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yamsterman got a reaction from Canute in WASHINGTON GALLEY by yamsterman - 1/48 scale - POF
Hi Mike
Welcome to the party!I'm sure your skills are more than up to the job.
To be honest you don't really need any fancy tools....all my frame components were cut using a jewellers saw....the critical element is the notches on the rising wood for the frames....exactly 1/4 inch wide and 9/64 inches apart.....I used a set up on the mill but a small table saw , proxxon or Byrnes will do the job equally as well. You could even do it with hand tools if your careful.
Other than that the most useful tools are good quality chisels kept razor sharp.
My timber was milled to the exact thickness by my timber supplier....the rest is down to time and patience and careful study of the plans.....don't forget to reject anything that isn't right....my scrap box grows larger every day!!
This was my first pof full hull model....it won't be my last.
If I can help along the way don't hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to seeing your build log.
Cheers.....mick
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yamsterman got a reaction from mtaylor in WASHINGTON GALLEY by yamsterman - 1/48 scale - POF
Hi Mike
Welcome to the party!I'm sure your skills are more than up to the job.
To be honest you don't really need any fancy tools....all my frame components were cut using a jewellers saw....the critical element is the notches on the rising wood for the frames....exactly 1/4 inch wide and 9/64 inches apart.....I used a set up on the mill but a small table saw , proxxon or Byrnes will do the job equally as well. You could even do it with hand tools if your careful.
Other than that the most useful tools are good quality chisels kept razor sharp.
My timber was milled to the exact thickness by my timber supplier....the rest is down to time and patience and careful study of the plans.....don't forget to reject anything that isn't right....my scrap box grows larger every day!!
This was my first pof full hull model....it won't be my last.
If I can help along the way don't hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to seeing your build log.
Cheers.....mick
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yamsterman got a reaction from cog in WASHINGTON GALLEY by yamsterman - 1/48 scale - POF
Hi Mike
Welcome to the party!I'm sure your skills are more than up to the job.
To be honest you don't really need any fancy tools....all my frame components were cut using a jewellers saw....the critical element is the notches on the rising wood for the frames....exactly 1/4 inch wide and 9/64 inches apart.....I used a set up on the mill but a small table saw , proxxon or Byrnes will do the job equally as well. You could even do it with hand tools if your careful.
Other than that the most useful tools are good quality chisels kept razor sharp.
My timber was milled to the exact thickness by my timber supplier....the rest is down to time and patience and careful study of the plans.....don't forget to reject anything that isn't right....my scrap box grows larger every day!!
This was my first pof full hull model....it won't be my last.
If I can help along the way don't hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to seeing your build log.
Cheers.....mick
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yamsterman got a reaction from Omega1234 in WASHINGTON GALLEY by yamsterman - 1/48 scale - POF
Hi Mike
Welcome to the party!I'm sure your skills are more than up to the job.
To be honest you don't really need any fancy tools....all my frame components were cut using a jewellers saw....the critical element is the notches on the rising wood for the frames....exactly 1/4 inch wide and 9/64 inches apart.....I used a set up on the mill but a small table saw , proxxon or Byrnes will do the job equally as well. You could even do it with hand tools if your careful.
Other than that the most useful tools are good quality chisels kept razor sharp.
My timber was milled to the exact thickness by my timber supplier....the rest is down to time and patience and careful study of the plans.....don't forget to reject anything that isn't right....my scrap box grows larger every day!!
This was my first pof full hull model....it won't be my last.
If I can help along the way don't hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to seeing your build log.
Cheers.....mick
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yamsterman got a reaction from archjofo in WASHINGTON GALLEY by yamsterman - 1/48 scale - POF
HI ALL
A VERY QUICK UPDATE.
THE WALES ARE NOW ON!!!!!!!!
HOLE FOR THE RUDDER ALSO CUT IN THE COUNTER.
LOTS OF CLEANING UP ON THE WALES AND FRAMES TO DO.......WORKING WITH EBONY IS A MESSY BUSINESS.
CLAMPS HAVE FINALLY BEEN FINISHED...WILL USE THESE WHEN PLANKING ABOVE THE WALES...NEXT JOB.
