hamilton

Hello there: I've now finished the framework of the Greyhound, and begun the planking (well....I've laid 2 planks of the first planking....). The completion of the framework involved a few pretty straightforward steps - though as I've come to expect from this kit, these were not without their trials. 1. Fitting the quarterdeck - this photo shows how the edges of the quarterdeck were set back from the run of planks, and the following photos show how I fixed the problem. 2. Fitting the forecastle - a very straightforward operation - no specific photos here 3. Stern framing - the plans called for 3mm x 3mm strips on the outside of the stern and 4 more strips of 2mm x 2mm to complete the stern framing. I didn't deviate from this, but had to alter the slots in the main and quartedeck to square things and make the strips fit. I used the metal transom as a guide so I could be assured that everything would fit - I hadn't taken the part out of the bag before, and I was upset (though not surprised) to see that it is totally asymmetrical - it looks like it melted on one side.....yuck!! Now I'm wondering about building a scratch transom....but my carving skills are non-existent....I might give it a go and see what happens....check out the photo - probably passable (with some weathering) but not really up to snuff.... 4. the counter supports - these came as laser cut pieces, but given the modifications I had to make earlier in the deck to make it fit, I had to reshape these, as well. I was pleasantly surprised to find that even once I had cut them down considerably they still form an admirable space for the counter planking with ample room too along bulkhead 13 for the stern planking. Drilling the rudder hole might be a completely different matter however - only the planking will tell. 5. Planking - I'm starting with the bulwarks, so have not yet done a full hull analysis. I did take a bit of time to mark out bands on the bulkhead edges. I decided on 5 bands, each of which is 15mm at the dead flat - 3 planks of 5mm. 6. Initial planking preparations - The planking arrangement in the plans totals 4.5mm thick (1.5mm first planking, 1mm vertical planking around the metal gunports, 1mm inboard planking, 1mm second planking outboard). This seemed crazy to me, since the caprail is only 4mm wide. Good thing I checked ahead! So I've decided on a few modifications -- I'm not using the metal gunports, since I'm making open bulwarks - this rendered the 1mm vertical planking superfluous. -- I'm reducing the thickness of the first planking to 1mm These changes will bring the full bulwark thickness to 3mm, which will make much more sense. Since I'm following the Goodwin book, I needed to establish the height of the bulwarks, the size of the gunports (7mm x 7mm, and the height above deck of the gunport sills. This has been a bit of a tricky business. But here's how I did it: -- I built one of the canons and a small section of false deck planking to set it on. -- I positioned the canon on deck and measured from roughly the centre of the muzzle to the top of the sub deck - this worked out to about 7mm -- I took a measurement from the Goodwin book (which is admittedly at a slightly larger scale - 1:96 - than the model - 1:100) of the bulwarks (there is no final strake, but rather the caprail rests on the frame ends and defines the top of the gunports. The total measurement was 12mm -- I figured that I would use 3mm planks for the bulwarks plus strips of 1mm wood for the interior gunport frames. This would raise the gunport opening 4mm from the subdeck and allow me to fill in the 12mm space with 4 rows of planks I probably need to double check this, which I'll do tonight, even though I've already laid the first bulwark strake. 6. laying the first plank - The plans call for the first plank (3mm x 1mm) to be laid with its bottom edge flush with the main subdeck. I didn't like this idea, so I started by laying the first plank (1mm x 5mm) with its top edge flush with the top of the sub deck. This gave me the baseline for the bulwarks, and will also define the area below that I need to line off. All that writing, then - and only 2 little photos....here they are.... I'm going to try to move slowly with the planking - I'm a little worried about how I'm going to do the area around the sweep ports...and I'm really going to need to double-check the bulwarks....in any case, what else to do but trundle on? Bye for now hamilton

Hi Harlequin: I'm already starting to drool a little. I guess I'm just happy to have something to look forward to over the summer other than yard work! As for finishing - it's such a subjective decision....fortunately it's not one that you have to make immediately.....not, at least, until you start making the cabin bulkheads....not sure how far into the build that will be, but probably some time, right? Maybe at the first opportunity for finishing a part of the model you're going to instal, try it both ways (if that's possible) and see which you like better. Anyway, have fun! I'll be watching with interest. hamilton

Hi Harlequin: I'm just about to head over to your Bellona log! Very exciting! Yes - I figured it would probably not be too visible, but thought I'd cover my bases while I still could, just in case. I've now started planking, though I've deviated from the Corel instructions by changing the thickness of the first planking to 1mm and laying the first plank so its top rather than its bottom is flush against the surface of the false deck. I'm also using 3mm planks all the way up the bulwarks. I'll make a more extensive post later to explain the process....I'm still not entirely sure how misguided it is.... hamilton

