Maria kit and he has already agreed to help me out to make sure I go about it the proper way.
Not sure how many other kit manufacturers go the extra mile like this but I for one strongly recommend MarisStella for quality and support.
Now back to the shipyard, I have a floor to build for my Batelina.

Edward, pulling up a seat to watch your build. Good luck with the kit.
 
You might want to take a trip to your local Michaels (arts/crafts chain store) or equivalent and pick up a good supply of old fashion wood clothes pins (the spring action type), get several sizes including the teeny tiny ones that look like doll clothes pins. The make fantastic clamps.  Also pick up popsicle sticks - make excellent glue spreaders.  Office Depot and Staples carry metal binder clips - great clamps also.

Greetings, I know this is Pierre's thread so I apologize for the intrusion but, to follow the note I made the other day, Zoran loved the idea of making the Star and the Lightning. He even promised to use the number from my Star, 6756, for the sail. 
 
I think they will both be excellent kits as they are hard chine constructions similar to Batelina but more complicated and with interesting rigs. I think they'll make excellent models for the Maristella line.  
 
Cheers, 
 
Rick 

Me too, Chuck

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Break in work - construction Bluenose II
 

 
Best regards Peter