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Hi Bill I don't think there is a lot of difference length wise but the Wasa maybe a couple cm smaller width wise.
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Hi Bill, that's good, The Airfix Wasa has a 1:144 scale albeit as I said before these scales are not historically accurate as these Airfix tall ship boxes are all the same size more or less. There is a Prince on ebay but very expensive at £69.95 someone trying to take advantage of its rarity I think. Yes I paid full rep price for the Soleil Royal and Hms Victory both £159 each,but brand new, even pre owned ones go for about £130+ so there is little point in that incase something is missing or broken, these kits are well sought after, the Victory I got, the seller had 3 brand new and I kid you nor these went within 20mins of being posted. Not sure if I have anything for my Christmas that I really want, may just get myself a Zvezda or Heller kit i dont have but nothing expensive, not that i need anymore atm.
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Hi Bill I forgot to add there is actually another 2 kits to this stash that Airfix Endeavour and Zvezda Conquistador "San Gabriel" which is actually a rebox of Revell's Vasco da gama's Nau San Gabriel. For some reason I do not have a photo of the Endeavour on my phone atm.
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Hi Bill, as you can see there is a couple of doubles, like the Heller Royal Louis, the reason for this one was because I had to write on of them off, as it came with 2 right hand Hulls and the Company never replaced or refunded myself,, and Heller never replied to my emails, I have also seen that this has happened on a few occasions with this particular kit for some reason ? Also the Heller and Zvezda Hms Elizabethan are both the same kit unbeknown to myself at the time, I also thought they were of different size which they weren't, I guess you live and learn, however they did not cost much, so not so out of pocket.
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Hi Bill the ones I quoted to you and a few more I do have in the house but are unbuilt atm, I have bought them when the became available as some are hard to get now. This is my stash that I work from.
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Hi Bill, No I haven't built all your ships you referred to. I have never bought the Cutty Sark as it just didn't do anything for me, albeit the starter pack I did was a stocking filler last xmas. The Uss constitution I do not have as I can't get hold of the 1:96 scale one, I do however have the 1:96 USS United states but unbuilt atm. The Heller Victory I have too unbuilt as I have just purchased it and of course I have built the Golden Hind. Of the ones I have mentioned I have built a couple a long time ago when I was young, but now lost, a few of the kits I couldn't get for one reason or another when I was young like Hms Prince and the Wasa but have now been able to purchase this last year. I am only just bk building kits this last 6months as covid hit and I was laid off, its been 40yrs or so since I last built kits so at the moment I have 3 built, English Man O'war, Golden Hind and Cutty Sark starter kit and the " Santa Catarina Do Monte Sinai" is my work in progress, so that's kinda 4. Not sure which kit will be up next think it might be a Heller French one time will tell mate. Yes Space is a problem atm we have a spare room full of granddaughters toys, but this will become available in time, so its steady as you go here with builds albeit I have shelving in to take care of anything just now.
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Hi Bill, here is also a picture of my Airfix 1:72 Golden Hind and small Cutty Sark starter kit against my English Man O'war I was building at the time. As you can see although the Golden Hind is half the size, it is still big enough to make a very represntable kit.
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On the topic of Scale Bill, here is the kit I am working on just now, the Santa Catarina Do Monte Sinai a 54yr old kit next to my English Man O'war which I completed as I say, it's not about size, but the Architecture for me.
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Hi Bill The Heller Royal louis is quoted at 48cm finished La Sirene is quoted at 43cm The Airfix kits around the same up and to 46cm. The biggest ones are Revell Spanish Galleon which is the same size as the Man O'war and the 2 big Heller ones, Soleil Royal is quoted at 77cm While the Victory is the largest at 110cm. Thing is with most of the kits listed that even though there are a lot of scale differences it doesn't mean a lot as most were made to fit the boxes which are actually the same size(Airfix that is) so scale isnt really historically accurate. It's just a pity these kits weren't made larger they would have been awesome to build, taking nothing away from them though I think they are still quality kits like I said it's not all about size for me but architecturally it has to be very good and well moulded.
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Hi Bosco, Regards your glue for rigging I had the same problem a long time ago until I discovered this, I swear by it, it is ideal for rigging and any sort of material, especially where it is very intricate. I have used it ever since.
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Hi Bill, most of these you can get of ebay, some are rarer than others but you can save a search and set and alert to anyone that get listed asap. As for Scale Heller Soleil Royal 1:100 Victory 1:100 Heller Royal Louis 1:200 La Sirene 1:150 Airfix HMS Prince 1:144 Wasa 1:144 St Louis 1:144 Royal Sovereign 1:168 Revell Spanish Galleon 1:96 I would say Scale Preferability depends on how much detail you want on your ship. Of course the bigger the kit the easier to a certain extent it is to carry out rigging etc.. But alas most of these kits are only available in these scale sizes unless you want to build wooden ones. I would say that although there are different scale sizes that most of the Heller and Airfix ones are roughly the same size but still very workable without being overly difficult, albeit with the amount of architectural features it will test your painting skills to the limit. And the exception of course of The Victory, Soleil Royal and Spanish Galleon being much larger kits.
