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Spent some time on the  jib sail tonight.
 
Rob

So, what will you do when you hear the phrases "you build model boats don't you? Call this guy. he has money" again? My instinct would be-run!
 
Thanks for sharing this Floyd. It's been fun and interesting to hear the progress and see your work up close.
 
Harvey

So, what will you do when you hear the phrases "you build model boats don't you? Call this guy. he has money" again? My instinct would be-run!
 
Thanks for sharing this Floyd. It's been fun and interesting to hear the progress and see your work up close.
 
Harvey

So, what will you do when you hear the phrases "you build model boats don't you? Call this guy. he has money" again? My instinct would be-run!
 
Thanks for sharing this Floyd. It's been fun and interesting to hear the progress and see your work up close.
 
Harvey

Yes it is kinda like when the doctor says "this won't hurt at all"

So, what will you do when you hear the phrases "you build model boats don't you? Call this guy. he has money" again? My instinct would be-run!
 
Thanks for sharing this Floyd. It's been fun and interesting to hear the progress and see your work up close.
 
Harvey

So, what will you do when you hear the phrases "you build model boats don't you? Call this guy. he has money" again? My instinct would be-run!
 
Thanks for sharing this Floyd. It's been fun and interesting to hear the progress and see your work up close.
 
Harvey

So, what will you do when you hear the phrases "you build model boats don't you? Call this guy. he has money" again? My instinct would be-run!
 
Thanks for sharing this Floyd. It's been fun and interesting to hear the progress and see your work up close.
 
Harvey

Ok let me take a moment to tell you about the program that will be using this model in the classroom. The school is located in Astoria, Oregon. They have 120 students in the Maritime program. There are 18 instructors. The kids must be under the age of 26 and underprivileged. They have to meet an income requirement. That is family income below a certain level. They come from all over the US. They live on campus and the program consists of 18 months of classroom and 6 months of experience. At the end of the training. They must pass a few exams. If they complete the program and get a passing grade. They get certified by the US Coast Guard and Union membership. The Union takes on the responsibility of finding a job. Currently everyone who completes the program finds a job.
 
One of the critical tests is Rules of the Road. The student must be able to look at the model,read the lights, and tell you what they stand for. He/She must also know the dispersion angle of all the lights. So my challenge is to get it right when I build the model. I don't want a student to fail just because I screwed up.
 
Besides the learning that I am doing for this project. It is nice to know that all this work is going for a good cause.

Here are some more images of the stays and heart/lanyard rigging.

Now I'm going to focus on the remaining head gear , spider stays...and the jib stays.
I figured since the fore backstays were installed I might as well counter all that action by adding the jib stays and all the jib sails and their halyards and downhauls and associated blocks...finish up the bow...then move aft.
 
Here we goooooooo.......

Coupled with the head gear stay chains I also added the final backstays to the fore mast

Worked on the GR for a bit....by adding the chain stays on the head gear.

My back is much better today, just in time for our club meeting tomorrow at Lee Valley Tools in Niagara Falls.
I wonder if I'll find any new toys there this time?
 
After pondering on it a while (and watching Kenny's video again) I decided on a method to sand the 3'-5" diameter bowsprit clearance hole in the stem post head and bollard frames.   I over thought it, trying to be more accurate I realised I over thought it and my method didn't work so well so it was abandoned mid stream... as will be explained.
 
First I had to determine the angle of the bowsprit and so brought out my trusty parallel ruler and a protractor.  I found the angle was 30°.
 
I was going to sand a taper on a dowel from a diameter under the width of the stem post to the finished diameter so I could rotate and feed the sanding plug through the assembly of bollard frames and stem post but in the end I decided to use an undersized dowel and wrap/wood glue a layer of sand paper to it.   Next I layed out a scrap block of wood, drill a hole for the dowel at 30° and clamped this to the table.  I thought I'd slip the dowel into the block which would help me maintain the angle, rotate the dowel/sand paper and sand the profile into the head of the stem post.  The bollard frames were pinned through to each other near their foot so they could rotate.  A clamp located near the top acted as a stopper so they would rest against it in the exact proper location when rotated forward.  I could then open these up and holding/pinching with my fingers while rotating the dowel I'd cut the shape into everything.
 
Well that didn't work.  My finger pinching idea was not adequate... I needed gorilla fingers to hold it.  The rotating of the sanding stick did not work as it gripped the stem post and caused it to twist the whole frame.  I did manage to start a profile in the head of the stem post but it would wander.
 
