My Fathers Son

When I first suggested this in my Cutty feed, someone quoted a book that contains planes of Thermoplylae but I was unable to source a copy for myself. I did establish that Battersea Library had a copy but unfortunately, I cant find a reference to the title of the book now. This is typical as my health has forced me to take some time of and I have the time to go sit in a library, I cant recall the book I am supposed to be looking for. Bah humbug Simon

Hi Dave, I have seen images of that model online, as would be expected of a constructors model, it is excellent. I will try your suggestion. Thanks Simon

No Kit Bill, this is a scratch build. I have a copy of the Mantua Cutty Sark plans which I will be adapting. Thermopylae had a very different stem to CS and her Stern will need some changes too. Locations of Masts and deck houses are completely different and the quarterdeck is nearly a full third the size. However, it will still be easier to adjust these drawings than it would be to start from scratch. Simon

So I have one set of drawings that have given my the lines and layout but this was OK at A4 but printing it out at a scale I want to work in is very poor and all but unusable. It does give me overall dimensions and proportions so not a complete waste. Many in the past have noted the similarity to Cutty Sark, at least in size, so I figure if I take my CS plans and overlay them with the extracts from the line drawing of Thermopylae, I may be able to come up with an acceptable hull. I am looking at doing just that relaxing in the garden with Kobi helping of course. simon

Well my Admiral gave the go ahead for a second boat and with a little crafty coaching, she even suggested the subject. This is going to take a while and I hope I have the time in me as I have just been informed that I have acquired another pair of clots in my right lung. I will be anly assisted by my two feline assistants, I feel relatively safe to do this at the design and early construction stage, it's only when I get down tobthe fine work and rigging that I have to keep it out of reach.

They ate at the stage of having mad half hour hour bursts of energy running full speed from one end of the house to the other. Heaven help any thing or one in their way.

Well, they started out yey big.but now they are this big. The black and white male is Kobi and is now 3.5kg. The female that is mostly black is only 2.5kg but she is quick and full of mischief. I have been sat at that table in the garden making a practice hull at 1:200 and they just walk through my work space or climb up on to my lap, no matter what I am doing. Bless them 20220414_223016_01.mp4 20220414_223016_02.mp4 20220414_224727_01.mp4

Well, my Kittens are now 6 months old and instead of tiny bundles of fur they are now 3kilo bundles of high energy fur running through the house destroying everything in their path. So Cutty Sark is staying right where she is, on a high shelf, out of reach and not attracting their insatiatiable curiosity. I have been looking for plans for Thermopylae but also, I have never actually made a hull and I do not want to cut my teeth on a crucial one. So, I have scaled down my Cutty plans to 1/200 and am taking a dry run at cutting out and assembling the parts. Going well so far.

Keith, I have sat here hesitating over the keyboard at a loss of what to say that has not already been expressed, its just not supposed to happen in that order. We are built to accept the eventual loss of our parents, its an inevitable thing, but our children are supposed to outlive us. I had two brothers that passed before my mother and I watched a light go out of her eyes each time, so I do know your pain. We may all be at different corners of the globe but you must know that our thoughts and best wishes are with you. Simon

If anyone has wondered why there have not been any recent updates from me its because I have had to put CS to one side for a bit. We brought two kittens into the house a month ago and they get into everything. I cant do anything without them sticking their noses in it and they would create havoc with CS so she is up high on the shelf and is going to have to stay there for a little while. In the mean time I will still be popping in to keep up with every one elses progress. Simon

Keith, as you know, my knowledge of rigging is what I have gained in restoring my Cutty so I will not attempt to comment on the accuracy, but you have captured the essence of how she should look brilliantly. Keep up the good work. Simon

I hope so Rob, it is a good start. I would not remake the mast based on this as this part will be below deck any way. I would temporarily set the mast in place and mark the height for the deck level, mast foot, this ring and the spider ring. The ring NenadM has made is a good template for the Spider ring so this can be drilled out for the pin mounts. The mast can then be reassembled and nobody will be any the wiser of the initial slip up. Simon

Hi NenadM, Just a thought, but won't you need to insert the base of the mast into the deck? That is a nice neat ring, you will need to install the spider ring above this first though with the loops horizontal to accept the belaying pins. Simon

A little more done. I have trimmed up the sides a little a given them a coat of paint. This was normal white with just a touch of matt black. As you can see, I have put a single rope around the edge of the canvas, the zigzag is going to be very small and require a degree of patience. Once this is done, I think I will be happy with these. I will not be doing this for the captains gigg. As pointed out by my Admiral, why go to all the effort of all the detail just to permanently cover it up. The gigg will have a full sett of oars, mast etc on board and on display. Simon

