NAZGÛL
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Thanks Wayne, i hope so! If only I had those small builders helping out. /Matti -
Oh, those little guys are doing a great job!
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I have a busy time at work atm, but had time for some hull planking. Some planks needs some interesting curves. Some pics of how shes looking now and a pic of Vasas bow, the look Im trying to get on the model. /Matti
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Well done! Youre making her your own.
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Looking good, thanks for sharing! /Matti
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Great job! Looking forward to new updates on this beauty! /Matti
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First of all Im sorry to hear that he passed away. I really like your idea to continue his build! I would have tried to keep as much of his planks as possible as it makes both involved in the result. Keep us updated. /Matti
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Buck, you can use oil colors for filtering/washes/effects also. It looks very natural and nice. But I rarely do it. Imo its to slow and smelly. Im not sure how it would work on wood either. I find pastels and and acrylics in many layers give me best controle. This is only preference but thats whats great with the model hobby. You can go many routes to get the look you want. There are great tutorials on youtube etc for the painting techniques, mostly military models, but it works the same. Experiment on planks first as the wood is pretty unforgiving! You worked on guitars, so Im sure you know this area better than me. Yeah, I also considered the current look. She really looks impressive today and that would be great fun to paint. A lot of work but you wouldnt have to worry about those figures and detail painting instead. It would be cool to see you do it! /Matti Edit: Did another step on on the the stern: Dry brushing . I mixed a light grey. Wet the brush and then take nearly all the paint off the brush with some paper (very important! practice first on test planks or paper). Then with light strokes go over the areas you want to give a used or worn look. Careful to not overdo it, wich is easy to do. I snapped a pic showing the effect. Its more subtle in real life.
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Ok Buck, my painting steps. I guess I work with pretty standard styrene model painting techniques: preshading, washes, filters and weathering with pastels. Sorry if Im stating obvious stuff. Im sure there are different ways to do it, but these are the tools I have from previous painting. Im new to do this on wood and it reacts different. Mainly it absorbs the washes and its harder to control the effects. If I mess up its also harder to do anything about it. On styrene you can always redo it over and over again. 1. First I used whats called betsning in swedish and I think you call it stain? This was new to me. I bought 3 nuanses of oak. I had to test with different kind of water/powder ratio to get a good mix that looked ok on test planks. I then applied it differently on different planks. Misstake 1: I had an idea that prepainting some planks with washes of brown acrylics would give different plank colors. The acrylics made the stain turn to slightly yellow (yuck) Misstake 2: I thought I managed to remove the wood glue on the surface, but I missed some at one or two spots. And while they couldnt be seen earlier, after the stain they turned yellow (double yuck). The mistakes didnt matter much though, as they would be covered by the later paint stages. 2. Shading. I painted the areas that I wanted darker with dark/black acrylics. Some on the lower edge salso for adding depht to the curves. 3. Some gentle sanding on the surface to make the painting merge and give a realistic worn look. 4. Pastels. I chose pastel crayons in good nuances and crushed them into a powder. Some brown nuances and also red for adding some life to the look. Then add it to the planks and areas you like with a cotton bud. After getting the planks the way I liked, I did a filter effect all over the area to get it more uniform. I get good controle of the look and tone of the paint by doing this It also blended the previous shading areas. 5. A coat of flat varnish. I chose to not use the airbrush, as I didnt want any of it to end up on areas I will later stain (yay I learned from my misstake). 6. Gentle sanding again. I plan to do this area by area on the ship to get control. After its all painted, Ill go over it again with pastels and washes for a final touch. Phew, that was hard to explain in english. Hope it was at least partly understandable. /Matti
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Buck, got friends coming over, but Ill explain later. Did some of noob mistakes as Ive never stained before...
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Thats a great find, looking forward to follow your build of it! Painted the lover stern to give the project a boost. First I stained in 2 oak mixes. Then acrylics for some nuances and shading. Then pastels in 3 browns and red, Finally a coat of flat varnish bounding the pastels and giving it a good surface. Cheers /Matti
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Thanks for the info Mark! /Matti
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Oh, I never doubted you did it right. Im just interested in the ways these ships were done. /Matti
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Id love to see that Golden Hind getting built next. Looking at your pics, I think you are underestimating your skills. Myself I can only build what I feel strong passion for, so I cant really chose whats next. /Matti
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Ferit, Im really starting to like the Berlin. I was looking at pics on the model and notice the inside of the bulwark is even. On the ships Ive seen from the period the bulwark have vertical timbers on the inside. Were there diferent ways to do this when building ships back then? Here is a pic of what I mean: /Matti
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Getting there with the stern. A lot of curves so there is some work to get the planks to get a good fit. /Matti
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Looking really nice! You got me interested in that ship, very cool design. /Matti.
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Very nice!, I hope someday to learn your style of subtle weathering. Could you explain what you used for the aged effect of the deck? /Matti
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I really agree about using satin. Talked to 2 of the modelmakers that build and painted the 1/10 Vasa model and one of the first things they said when I asked about painting tips was to not go gloss as they think it looses scale and realism on the model. /Matti
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Ferit, I mixed bright red with different browns and black. Dark washes untill Im happy with the shade. It has a slightly more red look to it, compaired to the image above. Falu red grows more dark and brown as it ages. I know Vasa did not have Falu red or had the time to make the paint turn old, but I like the look. I bought and painted the Revell Vasa to get a chance to test what Im aiming for, and I want my ship to have a used and vibrant look. I guess it might come from painting Starwars models for years. Im also sure I will leave many rough looking planks and stuff as in my opinion it brings life and character to the model. Its the style I like in my models. Ill try not to overdo it though. Its a little tricky for me as I havent painted wood before, so Im learning as I move on. /Matti Edit: Here is a pic of a Starwars kit I built a while back, and for my Vasa I ended up using a shade much like the one above for the ships skirt:
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Good job, ll your work is paying off. Was it hard to decide on colors? I painted a Revell Vasa before starting on mine, and some nuances was really tough to mix. /Matti
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Agreed! Ive done some work on the stern. Its areally fun part of the build. BB made it pretty close to the original. I wanted open gun ports though, so I had to build it a little differently compaired to the original plans. I had to redo the part with the two round holes a few times as it wanted to break. Here I started on the open gunports. I planned to have those closed, but changed my mind. My 4 year son thought it would be much cooler, and looking at the 1/10, I agree. You can also see what red I mixed for the ship. /Matti
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Buck, is there a pic of what you are replicating? /Matti
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Michael, I went through the pics but only seem to have managed to get pictures from the side and doesnt really show what you are looking for. Here are 2 pics Ive found on the web and perhaps you allready have them. The first is really small. The second is of Claytons Johnsons scratch built Vasa. If there is any problem in showing these pics on the board, let me know. /Matti
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Yeah (thats a really nice pic), or perhaps even darker. The sinking model on the museum has a dark red that I really like. I keep coming back to that model for inspiration. /Matti
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