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Well done John. I envy the weathering job.
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Hi Ken, the crane irons look quite authentic. Just curious, are they metal, etc. ? Mike
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Thanks. My kit only came with only one so I thought it was for the whale line at the stem! Go figure.
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Hi John, the sail looks great. Just curious, how did you make the eyelets? Mike
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Fantastic. Great shot from the stem looking back and well done on the cap rail scroll work. Mike
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Ahh... ironing and stitching the sails! You're a better man than I. Mike
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Thank you, I appreciate that. It was really good for me to go through that model. I channeled Thomas Edison ... learning 1000 ways to NOT do something. I'm going to build a doghouse with the scrapped basswood. I do really like Chuck's kits. Along with that, I'm considering a yet to be determined scratch 😬 project. The Morgan's proximity to me is one or maybe the Katy which has local interest. Thanks again, Mike
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'Just ordered Ships of the Past by Davis, Marine Research Society Publication #19, First Publish date 1929. I ordered the paperback, it's probably the 1977 version. Hoping to see something like the Katy. Maybe plans(!!!) Should be fun reading anyway. .... off to Mystic.
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Oars & oarlocks look great. I wish I could do weathering like that. My tubs were too tall at first and didn't fit the wells nicely. Also, the false bottoms were not deep enough for the line I made. Both noticed AFTER I painted them. 😆 Mike
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Ken, I meant to mention I can print from the pdf. I use the free version of Foxit Reader (v10). It looks like there are 21 images (double pages) in the pdf. I tested one double page on my printer setting "grey scale" to avoid using color ink. It printed OK albeit faded like the original. The text in the image can be highlighted with Foxit. Thank you for the Richard Ring tip. Mike
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The research collections building is closed to the public right now. Looks like email is the only way to communicate right now 😬. Ordinarily, it is open but I have never visited that building. The Seaport area will be partially open, limited by both covid and their seasonal hours. I'm expecting appointments will be needed. Or some limitation on the number of people. We will be going there tomorrow to skim the bookstore and walk around some of the open exhibits inside the Seaport. I'm hoping to get to talk to someone at their new visitor center that can give a little incite as to how they might operate the research building as covid winds down. Fingers crossed, Mike
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Lou, Ken Mystic has online listings now of a lot of their collection, including their Davis's manuscripts. The listing looks promising. i.e “Sailing Ships of the American Navy; 1776-1850” packet ships, Hudson bay, models, etc ..... Per their site their access policy, notwithstanding covid, seems to be "Available for use in the manuscripts division". My wife and I are members and we are going there soon to check out the Charles Morgan/books/plans. We go there multiple times in a year. It should be easy enough to find out about actual access to the manuscripts division... I'll bring my cotton gloves just in case. Davis Collection at Mystic Mike
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I'll have to check when the RIHS opens up. I have a couple of questions if you don't mind. - Are the plans you have from the book the same as from the restoration project group? If so, is one more clear than the other? - Are they by Charles Wittholz? Thank you, Mike
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Hi Ken, looks to me that it's just a pdf file containing a digital image (~3.3 Mb). I just saved it as a pdf. I see this on the same "Publications" web page...... I'm going to dig a little into the reference of "The Rhode Island Sloop" for fun. The Brownell model is shown at the bottom of the image. Mike
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Good News, looks like there is at least some public access to the Rhode Island Historical Society site records. Be aware they have a copyright policy. This should lead to the document I mentioned.... RIHS Home Page >> Research >> Publications >> Rhode Island History Journal .... search on George Miner (author) ... see Vol. 2, 1943 Mike
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Hi Bruce, I tried with no luck to recreate the clicks used to get to the RIHS page which linked to the source pdf . Oddly, I always test the links I post to verify they would work for other forum members, and it did last night, but not this morning. Possibly, when I shut down the PC last night, it lost the cookie. In any case, I just joined the RIHS and got to the document. I found their copyright policy and a researcher is required to get permission to reproduce an image. I will go back and delete my original link. ..... OK, link deleted. Certainly, I will stick to their copyright policy. RIHS has a "permission application form", I'll check into how that works. Mike