I abandoned the angle guide block and sanded with an in/out or forward/aft motion and this work well but I could not see if I was centred on the stem post head.  I took an HB pencil and coloured the top of the post with graphite to darken it.  As I sanded away the wood and graphite I could see the pencil mark width remaining and determine I was indeed on centre.
 
I then swung one bollard post up and pinching the one I was able to start a groove in it at the proper angle.  I marked the head of the stem post location onto the bollard frame and sanded it off the model and on the work bench.  I repeated this for the sister frame.
 
I then glued a second layer of sand paper to the stick over top of the first to increase the diameter., then repeated the sanding operation.  Finally I glued a third layer and after the third sanding routine I was done.
 
Following are some photos.  The bollard frames are presently glued, pinned and clamped in place.
 

About the model:
As they say, "No time like the present" and as I'm stalled on Licorne by several non-hobby issues, I'm starting this one to take my mind off things.  I have the plans scaled down from 1:48 to 1:64 I'll be drafting plans for building the ship as the ANCRE monograph doesn't have drawings pre-made for such things a frames, keel, etc.
 
As the title states it will be a POB build as there's next to nothing in the plans of the below deck area. 
 
I'm making decisions at this point will working on lofting the bulkheads, keel, etc. on the types of woods.  Most likely I'll Swiss pear for the external planking, some ebony or ebony stained wood for the wales and other bits and pieces, boxwood for the keel, stern post, and bowspit.  Not sure yet about the decks.   As for the bulkheads and some internal bits that won't be seen, I'm deciding whether to use Baltic Birch plywood or Yellow Ceder.  It may come down to cost on this though.  I'll be using the DeathStar for at least marking the wood to be cut for the bulkheads but not ruling out cutting as that will depend on the wood selection.
 
I selected this ship as "next" as it was the more famous of the ships involved in the battle that brought the French into American Revolutionary War.   
 
Here's the history of Belle Poule and some pictures of the plans and the monograph.
 
La Belle Poule is a 12-pounder class of frigate with 26 12-pdrs on the gun deck and 10 6-pdrs on the forecastle and sterncastle.   
 
History:
 
La Belle Poule was built in the shipyard at Bordeaux starting in 1765 and launched in 1767.  \
 
From 1772 to 1776, she was on hydrographic missions around India.
 
She returned to Brest in 1776 .  At the time, France wasn't engaged in War, but there were numerous incidents.  
 
April, 1777, Belle Poule was chased by a British ship of the line (unknown which one) and after evading her, returned to Brest.
 
December, 1777, Belle Poule transported Silas Deane back to America along with the news of the French-American Alliance.
 
On 7 January, 1778, she was stopped by two Britich ships of the line which demanded to inspect her and her Captian, Charles de Bernard de Marigny replied:  "I am the Belle Poule, frigate of the King of France; I sail from sea and I sail to sea. Vessels of the King, my master, never allow inspections."
 
17 June, 1778.   The famous battle between Belle Poule and Arethusa occurred which was actually celebrated by both countries.  It was this battle that brought France into the American Revolutionary War.  Note that Licorne was captured by the British.
 
After this battle, she did numerous patrols.
 
14 July 1780.   Belle Poule was overhauled and after a two hour battle with Noncuch (64), she surrendered.
 
Feburary, 1781.  Belle Poule was commissioned by the British.   She participated in the Battle of Dogger Bank later that year.  A footnote is that her Master during this period was William Bligh.
 
November 1782.  Belle Poule went to ordinary and also served as a British recieving ship.  
 
1801.  She was sold off.
 
Plans, etc.
 
I'm using the following references:
 
Le Belle Poule Monograh by Boudriot and Berti
The Art of Ship Modeling by Frolich
and lastly, the only build log I could find that actually is showing the process unlike most that just show the finished ship:  https://5500.forumactif.org/t3216-la-belle-poule-de-1765-au-1-48-par-guydal
 
Anyway, a bit long winded but I'll be back when I have my cut sheets, plans, etc. ready and start making sawdust.
 

Thanks for the support.  
 
The idea of a second build is working.  I finally got my head wrapped around how to convert the plans to wood as basically it's just the equivalent of Navy Board drawings.   After staring the light finally turned on.   I'll be opening a build log once I get into sorting out my method...  POB, POF, POB with balsa fillers?  Decisions, decisions. 
 
The stress hasn't subsided but it's manageable at this point.  So I'll be continuing on Licorne while lofting what I need for Belle Poule.   