CHEERS FOR NOW.........MICK
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yamsterman got a reaction from davec in WASHINGTON GALLEY by yamsterman - 1/48 scale - POF
hi wackowolf
no soaking or steam req. this is 3.2mm or 1/8" thick ebony you would think that you would need to soak/steam/boil for hours to get it to bend.
after seeing chucks video of heat bending on his cutter log i decided to see if it worked on other timbers......it does!
the curve of the wale was taken of the draft and an improvised bending jig made.....ebony cut to the right width was clamped at one end and heated with a hot air gun on its lowest setting....about 450 watts.....and the timber was gently persueded up to the stops on the jig and clamped the other end.
leave it to cool for 1/2 hr or so and release the clamps........one nicely curved piece of ebony.
the same for inducing a twist......clamp one end in the vice........grab the other end with some meaty pliers......heat the timber.......and GENTLY twist in the direction you want......remove heat whilst still holding the plank with the pliers......let cool for a minute or two.....then release the pliers........the twist sould then be set.
this can be done with a previously edge set plank and you can then put in a curve to go round the bows for example.
three dimensional plank bending in stages with no messy water/ammonia/alcohol.....and once its bent it stays bent.
not my idea ......musical intrument makers have been using heat to bend ebony for decades probably even centuries
cheers.....mick
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yamsterman got a reaction from archjofo in WASHINGTON GALLEY by yamsterman - 1/48 scale - POF
HI ALL
WALE STRAKES ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BEING FITTED.
EASY ONES ARE ON......JUST WORKING ON THE AWKWARD SO AND SO'S.
EBONY STRIP BEING EDGE BENT TO MATCH THE SHEER CURVE OF PLAN.FIRST STRAKE IN PLACE.PIECE OF EBONY HEAT BENT 3 MONTHS AGO AS A TESTFINAL STERN PIECE..WITH A TWIST!
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yamsterman got a reaction from Archi in WASHINGTON GALLEY by yamsterman - 1/48 scale - POF
HI ALL
A VERY QUICK UPDATE.
THE WALES ARE NOW ON!!!!!!!!
HOLE FOR THE RUDDER ALSO CUT IN THE COUNTER.
LOTS OF CLEANING UP ON THE WALES AND FRAMES TO DO.......WORKING WITH EBONY IS A MESSY BUSINESS.
CLAMPS HAVE FINALLY BEEN FINISHED...WILL USE THESE WHEN PLANKING ABOVE THE WALES...NEXT JOB.
CHEERS FOR NOW.........MICK
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yamsterman got a reaction from Canute in WASHINGTON GALLEY by yamsterman - 1/48 scale - POF
hi carl
thanks shipmate
dirty old job though.....sanding dust gets eveywhere...even with constant hoovering.
its been a hard job relatively speaking....quite afew rejected pieces.....but hopefully worth the sweat and foul language.
good job i gave up smoking in feb.......i think a few ounces of backy would have been consumed during this process!!!
cheers....mick
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yamsterman got a reaction from Canute in WASHINGTON GALLEY by yamsterman - 1/48 scale - POF
hi mark
worth the effort,hot fingers,sweat,profanity.......etc
tough old stuff to work with......but should look nice when finished.
cheers....mick
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yamsterman got a reaction from albert in WASHINGTON GALLEY by yamsterman - 1/48 scale - POF
HI ALL
A VERY QUICK UPDATE.
THE WALES ARE NOW ON!!!!!!!!
HOLE FOR THE RUDDER ALSO CUT IN THE COUNTER.
LOTS OF CLEANING UP ON THE WALES AND FRAMES TO DO.......WORKING WITH EBONY IS A MESSY BUSINESS.
CLAMPS HAVE FINALLY BEEN FINISHED...WILL USE THESE WHEN PLANKING ABOVE THE WALES...NEXT JOB.
CHEERS FOR NOW.........MICK
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yamsterman got a reaction from dvm27 in WASHINGTON GALLEY by yamsterman - 1/48 scale - POF
hi wackowolf
no soaking or steam req. this is 3.2mm or 1/8" thick ebony you would think that you would need to soak/steam/boil for hours to get it to bend.
after seeing chucks video of heat bending on his cutter log i decided to see if it worked on other timbers......it does!
the curve of the wale was taken of the draft and an improvised bending jig made.....ebony cut to the right width was clamped at one end and heated with a hot air gun on its lowest setting....about 450 watts.....and the timber was gently persueded up to the stops on the jig and clamped the other end.
leave it to cool for 1/2 hr or so and release the clamps........one nicely curved piece of ebony.
the same for inducing a twist......clamp one end in the vice........grab the other end with some meaty pliers......heat the timber.......and GENTLY twist in the direction you want......remove heat whilst still holding the plank with the pliers......let cool for a minute or two.....then release the pliers........the twist sould then be set.
this can be done with a previously edge set plank and you can then put in a curve to go round the bows for example.
three dimensional plank bending in stages with no messy water/ammonia/alcohol.....and once its bent it stays bent.
not my idea ......musical intrument makers have been using heat to bend ebony for decades probably even centuries
cheers.....mick
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yamsterman got a reaction from Landlocked123 in WASHINGTON GALLEY by yamsterman - 1/48 scale - POF
HI ALL
WALE STRAKES ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BEING FITTED.
