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Lots of good info on this site. Go to the different sections and find the planking section. Since I’m not familiar with your particular model, I can’t suggest a pattern but typically a 3 or 4 shift pattern is good to work with. As VT mentioned, here is the tools to start with:
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That depends on you! How much work do you want to do? Planks from that time period we’re rarely over 25 feet long… some maybe up to 30 feet but rarely over. Planking to historical accuracy will include splice patterns too. Let me know if I can help further!
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The grating kits from Syren Model Ship Company are simply the best! And quick to be delivered too. I purchased the jig sometime back but rarely used it because the gratings in a lot of kits are okay with a little work. A.L.'s pieces are bad and so is the capstan piece... more on that in a bit. Here is the grating being assembled: Once all the pieces are in place I brushed some diluted wood glue over it and waited for it to dry before prying it out of the jig. Assembly of the edge pieces was simple enough and with some light sanding to be done before placement, here is the result: The capstan in the above picture is a prefabbed piece that came with the kit and is NOTHING like the capstan in the "Anatomy" book. So, in the interest of accuracy, I am changing it to closely resemble the one in the book. It had no holes for the bars and it had a domed top. The top is nearly flat in the book. I used my mini mill to do the holes and am happy with the results: The top will have the bolt pattern added and what appears to be a center rod cap. Additionally, the pieces that run vertically will be patterned like this: Lots of work ahead!
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Bowsprit mount is in place: Still need to do some weathering and aging on several pieces but am waiting to get a few more things mounted in place. Some of the gratings are on the agenda but the stuff in the kit sucks! This is terrible: So, I ordered some replacement pieces from Syren Model Ship Company. There’s plenty of other things to work on while I wait! Ropes to be made and tenders to be assembled! For now, I’m off on the big boat for a couple days!
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One of the nice things about the Proxxon lathe is that a hole runs through one of the stocks and out of the unit. It can be very handy for longer stocks. I love mine!
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The rudder was an exercise in futility! But it's installed. Drilling the hole to proper size was no problem, I used several drills and two different pin vises (one small and one large) to drill out the hole for the rudder head... The hard part was get the alignment right, as noted in my previous post, I used a brass rod as a guide. The results were good but not excellent. I had to do some round file work through the main deck to get the alignment just right with no binding: Unfortunately, I have that little chip that broke loose at some point, looks worse than it is in the picture! Earlier in the build, I increased the stern post in width to make a better finish for the planking. This made things a bit more difficult to shape the hinge pieces. Additionally, I decided to install the pins into the rudder: I am disappointed that Artesania Latina used different metals in the kit. Check out the top band (for the chain) and the hinges: Two different metals blackened... and to add insult to injury, their included "brass" nails are, in fact, iron nails. I could not get them to blacken, at all and they are magnetic! I tried sanding the "brass" coating and had some success. I also, began the distressing process on the rudder and stern post. Still need to add rust stains: Working getting start on the bowsprit mount and deck fixtures: I need to start making rope too. Lots of rope! I won't be using the thread supplied in the kit. More coming soon!
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Hey Dave, Good start! I don't know this particular model but I think the garboard should run the entire length of the keel. The area below the garboard and above the keel should have planking. As a side note, I almost always install the keel before planking. I cut a rabbit into the keel that the garboard fits into. Keep plugging away!