Young America - extreme clipper 1853
Part 319 – Running Rigging Continued
 
I keep looking at the model and thinking that it doesn't look a lot different than it did last month - considering the amount of time being spent on it.  All these pictures were taken today after a fairly major cleanup of the work area.  The first picture shows most of the model.
 
 
 
In the picture the rigging of the foremast is essentially finished except for the lower braces which are deferred for access reasons.  On the main mast all the lines are run and belayed at least initially, again except for braces.  The mizzen still lacks its four upper yards but these have been made and are ready for rigging.
 
The next picture shows the fore course sheets that were installed this week.
 
 
 
Again, these were deferred until now to permit access.  These large, 5" lines run from a shackled eyebolt on the outside of the sheer rail, then forward and up through the large block ganged with the clue garnet block, the tack and the lazy tack.  Finally they pass back through a bulwark sheave and are belayed to cleats on the deck.  The next picture may be clearer.
 

 
Without sails, the lines drape across the lower shrouds.  The tacks are the lines running forward to cleats on the catheads.  The lazy tacks angle aft and belay on the first pin on the main rack rails.  These were used to control the tack of the sail when the yard was being braced around – between the casting off of the sheet and the belaying of the tack – or vice versa.  The starboard tack may be seen belayed to its cleat on the cathead in the next picture.
 

 
This picture also shows the new lashing between the bullseyes on the martingale stay where it is shackled to the cathead.  This outer bowsprit standing rigging suffered damage during nearby work.  It should have been deferred.  The jibboom guys are still scheduled for replacement.
 
Further aloft, work on the fore upper yard braces has progressed.  The next picture shows the topgallant brace tackles between yard and stay pendants.
 
 
 
Tension on these will be relieved to normalize the stay.  Below this, the fore upper topsail braces have been run except for the falls, which are delayed to permit access to belaying points below.
 
The main spencer gaff has finally been mounted and rigged and is shown in the next picture.
 
 
 
 
The rigging on these consist of one standing lift and two vang pendants with tackles.  The tackles and belaying points on the side rails are out of this picture.
 
Rigging of the fore braces gets complex at the heads of the stays as seen in the next picture.
 
 
 
The tackle falls run through blocks seized to the stay then through blocks on the shrouds to direct them downwards without fouling.  Two sets of braces attach to this stay.  One level up it gets even more congested with the two upper sets of braces as well as the staysail halyard block.
 

 
Finally another view of the full model.
 

 
The two broken jibboom guy chains may be seen dangling from the boom waiting for replacement in this picture.
 
Approaching endgame.
 
Ed

How much did you get Rob? We got about 16-18".
 
We're lucky that we never lost power. A lot of people (including you) have been less lucky.
 
So, you've been watching TV by candle light??🤣

I used to have a vise like that too. I don't know why I got rid of it . . .
 
Harvey

The Belle Poule plans are at the printshop being reduced to the size I need.  Once I get them back and examine how I'll build her (bulkhead or frames) I'll start a log.   Nothing like having two ships in the stocks.

Fig-170- the complete project, together with the tool set, required to create it - and a most rewarding one.

Fig-163- All fitted and ready to go. - view of the font of the Wallace & Sons Bulge Pump as originally fitted the the Falls of Clyde.

Hi everyone,
 
I apologize for not answering these recent many great comments. We traveled to Virginia and North Carolina this last week, and I forgot to take my password for the website; I could read the comments on my phone, but not post!
 
I will address these in the morning, and also post a couple of interesting things I saw at the Mariner's Museum in Newport News, as well as at Colonial Williamsburg.
 
Mark
 
 

Once again, love those sails. That's how I like sails on a ship model, she looks like she's going to shoot off the end of the workbench at any second. Maybe you should drop a few taut anchors from her to the model base, to help explain to viewers what's stopping her from busting out of her display case.

I have a 6000watt generator so I powered up the freezers and the fridge and also the TV.  I was able to get power to the coffee maker and microwave...but nothing else.  I also have lots of oil lamps which lit the house and gas stoves.
No internet...no hot water...and worse...no exiting the hill drive to/from the house.
 
I'm back to work today after shoveling my way out of the drive.  I have a Jeep, but my sweetheart is still stuck and can't get her car out.
 
I do hope to get back to the GR on Saturday....I'll have a few hours then...I hope.
 
We had 18~20 inches....my wife has lived hear her entire life and has never seen this much snow...and it lingering so long.
 
Good day everyone.
 
Rob