Hi Kutlu: Thanks for the kind words! I certainly hope my changes are "improvements" - right now I'm trying to wrap my mind around the bulwarks and gunports. Math is not my strong suit, which may be an argument against me pursuing this hobby at all! Anyway, I've popped in on your Berlin log - it looks great! I had thought of building it, but when I saw it was single planked I started to balk. Then I saw that there were only 4 sheets of plans and I started to wonder whether that kit has the same problems as the Greyhound...anyway, your build is coming along very nicely. hamilton

Hi Augie: I think I will leave the cabin natural wood - it will be shadowed by the quarterdeck anyway, so it won't be too "high contrast" except on close viewing. But who knows....maybe I'll change my mind once I start painting the inboard bulwarks and slosh some paint on the cabin..... hamilton

Thanks Augie! My mother-in-law's been in town for the last week so not much progress good or bad lately. Back to the bench tonight hamilton

Congratulations Harlequin!! You made it (literally and figuratively). I'm sure you've already had your celebratory libation, but please have another for me! I'll celebrate for you once we reach a more civilised hour in my part of the world. Looking forward to seeing the pictures - and of course to some more progress on the Bellona!! hamilton

In that case, Harlequin, you would feel right at home in Vancouver! We have a mini summer going on right now, but our rainy grey winter will return in May and stay through June.....here's to the promise of some kind of summer eventually hamilton

Hi Harlequin: Very impressive job on the ship's boat! Especially considering that I know what you have to start with - that weird little metal thing...Given the scale issues you were dealing with on the pof boats you tried, I may also end up reverting to the kit-supplied one.....Anyway - excellent work! It's amazing what you've done with this highly challenging kit hamilton

Beautiful work, as usual, Augie! hamilton

Alright - another update after some time. To tell the truth, I have had only a little motivation lately to work on the build - perhaps it's the nice weather here, perhaps it's the nature of this kit....who knows. Also my mother-in-law's in town, so there are family commitments that have kept me away from the "bench". Here's what I've done since last post -- added backings to the sweep ports so that I can later fix the faux sweeps in them - my son helped me paint these black -- painted the inside of the sweep frames red (I didn't have an appropriate brush so I used a toothpick - my sone helped here, too (at 2mm x 2mm, these were quite finicky and I only remembered to do it after the backing had already beed added on one side... -- installed the main deck - though I have to trim the edges, and I kind of wish I had done this while the thing was not fixed on the framework....Hopefully I can make the necessary adjustments during the fairing. -- scratch built a cabin bulkhead following Goodwin's drawing in the Blandford book - here are the stages 1. I made a template from the Goodwin book and traced the outline onto a 1/16 sheet of basswood. I then cut the basswood out and shaped it to fit between the extensions of bulkhead 12 and so that it was flush against the main and quarterdecks - I decided to fit it flush across the forward edges of the extensions and build the cabin bulkhead across both the piece I made and the extensions. 2. After dry-fitting the quarterdeck, I noticed that there was an issue with the quarterdeck ladder hatch - as you can see..... 3. The grain on the quarterdeck ply is on an angle, but the hole for the ladder hatch is also off plumb. I shimmed it at the back to compensate for the scratch-built cabin bulkhead, and then also filed it out forward a bit to keep the dimensions and straighten it out - no photo of this - sorry 4. I first fit a piece across the top to simulate a deck beam - this marks the top of the pillars, doors and panels. I made the pillars (4 in total) out of 2mm x 2mm walnut, rounding a section through the pillar and leaving a square base and head... 5. I then used .5mm x 3mm walnut cut in half (to 1.5mm width) to make the door and panel frames and 1mm x 1mm to make the molding at the bottom. You can see I've stained the bulkhead extensions, but being a different wood they're a bit contrasty. A brass nail simulates the knob...I'd run out of blacken-it, so I've left it brass. 6. I then installed the bulkhead and built up the two outboard panels after installation, since they run across the seam between the piece I made and the bulkhead extensions. I'm fine with the port side one, but you can see that the starboard side one looks very clumsy - I rushed it at a time when I was also not entirely in a modelling head space...I will have to re-do it.... Anyway, you get the impression. -- the final thing I've done is to plank the aft face of bulkhead 1. I'm not sure how much this will add to the look of the thing, but it seemed to me that the bulkhead would be visible under the forecastle - even with the half-bulkheads I plan on adding. So I thought to be safe I'd plank it - .5mm x 3mm walnut for this. So now I have a question - I'm planning on painting the inboard bulwarks red. But I had thought to leave the cabin bulkhead & half f'csl bulkheads natural wood....wondering what people's opinion on this might be....I've seen period builds that either leave all natural or paint all red, but I've not seen any that have red bulwarks and natural wood cabin bulkheads....if there are no objections, I might just go ahead...... hamilton