EASY ONES ARE ON......JUST WORKING ON THE AWKWARD SO AND SO'S.
EBONY STRIP BEING EDGE BENT TO MATCH THE SHEER CURVE OF PLAN.FIRST STRAKE IN PLACE.PIECE OF EBONY HEAT BENT 3 MONTHS AGO AS A TESTFINAL STERN PIECE..WITH A TWIST!
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yamsterman got a reaction from davec in WASHINGTON GALLEY by yamsterman - 1/48 scale - POF
HI ALL
A VERY QUICK UPDATE.
THE WALES ARE NOW ON!!!!!!!!
HOLE FOR THE RUDDER ALSO CUT IN THE COUNTER.
LOTS OF CLEANING UP ON THE WALES AND FRAMES TO DO.......WORKING WITH EBONY IS A MESSY BUSINESS.
CLAMPS HAVE FINALLY BEEN FINISHED...WILL USE THESE WHEN PLANKING ABOVE THE WALES...NEXT JOB.
CHEERS FOR NOW.........MICK
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yamsterman got a reaction from Mike 41 in WASHINGTON GALLEY by yamsterman - 1/48 scale - POF
HI ALL
WALE STRAKES ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BEING FITTED.
EASY ONES ARE ON......JUST WORKING ON THE AWKWARD SO AND SO'S.
EBONY STRIP BEING EDGE BENT TO MATCH THE SHEER CURVE OF PLAN.FIRST STRAKE IN PLACE.PIECE OF EBONY HEAT BENT 3 MONTHS AGO AS A TESTFINAL STERN PIECE..WITH A TWIST!
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yamsterman got a reaction from flying_dutchman2 in WASHINGTON GALLEY by yamsterman - 1/48 scale - POF
hi kurt
tiles have worked out quite well......look even more terracottery with a coat of varnish.
the c clamps were inspired by a couple of clamps i brought from a german company called dictum.
lovely clamps ,beautifully made....and £8 each!! there also a bit bigger and a lot heavier hence making my own.
so 12 clamps would be £96 plus postage................instead £18 for a 6 inch piece of 1inch brass channel with a 1/8" wall thickness plus a couple of quid for some m3 studding and some thumbnuts in stainless............and a bit of metal bashing!!!
all the work was done on the proxxon mill,tapped by hand and hand polished.
just waiting for some non serrated m3 stainless nylock flange nuts to finish them off.
just started to fit the first pieces of the wale.
cheers.....mick
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yamsterman got a reaction from archjofo in WASHINGTON GALLEY by yamsterman - 1/48 scale - POF
HI ALL
TIME FOR ANOTHER PROGRESS REPORT.
LOWER DECK HAS BEEN FINISHED AND INSTALLED ALONG WITH TILED HEARTH FOR THE SHIPS STOVE.
TREENAILS HAVE BEEN FITTED.....IVE GONE WITH SOME 0.38MM MONOFILAMENT IN BLACK FOR THIS AS ONCE THE MAIN DECK WITH ALL THE CARLINGS AND LEDGES ETC HAS BEEN FITTED ANY TREENAILING WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO SEE.
IT LOOKS A BIT HARSH AS WE SPEAK .......BUT WE SHALL SEE.
PUMP WELL AND SHOT LOCKERS CONSTRUCTED BUT NOT YET FITTED.....IM WAITING TO CONSTRUCT THE HINGES AND STOVE PLUS RUDDER PINTLES AND GUNPORT HINGES ALL AT THE SAME TIME.....A SORT OF MAD BRASS BINGE.
UPPER LIMIT OF WALE STRAKE HAS BEEN MARKED AND SOME PIECES OF EBONY EDGE BENT TO THE APPROPRIATE CURVE.
FIRST TWO PIECES ARE WAITING TO HAVE THIER HOOK SCARPHS FORMED PRIOR TO INSTALLATION.
THESE WILL RUN FROM FRAME 2 AFT TO FRAME O FORWARD PORT AND STARBOARD.
IVE ALSO HAD A COUPLE OF DAYS BASHING METAL......THE RESULTS ARE ENCLOSED BUT ARE NOT QUITE FINISHED YET....STILL WAITING FOR THE FINISHING TOUCHES TO ARRIVE.
CHEERS........MICK
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yamsterman got a reaction from aviaamator in WASHINGTON GALLEY by yamsterman - 1/48 scale - POF
HI ALL
A VERY QUICK UPDATE.
THE WALES ARE NOW ON!!!!!!!!
HOLE FOR THE RUDDER ALSO CUT IN THE COUNTER.
LOTS OF CLEANING UP ON THE WALES AND FRAMES TO DO.......WORKING WITH EBONY IS A MESSY BUSINESS.
