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Well Michael...I can only gather that you're reminded of your 10 year old plastic sail experience by looking at my sail experience, which means....?... And which also begs me to wonder if my attempts are not much better, in your eyes, than a ten year olds attempt?😏 I need to step up my game then.😆 Just kidding....I know what you meant...and thanks! Rob
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Simple paper is all. It can be rolled and manipulated into pretty much what you need in a sail. A light coat of the appropriate paint...let dry and there you go.. I'll help you with any advice and suggestions. Rob
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Thanks loads Popeye.....I will attempt billowing sails again...with the experience I acquired from this last set of experiments. I just couldn't get the same smooth surface look that was present in all of the other sails...and I didn't want the billowing sails to look entirely different in color and surface aesthetics. A full set of active sails will do just nicely. Rob
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Great progress........she nearly ready to go to work... Rob
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While building the sail I opted to simulate the addition of repaired panels on the sails...to give some realistic perspective. Still have lots of control lines to run along with the belaying of buntlines and sheets..not to mention the downhauls. Once sail down and the main course left on the main mast.. Rob
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After this task...I built and set the lower topsail.......once done I had to rig more blocks for its control.
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Spent some time today wrapping up some belaying of roya/topsail control lines before I begin to work on the lower topsail.
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I agree with Dowmer..the natural sag to the lines is (IHV) part of the authenticity of a model. Actual running lines sag under gravity on real vessels...why not on models. If we are so attentive to get every aspect of our models correct to the tiniest detail...why not the natural sag of the lines. Great work Ed..nice to see you at it again...nearly done too...... Rob
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Thanks Pat. I am encouraged knowing that anything will *Pop* into my head. Rob
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Beautiful...... questions: Did you secure the pedestals to the base...or are they floating? Did you cut out the letters with a knife and then paint them...and if you did..how did you do it so smoothly?
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Waste of time was not the right description...... You are very correct....the only time I meant that was wasted was the time utilized for experimentation that was not used in actual building. Time spent experimenting is NEVER wasted. I just lurnt how not to make convincing fluffy billowing sails. Rob
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Just a note: After exhausting all other ideas to form billowing sails that represent a sail that is being drawn in via its bunt, clew and sheets....it has become apparent to me that attaining a similar look...one that is in harmony with all the other sails....is not easily done with such dissimilar material. Starching the paper sails was not an option, because the overall look was altered..and an uneven micro wrinkled surface was also not acceptable. Similar translucency was never achievable (Not to my liking anyway). Vacuum forming was my best option for achieving the best results for great billows....however..they never looked natural and joints between billows never materialized with the neatness and cleanliness I had so desired. I have no photographic evidence....because in experimentation mode, I generally do not take images. Not until I have found a successful...repeatable technique do I then record those efforts. So my friends....it looks as if the brilliant idea of incorporating several fluttering sails as was depicted in the Glory of the Seas painting won't be part of this build. No real tragedy.....a full set of sails is impressive enough and the technique I have developed for this model will suffice. So now it's back to the shipyard(and out of the laboratory), and time to put my hands to making the lower topsail. I will add the shroud fairleads to the starboard side(Port side is complete), and run the top sails control lines, the topsail yard downhaul and such. Thanks for enduring my little charade. I gave the impression of success....when in fact, all I did was experiment, and waste time. Rob
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Wonderful job...she turned out magnificent. Nice clean representation. Rob
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That's coming along very nicely.....good job Clippers are my favorite design...so, I'll be watching with delight. Rob
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Indeed. The wrinkles, Oh the wrinkles. Forming wet paper over round/ovoidal surfaces is a tuff gig. (Unanticipated). I was overly positive...I think. I've done this before...but the level of poor surface quality..just is no cutting it for the level of detail I'm working for. I also tried the *Forced perspective*...comprising a layering effect , simulating folding canvas...even after hours of attempt and paint and such....the effect was far from convincing. Maybe on another model...one not going in the direction this ones going. Sheesh....... All that is left is to attempt the vacuum forming idea....if that becomes a complicated mess...then I am not spending another wasted minute. I'll regain my focus and continue with the full set of sails as originally planned. Rob
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I agree....a receiving period model of the Connie would be a fresh new idea and a wonderful addition to any collection. A model to really encourage conversations. Thanks for your comments. Rob
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I would think so......Furling a sail is one thing....creating billows is another...and it ain't easy. Rob
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I'm also toying with the idea of vacuum forming the billows and then gluing them together at the buntline seams...this idea seams to have great possibilities. Then the final product will get a good coat of paint. I can create wood molds that I can then put in my vacuum former to create the pieces to form the entire sail....... This idea sounds good too...... Oh my mind is a whir of deep cosmic transient thoughts....... Something genius will pop out I'm sure...... Rob
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One other note: Just as one would modify furled sail material(Not using the full sail to furl), I will cut and modify the sail to appear to be reefed up(along with the actual bunt and leach lines). One must utilize forced perspective to achieve the desired result....and visually modifying the sail to *appear* as if it is being let out or furled, without going through the tedium of folding each billow and crease within the sail. Rob
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Indeed...I have Separator used for sealing against acrylics made for plasters and dental stones....it will do the trick. It will be like working with paper machete ...... just without the starch. I have a feeling this technique will develop as I go along. Rob
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