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Continuing on with some work in the stern area... I think Artesania Latina could've done better with the layout of this work and the needless cutting of planks... The stern stanchions were first up. Cut to size and wrapped with an aged brass strap and aged pins. As mentioned above, I had to cut a hole in the planking to attach it to the hull. I decided to drill a hole and round of the corners of the piece and fit it to the drilled hole: Same thing done to the port side. The next step is to install the rudder and attach it to the stern post. Installing the rudder requires a 6mm hole to be cut from the transom through the lower deck and through a pre-made hole in the main deck. I had some apprehension over the "hole" work! I spoke to Tim Moore (he recently completed the same model... really good!) and received some good advise. Thanks Tim! I drilled a small hole for about where the center of the rudder post would pass through the transom and used a brass rod to check the alignment. I was off by about 5-6mm... so, leaving the brass rod (still in place) as a guide, I drilled from the top down, being vigilant about adjusting the drill to the angle of the rod to correct the hole placement. Came out almost perfect! I need to purchase a larger pin vise to increase the size of the drill bits, a little at a time. It will be here on Saturday! The rudder post rounded and ready for installation: On to the garden windows. These pewter pieces needed some castings ground flat and then painted. I chose to use the colors from one of the pictures posted earlier in my log: Cutting the holes in the sides, again, seemed to me that it could have been done during the planking, it was not fun cutting these holes! And then installing the pieces: I also cut the slots for rigging to pass through later in the build. Hopefully, I have the rudder installed by my next update. I'm also working on some of the bow deck fixtures.
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Agree on the Bligh comments... a brilliant navigator though! I'll check out the other book, always enjoy knowing as much as possible about the current project. The Antarctica expeditions are of interest too. I built the HMS Terror a while back... similar backgrounds, but very different! I'd love to see a picture of the iron ballast! I'm using black stone to simulate the ballast on my rendition.
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Thanks Joe... Short of information that can be authenticated (as you probably know), I've made some assumptions for the time period and origination of the Bounty. And I agree, she could've been blue, but I doubt it. Have you read Mutiny on the Bounty by Peter FitzSimmons? An excellent book and a source for some information too. Appreciate you stopping in!
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Finished the mount! Changed my mind on the wood... Used Zebra wood instead of Walnut: 3 coats of linseed oil and felt pads added: I installed a brass rod on each support that slips into the keel to keep the Bounty from moving. It also saves the wiring from undue wear and tear: The wires will run through a channel on the bottom of the main strut. I've ordered 2 quick disconnects that I will connect to the Bounty wiring and fit into the mounts for easier removal from the mount when needed: Finished: Back to the stern and rudder areas!
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Done with the head rails... tedious work! Little tiny pieces of 1.5mm square stock. I used walnut for the main rails and basswood for the smaller rails. Most pictures or paintings show the head rails to be white... a compromise! And at the end, my measurements were a bit off but overall looks good and once everything is place, it will be unnoticeable. I did end up changing the lay-out a bit to ensure less problems when rigging the bowsprit later on: At this point, I need to make a mount for the ship. It is getting difficult to work with my current holder and I want to get the wiring tucked away. I have been looking for the right mount for her and I ran across this earlier today: I really like it and I think it will be perfect for the Bounty. I will make two cradles and not use the pedestals. I'm going to make it from walnut. I found a good piece at a local store and will pick it up tomorrow. I don't plan to add it to my build log since there is a video of it already unless some of you think it's worth me adding it... let me know what you think! Thanks for looking in on the log.
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A batten is a good method too. If you do soak a piece of wood, never install it until it's completed dried. What Glenn mentioned is accurate! I've installed a few that were not completely dry and ended up removing it because it shrunk! DO that half hull project, you'll learn a lot!
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Hi Dave, Hard to tell from the pictures but it appears your fairing of the bulkheads may need a little more work. When I'm fairing, I use a string and run it from bow to stern. The string should lay flat on every bulkhead or frame. If it doesn't, more sanding is required. Also, if it doesn't touch a frame, you may need to reduce the amount on the frames on either side or or add a small strip to the offending frame and re-sand it. You mention the "twist" at the bow and stern. As you've already found, there are a million different methods to deal with it. Chuck P.'s method is a really good one to use but whatever method you choose, stick with it! I soak my pieces prior to heating and bending/twisting, I find it easier for me. One more suggestion... I know you're "going for it" on the Lady Nelson. However, NRG sell a great teaching tool (and a fine model) for planking. It's called the "Half-hull project". I highly recommend it! It made my life so much easier when planking! It's inexpensive and can be assembled in a few weeks, depending on how much you work per day! I've attached a picture of mine! It also, gives you a small taste of scratch building. Some of the principles are hard to apply to kit materials since they are pre-cut but I think it will help you develop your own method. Good luck!
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