CLAMPS HAVE FINALLY BEEN FINISHED...WILL USE THESE WHEN PLANKING ABOVE THE WALES...NEXT JOB.
CHEERS FOR NOW.........MICK
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yamsterman got a reaction from Canute in WASHINGTON GALLEY by yamsterman - 1/48 scale - POF
HI ALL
A VERY QUICK UPDATE.
THE WALES ARE NOW ON!!!!!!!!
HOLE FOR THE RUDDER ALSO CUT IN THE COUNTER.
LOTS OF CLEANING UP ON THE WALES AND FRAMES TO DO.......WORKING WITH EBONY IS A MESSY BUSINESS.
CLAMPS HAVE FINALLY BEEN FINISHED...WILL USE THESE WHEN PLANKING ABOVE THE WALES...NEXT JOB.
CHEERS FOR NOW.........MICK
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yamsterman got a reaction from Rustyj in WASHINGTON GALLEY by yamsterman - 1/48 scale - POF
hi wackowolf
no soaking or steam req. this is 3.2mm or 1/8" thick ebony you would think that you would need to soak/steam/boil for hours to get it to bend.
after seeing chucks video of heat bending on his cutter log i decided to see if it worked on other timbers......it does!
the curve of the wale was taken of the draft and an improvised bending jig made.....ebony cut to the right width was clamped at one end and heated with a hot air gun on its lowest setting....about 450 watts.....and the timber was gently persueded up to the stops on the jig and clamped the other end.
leave it to cool for 1/2 hr or so and release the clamps........one nicely curved piece of ebony.
the same for inducing a twist......clamp one end in the vice........grab the other end with some meaty pliers......heat the timber.......and GENTLY twist in the direction you want......remove heat whilst still holding the plank with the pliers......let cool for a minute or two.....then release the pliers........the twist sould then be set.
this can be done with a previously edge set plank and you can then put in a curve to go round the bows for example.
three dimensional plank bending in stages with no messy water/ammonia/alcohol.....and once its bent it stays bent.
not my idea ......musical intrument makers have been using heat to bend ebony for decades probably even centuries
cheers.....mick
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yamsterman got a reaction from Archi in WASHINGTON GALLEY by yamsterman - 1/48 scale - POF
HI ALL
WALE STRAKES ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BEING FITTED.
EASY ONES ARE ON......JUST WORKING ON THE AWKWARD SO AND SO'S.
EBONY STRIP BEING EDGE BENT TO MATCH THE SHEER CURVE OF PLAN.FIRST STRAKE IN PLACE.PIECE OF EBONY HEAT BENT 3 MONTHS AGO AS A TESTFINAL STERN PIECE..WITH A TWIST!
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yamsterman got a reaction from WackoWolf in WASHINGTON GALLEY by yamsterman - 1/48 scale - POF
hi carl
thanks shipmate
dirty old job though.....sanding dust gets eveywhere...even with constant hoovering.
its been a hard job relatively speaking....quite afew rejected pieces.....but hopefully worth the sweat and foul language.
good job i gave up smoking in feb.......i think a few ounces of backy would have been consumed during this process!!!
cheers....mick
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yamsterman got a reaction from WackoWolf in WASHINGTON GALLEY by yamsterman - 1/48 scale - POF
hi mark
worth the effort,hot fingers,sweat,profanity.......etc
tough old stuff to work with......but should look nice when finished.
cheers....mick
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yamsterman got a reaction from hexnut in WASHINGTON GALLEY by yamsterman - 1/48 scale - POF
HI ALL
A VERY QUICK UPDATE.
THE WALES ARE NOW ON!!!!!!!!
HOLE FOR THE RUDDER ALSO CUT IN THE COUNTER.
LOTS OF CLEANING UP ON THE WALES AND FRAMES TO DO.......WORKING WITH EBONY IS A MESSY BUSINESS.
CLAMPS HAVE FINALLY BEEN FINISHED...WILL USE THESE WHEN PLANKING ABOVE THE WALES...NEXT JOB.
CHEERS FOR NOW.........MICK
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yamsterman got a reaction from AnobiumPunctatum in WASHINGTON GALLEY by yamsterman - 1/48 scale - POF
HI ALL
A VERY QUICK UPDATE.
THE WALES ARE NOW ON!!!!!!!!
HOLE FOR THE RUDDER ALSO CUT IN THE COUNTER.
LOTS OF CLEANING UP ON THE WALES AND FRAMES TO DO.......WORKING WITH EBONY IS A MESSY BUSINESS.
CLAMPS HAVE FINALLY BEEN FINISHED...WILL USE THESE WHEN PLANKING ABOVE THE WALES...NEXT JOB.
CHEERS FOR NOW.........MICK
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