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Hi Lou & Ken. I just noticed that RIHS link is dead. I'll check on that later today... maybe it's not "public" as I stated and log in credentials are needed. In any case, I'll join RIHS to support them as I dig into the the Katy. I'm also looking at the Charles Morgan for a scratch project as well. Thank you for the quick response to my post. If you don't mind, I'm sure I'll have some very basic questions for you both. Mike
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Hi Ken, you have a really beautiful model in progress. I have recently been following your Providence build as well as your discussion with @Imagna. She is on my short list for a scratch build so I have just begun my research. I live a few miles north of Providence, RI and just today got into the Rhode Island Historical Society online services. The link below contains a 1943 Historical Society Publication regarding many interesting facts about the Providence. Too many for me to copy & paste here. It also includes some words about the several year interchange among Davis, Brownell, Wales and the RIHS article author. My takeaway is that the Brownell model is based on a collaborative effort. I, as of yet, have not seen any plans... just getting going. (edit: link dead this morning (3-24-21) I'll check on this.) (edit: deleted link to follow RIHS copyright policy) Click on Digital Version Available . Please disregard if you have seen this already. Mike
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Thank you VTHokiEE for your kind comments. This one was a lot of fun. Well, not so much fun when deciding to toss a piece out for a minor defect or just glue it down and forget about it. 🤔 In any case she's finished. For me, I now have more knowledge about what materials and methods I like in certain situations and can build on that. No question, I would absolutely recommend the NRG half hull project to anyone. Thanks again for looking in. Now, where to put it??? Mike
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... 3-12-21 Detaching the model from the board was not too difficult. I separated the stem, keel and stern from the paper first with two utility knife blades so the keel would not bend while releasing the frames. One frame at a time, lever a chisel just enough to hear the paper partially separate. Then keep working it a little at a time. Note the keel was glued more lightly than the frames. A little clean up Mike
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.. 02-25-21 All the boxwood planks are in. They were very easy to bend using hot air and hand pressure. The cap rail is made with walnut from some very old inventory. The aft most plank of the counter is left wide to mate up with the lower plank of the transom. ... 02-28-21 Again, a trial. The second basswood strip was attached to the first in one go by gluing it at the stem, then wetting/hot air bending/twisting and gluing a little at a time. I would NOT do this again. It worked out OK but was just too risky if there were a problem along the way and needed to be undone. Walnut trim finished. ... 3-8-21 Wale masked off for hand painting (gulp).... I usually air-brush. Two coats of sanding sealer was applied before painting. Also, tung oil applied to upper 3 planks of boxwood.... fingers crossed. ... 3-11-21 Wales painted and three coats of tung oil applied and polished out. I was surprised how nicely the tung oil brought out the seams of the planks. On to detaching the model from the board. Mike
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... 2-4-21 The planks above the wales are made from castello boxwood. This area on Toni's project was nicely blended and belies the complexity of the joint. I held off shaping the transom 'till last and had the counter in and out three times changing its shape. In any case, I made sure the lower edge of the first box plank would land on the transom and I would do whatever was needed to under fill that plank at the counter. Out of curiosity, just experimenting with home made gap filler. ~ 2:1 H2O:PVA painted directly on sawdust that remains in the seam after sanding. Mike
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... 1-30-21 Just found another bulge at the wale on frame B. I was able to detach the wale with no damage, sand down the frame and reattach... no harm done. .. 02-02-21 The hull is finally planked up to the wales and sanded. Actually a little over sanded a bit at the lower stem. The basswood was difficult to sand flat. These planks are not glued together at the edge so they are able to bend inwards in between the frames. Mike
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Hi John, looking great. The steering oar brace mat is beautiful. If I may, check in post #61 the little dowel at the top of the mast. It's a small issue but I believe it should be turned 90 degrees. I notice only because I removed mine TWICE. Once for the same reason and then again because the space above the upper mast rigging support "tabs" and the pin wasn't big enough to fit the rigging line. Mike
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