Hi Harlequin: I must have missed the update! Thanks for the info on the rigging line - I purchased some black rigging thread in appropriate sizes from model expo, though their line (vinyl) is not the best. Anyway, your rigging looks great - it really brings the model to life - can't wait to see some shots of the completed ship. As a suggestion - try taking a few photos outside if you get a nice blue-sky day - good for picking up details. Bye for now hamilton

Absolutely beautiful work!! And a very intriguing ship! I love the scratch work you've done. Can I ask - are the plans very detailed? hamilton

Ha ha!! you're making me anxious, Augie! If you're talking about the Syren, then it will not be so far in the future I'll be making 120 of something! Anyway - I just took a peek into your Syren build log - it seems I have to check there every day if I'm to keep up - not only with the build, but with the flurry of jokes and banter! There's a whole society in there! I'm almost afraid to post there! hamilton

Hi Robbyn: Just catching up on your build log after a long absence - wow! Great recovery from the injury and great work on the SF! Glad to see you diving into some scratch building on this build - I was much too timid to do so on my first! Also I'm glad you got that forward cannon on. My 4-year-old son made me take it off on my SF build because he was afraid someone would trip over it coming down the stairs! I've been trying to sneak it back on ever since, but he keeps catching me at it! Sheesh! hamilton

Well I've nearly finished with the sweep port framing. The frames themselves are done, but I need to install a backing for them (painted black) so that I can set the actual sweeps in later - which will be the last thing I do on the model. At 1:100 scale the sweeps will be very thin and fragile so having them sticking out as I tie ratlines and rig braces is probably a bad idea. Anyway, I have to make 36 of them, which will probably drive me crazy! If I was an intelligent person, I might do one or two here and there as I go, starting now, so I can avoid losing my mind later..... Here's a shot of the ballast port on the port side, now fully framed. The only spare stock I could find that was 4mm wide (the height of the port) was some 1mm x 4mm walnut that was meant for the second planking of the Toulonnaise (I replaced that planking and now have a good supply of this material...) Here's a couple of shots showing how I made the vertical frames - I cut 1" lengths of 1.5mm x 2mm basswood and inserted it between the horizontal frames at the lines I'd marked. I did this first for the aft side of all the frames. Then I clipped the strips and used the leftover portion to frame the forward sides of the ports.... And here's how it looked after a good sanding - the port side finished. Both sides are finished now. Next steps will be, as I mentioned, to install the backing on the ports, fair the tops of the bulkheads for the main deck, install the main deck, and then scratch build the cabin bulkhead and half bulkheads beneath the forecastle...I have been debating whether to do these bulkheads now or wait until after the bulwarks are planked......Whether I install them or not, I will be building them this week....all this framing is driving me nuts, and it'll be nice to actual make something....Anyway, thanks for reading and happy modelling hamilton

Hi Harlequin: Yes I thought this one might be wide across the beam....It might be possible to bash it to reduce this dimension, but I'm not sure I have it in me to do that....Once the "big" ship is planked up I'll build the ship's boat and have a look see....but all that seems a very long way away....I'll be happy if I can get through the sweep port framing this weekend. How's the rugby season going? hamilton

Hello all: A quick update to show the beginning of the sweep port framing. I marked the waterline along the edge of each bulkhead. The sweep ports run parallel to the waterline, so I needed to establish that first. I then (stupidly) started installing the lower and upper frames along the waterline - WRONG! I should have measured up from the waterline the total width of the wales and then marked another set of lines there parallel to the waterline marks! Eventually I figured this out, undid about 2 hours worth of work and quickly did it again....made some small progress. Here's how it looked. First, here are a couple of shots of the completed shimming. Then, here are some of the frames installed wrong.... Here is a template I made to mark the bulkheads, so I could plot out the positioning of the sweep ports and the ballast ports. The sweep ports are 2mm x 2mm and are spaced 12.5mm apart beginning just fwd of gunport 2 and continuing aft - a total of 18 on each side. The ballast port is 5mm wide x 4mm high and is situated below gunport 6 at mid-ships port and starboard. Here are a couple of close-ups of the template to show where the sweep ports and ballast ports are marked. Now all these pictures feature the poorly positioned frames. Here is a final shot where the frames have been repositioned more correctly. They still seem a shade too low, but it is honestly very difficult to try to visualise how things will look once everything is planked up....if they turn out to seem loike a disaster, I will forget about them and just plank over....Anyway, I'll post again when this process is complete. I've now completed all the lower frames on the port side and (as you see) a few of the upper ones. Still the rest of the upper frames and all the tiny little vertical frames to go and then repeat starboard....Bye for now hamilton