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Hi Bill, Depending on the size of the kit with cracking Architectural features, the biggest one that Springs to mind is Heller's Soleil Royal, other than that also Heller's Royal Louis or La Sirene, all of which I have in my stash, these becoming more scarce though in the current climate. Outwith Heller I would definitely Recommend Airfix's Hms Prince, Wasa or St Louis or Royal Sovereign albeit the Sovereigns Hull detail is not great but it still has great Architectural features. I would have said "The Revenge" also but it is not so different from the English Man O'war build albeit smaller of course. All of these again I have in my stash and to build list. Revell wise I think we are quite limited in ships with great architectural features, Apart from the EMO'war there is of course the same kit nearly in the Spanish Galleon, or we have their version of the Wasa(Vasa) or Pirate ship which has been reboxed as the Black pearl with slight architectural changes, outwith architectural features there are other others the same as Airfix like the Bounty and the Mayflower both of which I have in Airfix and the Revell Spanish Galleon. There is of course HMS Victory Airfix and Revell but I have heard numerous complaints about the mouldings on both kits and I remember I had trouble with one when I was 12yrs old. So I guess it you do a Victory, Heller's 1:100 is the only way to go which I too managed to pick up only 2 weeks ago. I f your looking for a slightly smaller kit out of the list I have quoted I would go for "Hms Prince" it is again very hard to find though. I have gave you a few photos below to wett your appetite mate.
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That Mizzen looks a lot better now Bill, regards the premolars I guess you were just getting your teeth into it, sorry I'll get my jacket 😉
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Hi Bill, wow beautiful displays wish I had cases like them, very expensive here if you need to buy them, especially for large kits. The English Man O'war is nearly Double the size of the Airfix Golden Hind. The Hind when fully built Measures about 46cm in length and about 40cm in height, whear as the Man O'war is 75cm in length and 64cm in height when fully built. Not sure how accurate the Scales illustrated on the boxes are, but I do know that most of the Airfix classic tall ships range were mostly scaled to fit the boxes as most the boxes are the same size. The Special edition Golden Hind comes with a loom to make your ratlines/shrouds with, other than that i am not sure of the difference between these two types of Hind. I can vouch though that the Airfix Hind is definitely one of the better models and builds pretty well with little or no flash to trim, and looks bigger than the measurements suggest when finished, definitely one of Airfix Quality kits.
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Nice one Bill, that looks a lot better. On the subject of the Golden Hind, the one you've posted isn't the Special edition,this is the Special edition.
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On the question of your Mizzen mast, I think that's is leaning too far backwards mate, does lean backwards but not as much as that, I remember I had a slight problem installing this through the upper deck and into the hole in the deck below that you can't see, a little perseverance and I got it aligned ok, just make sure yours is allingned right mate.
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Hi Bill, Yes mines is the Airfix 1:72 scale, but the Special edition so I dont know if it had more parts in it or not?
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Just as good as anything else mate, no point in complicating things, if something is tried and trusted then stick by it, unless certain circumstances need change.
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No probs Bill, anytime you need to ask you know where I am 👍
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Hi Louie thanks for that and the photos. Regards to the kit there is No part in the instructions to cover the front of the fore castle. So it maybe something I will try and look into further. Regards the Sails I will probably just use the fabric I usually do re my English man o'war in which I used a cream coloured pillowcase.
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Really not sure if I could do or pull off paper sails, especially if I go down the route of the doubled main and forsails, I feel a lot mor comfortable with fabric as well as it looking a lot more authentic and less chance of getting damaged. However I haven't decided yet which way to go on either Sail or Yard will worry about that when the time comes. Thanks again for the Informative link Louie much appreciated mate 👍
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Still a lot of work to be done, but for a 54yr old kit and 140 Cannons when finished, its coming together. Pyro 1:144 "SANTA CATARINA DO MONTE SINAI"
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Hi Bill, First of all 1,2&3 threads are a continuation to be rigged through a triple hole block and tied back into the bowsprit. No4, is the same thread through a block making a triangular shape again tied bk onto the bowsprit. No5 thread is attached to the other end of the block in No4 and will eventually be rigged to the 2nd crows nest on the foremast and has nothing to do with Nos1,2 or3. Btw, there are another 2 triple holed blocks to get rigged the same way for the fore and main mast standing rigging. Have gave you the 2 photos to see work in progress and finished example.
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Good afternoon Bill, Yes that is correct my friend, same can be slightly said for the main mast too, however the Mizzen and Bonaventure masts slant in the opposite direction, I was concerned about these too when building the kit, but I think it's to do with the rigging and obviously the height of the quarter deck and balance of the ship, in the end it all looks finished ok. I see you have more or less went with paintwork within the instructions, looking good my friend.
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Thanks for that link Louie, very informative. Its definitely something I am going to take into consideration, I was thinking about extending the length of the Main sail anyway, and slightly shortening the height to make it look more rectangular rather than square like the kit moulded ones. I will obviously need to do a few measurement calculations as I have to watch that my kit doesn't become Top heavy as it's a very small plastic kit with the hull only measuring 26cm, so compared to Woodrats Wooden kit, he's had a lot more scope and a much bigger and stronger carrack play about with big improvisations. As for the double main yard, it is also something I will look at, although it is not entirely clear in the painting Joachim Patinir of the SCDMS had a double main yard, but I can obviously see why it might have done.
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