I have not been spending much time on CS recently so there is not much to report at the moment. Still only on the Mizzen, after completing the lifts, I set out to complete a set of sails, no problem sewing these but adding the the loops for the Clew, Bunt and Downloads. I tried brass rings on the Royal and top gallant and while I liked these, I thought I should try to do these in rope and tried several methods on the tops and crossjack. The scale is wrong on these, but rhe material is correct. I need to find a process that will do both. I have an idea but have yet to try it. This is my set up for working on the sails. the multi grips in the vice attached to the table brings the whole thing up to a convenient height in front of me so I can work on the small stuff without having to sit awkwardly. I have mounted the Royal and the crossjack. Here is the Royal. i was distracted by Robs wonderful images of Glory and have started recovering one of my boats. I removed to cloth I had made and tried to find a stiff metal rod to use for the brace across the top, the only thing I had was a shirt hanger. Unfortunately, I could not make that work. I could have used brass but instead I went for something a little more subtle, I length of cord I use for stays. I CA'd this to the stem and the stretched this over the stern post as tight as I dared, after giving the glue a short time to set up. I could see this was not going to give me that arch that Rob has but a length of coffee stirrer stretched for and aft sanded to shape and slipped under the cable gives a nice shape to the rope. i then coved it in masking tape, creasing the edges with my fingernails gently to gi e it shape. My method hasn't given that crisp centre ridge but then i haven't painted yet so this might change at that point. Fingers crossed but looking good so far. Simon

I must applaud your tenacity NenadM, metal is a much harder (as in difficult) material to work with, and you have produced an excellent end result. Simon

Rob, Thanks for the explanation on the boat covers, I will have a practice on one of my rejects first and if I can make it work for me, then I can bring my Cutty boats up to spec. Simon

Rob, She has wonderful clean lines and it is so obvious without her masts at this stage. I have been admiring your boat covers, (I have been admiring everything) but specifically, I have been looking at the boat covers as mine are rubbish in comparison. Are these silkspan? Simon

I am not too far behind you, I have just made my sails for the Mizzen and will be mounting them shortly. I stopped rigging at the lifts, then worked on the sails, planning on installing from top to bottom. Just makes a bit more sense to me. Loving your work so far. Simon

I see the advantage of the B&D vice over a normal vice, the extra width gives the opportunity to spread the lines at deck level so you can plan their securing points better. Much tidier. Simon

My attempts at ratlines definitely improved when I started using the guide cards, I mocked up a clamp gluing extensions to a small clamp then when it was in just the right place, clamped it on the opposite side to balance the weight. I know you are working at a much smaller scale and looking to get a result closer to Robs than mine, but I am sure that this is the way to go. You've got this. Simon

A little progress this evening. Lower three lifts squared away and made a start on the coils of excess rope. Regards Simon

I am definitely paying the price of not following this advice and have learned my lesson the hard way. Both yours and Keith's yards are works of art. Simon

Hi, Made these last night for the crossjack bunt lines. I did try with 2mm blocks to start with but they were too small for my fat fingers to handle. I have drilled through the leading edge of the mizzen mast top and these will be glued in place tonight. Keith, I do get what you mean about working in tight spaces, it seems that ever time I work on one thing, I upset another. 😡 this is in part because I have not actually fixed any line in final position and just tied them of as they would the real thing as I want to be able to make adjustments when it's all in place. Oh well, time to go earn a few pennies again, ta ta for now. Simon

Hi all, I am not planning to do any work this evening, other than maybe adjust a few of-the-shelf blocks to suit the purpose of their use, but I thought I would outline how I finally got my head around the thorny problem of when, or not, a block should be used. Firstly, I took on board that what I am working on is "Running Lines" which means these are not Fixed lines like shrouds but are expected to be frequently adjusted by crew members. For each foot above deck the crew member works, the level of risk increases exponenetially so any routine adjustment needs to be at deck level as much as possible. The old joke about "How long is a piece of string" comes to mind but its simple, its the distance between the two ends, and its the two ends that need to be addressed. The best way to simplyfy a system is to ensure that any adjustment is only necessary on one end. So if one end (Point A) is fixed, the the line can pass through as many function blocks (Points F) as necessary to carry out its purpose before going to the other end (Point B ) where it can be temorarily secured, ready to be released and adjusted by a crew member when required. So I came to the conclusion that Points A shoud be Shackles, Points B will be Belaying Pins and Points F will be Blocks of a type appropriate to their function. It might be that the Shackle is attached to the deck, a yard or even to a block when it is part of a block and tackle arrangement, but that is still a Point A shackle as it is permanantly tied off. Points F are for two purposes, either as a multiplier to reduce the load level on a specific line or, to change the direction of a line, or both at the same time and this can only be achieved with Block(s). So that is my rational behind the use of shackles and blocks in my rigging. Simon