Hi Harlequin: I'm not so sure....I don't mind the ratlines so much - throw on a few podcasts and settle in for some clove hitches....though on this one I think there will be more ratlines than I've ever done....I did close to 1000 on the San Francisco, but I think there might be a few more than that here.....chip away, chip away hamilton

Hi Augie: Yes, indeed - it's beginning to feel like I've spent forever on the framework - and there's a lot more to go! My one worry about the POF ship's boat is that its shape might not be exactly right for the type of boat it's supposed to be (a pinnace). I might find myself modifying it, as well!! hamilton

Well I've finally finished shimming the outboard bulkheads...phew! What a lot of tedious work! I'll post some pictures later. Next comes some more niggling, but also I think more interesting work - framing the sweeps & ballast ports. Here's how I'll approach it. 1. Identify the waterline and mark it along the outside edges of the bulkheads 2. Mark a point on each bulkhead a little less than mid-way between the false lower deck and the main deck defining a line that runs parallel to the waterline (this is the location of the sweep ports, which run parallel to the waterline) 3. Install 2mm x 2mm scrap wood along that line to mark the lower edge of the sweep ports/ballast ports 4. install another set of scrap wood strips 2mm above the first set - this is the top edge of the sweeps 5. install a pair of scrap wood strips 5mm above the first set of strips at a point corresponding to and below gunport 6 - this is the ballast port 6. add small pieces of scrap wood vertically between the two horizontal strips to mark out the sweep ports which should be 2mm square 7. add small pieces of scrap wood vertically to define the ballast ports (5mm x 4mm). Once this is done, I'll fix up the tops of the bulkheads and install the main deck. Then it's time for some serious fairing!! Good night to all hamilton

Hi there: So in looking through Goodwin's Anatomy of the Ship HMS Blandford, I've found a couple of clues (in different places) as to how to mount the ship's boat. Goodwin has an illustration on page 63 which shows the main sheet bitts fitted with a gallows. This resolves the aft mounting. Then on page 27, in the section with the photographic plates, there is a picture of a model from the NMM of a 20-gun 6th rate which is fitted with a gallows just forward of the fore hatch. Good thing I read the caption! hamilton

I'm with Augie on this - in the past I've often given up updating my build log when it comes to the rigging simply because I can't seem to get decent shots! I'll have to try this technique - it's looking great. By the way - I notice that you've got black standing rigging, though Corel only supplies hemp line....did you dye their line or did you replace it? If you replaced it, what did you use? I ended up ordering some of the usual Model Expo rigging line - not the best looking but easy to work with...I think that when I build the Bellona I'll order Morope to replace Corel's line - though I do like the Corel rigging line...... Anyway, looks like you're almost there! Looking great! hamilton

Hi B.E.: Thanks for the comment! Yes, this kit does beg for a good bashing. So far it's felt like most of the bashing has been my head against the wall! But with Goodwin's Anatomy of the Ship Blandford as a guide, I'm going to try to modify this kit quite a bit - as mentioned before, adding open bulwarks, adding sweep ports and sweeps, adjusting the belfry and f'csl rail, adding ladders to the f'csl, adjusting the rigging and belaying arrangement, etc. One thing that's been plaguing me is how to mount the ship's boat (which I'm also replacing with a 3.5" plank-on-frame boat from ME). Corel shows the boat mounted aft on a gallows bit and fwd on the base of the belfry, which is centred on the f'csl rail. But Goodwin shows the belfry off centre, which means that the forward positioning suggested by Corel is not going to work for me. Goodwin's book provided the solution - he shows the main sheet bits (which are not really included in Corel's kit at all but replaced by the gallows) fitted with a gallows up top. And then in the section of photographs, there is an example of an early model of a 20-gun 6th rate that has a gallows fitted forward (just in front of the forward hatch). So I'll be adding this as well.... Anyway, that's all for the future. After I finish shimming, the real bashing will begin - I'll frame out the sweep ports (2mm x 2mm - which will be quite tricky) and the 2 ballast ports (5mm x 4mm), fair the whole thing, and then start the first planking & building up the open bulwarks and re-doing the gunport frames....yikes! What have I got myself into! hamilton

Hi Augie: Thanks for stopping by! Yes there will be a lot of fairing to do - you probably noticed that the shimming on bulkheads 9 & 10 appears in the photo to be a little dippy...in reality it's not as bad as it looks on camera - it's just the angle. However, I've been rough fairing the bulkheads at the same time as I'm shimming so that I can try to get as accurate a run of planks as possible. The real fairing will begin after I install the deck, which needs some minor adjustments to the outboard edge in order for the planks to run smoothly. This is undoubtedly the most extended and tedious framework assembly I've yet done on a kit - though I imagine there are worse cases out there.... hamilton