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- Keith Black, AJohnson and DaveBaxt
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Finished the handrail and doing some testing if I'm going to use netting.
Next is installing the support pillars for the handrail canons. The ones that was in the kit is terible.
They are to big and wrong shape, so I had to make some new ones.
I'm so glad I have the Bounty book.
Here is the first test of the new pillars.
They turned out nice, but a lot of work adjusting. Done 3 and 3 left.
- chris watton, AJohnson, Keith Black and 1 other
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Worked on hinghes, but easier done than said. Bout some 0.12mm brass plate where I cut out a stripps. Bended the stripp and soldered.
Then I used CA to glue it to the wood and paint black.
I painted it black since I don't know how to use chemical process to make brass blue/black. Does anybody know how to do that?
- Keith Black, DaveBaxt and AJohnson
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1 hour ago, Keith Black said:
Trond, it looks great but have you thought about trying to use fiberglass window screen?
Thanks Keith for the idea to use other material like screen. It would save me many hours of work. Haven't decided yet what to do
- AJohnson and Keith Black
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Couldn't give up that easy. So made a new more accurate jig.
Also did some changes to how I cris crossed the thread. Still had the same problem of glueing tocrossing threads with a drop of CA.
Ended up with using CA on the hole thing and it got stiff.
Hear is it place loosly in place.
I'm not sure and it was a lot of work.
Need to do some thinking hear. 🤔
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5 minutes ago, LyleK1 said:
Agreed… disappointing but not surprising.
Of course, my own lack of knowledge on period changes and the accepted norms (like the gratings you pointed out earlier) is not helping but I enjoy learning… not necessarily fixing though!!
Here is the direction I’m going in:
Still working on the slot but it’s close. The veneer will be fine once glued down and stained.
Lots of extra work but I think it will work.
Thoughts?
Did you make the hinches or was it part of the ship model kit? I need to make two of my own
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I loved you drawin michaelpsutton2 and I would agree that it wouldn't unreasenable to have that on the ship sides.
So I tried making one, easier sead that done.
Started good
But the problem was glueing the treads. I stole some sewingmachine thread from my wife.
The threads woulden glue with Medium CA+.
So does anybody know what I did wrong??
- Keith Black and AJohnson
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- Keith Black, AJohnson and chris watton
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7 hours ago, AJohnson said:
Hi Trond, have you seen the painting @michaelpsutton2 has done of the Bounty, lovely artwork, but one little detail Michael added I had not thought of until seeing your handrail stanchions going on, is the possibility of adding hammock ‘netting’s’ to the handrails, something I’m now considering on my ‘Bounty’.
I didn't see his Bount. I guess I'm not to familiar how this web page works. But I understand what you are saying,
- AJohnson and Keith Black
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- Keith Black and AJohnson
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Well tried a new way of setting up the handrail bars by drilling hole in the deck and shap the bars. Should have done that with the side wals instead of glueing them on top of the deck. I guess part of modeling is the journey from start to finish and what one learn during that trip. 😉
Must admit that I was unsert when drill the hole, scary of drilling so close to the side of the ship.
- Keith Black, DaveBaxt, tomganc and 1 other
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5 hours ago, LyleK1 said:
What is the scale in the book?
I can't say that I've ever seen one mentioned.
The scale varies from drawing to drawing. It usually is either 1/48 or 1/98
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Until I have the time to travel to my local hobby shop to get plank I started planing/measuring out where to place the other handrailbars on each side, but it didn't add up. When I measured up on the ship and wrote the notes on the copies I've made from the Bounty book it was off a lot.
After several control measurement I measered up the total lenght of the deck and compared it the Bount book drawings.
Measurement from the shiped showed 53.5cm and drawings in book showed 57.6cm. So I will use the book as reference and place them out from drawings in book. Using hatches etc as reference and try to place them out.
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1 hour ago, Gaffrig said:
Hello.
I see you’re located in Norway, as I am.
I recently bought a few of these at biltema, https://www.biltema.no/verktoy/handverktoy/klemmer/miniklemmer-10-stk-2000017620
They work pretty good and are not to pricey. They also have clamps similar to the ones you have.
I also use these from clas ohlson, https://www.clasohlson.com/no/Papirklyper-10-pack/p/34-1537
Your bounty is looking good!
Gaffrig.
Thanks Gaffrig
- Keith Black and Gaffrig
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- chris watton, AJohnson and Keith Black
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20 hours ago, Keith Black said:
Any more and you'd be clamping the clamps.
Problem is the clamps (aspecially the big ones) are a little bit to powerfulle and squeeze to much. So I'm looking on the web to by clamps that I have more control on the pressure.
Do anybody know where I can get it?
- Keith Black and AJohnson
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- AJohnson and Keith Black
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- AJohnson and Keith Black
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43 minutes ago, AJohnson said:
For inner bulwark colouring, dull red was fairly universal in that period, but there were always exceptions and the actual shade of "Red" is open to interpretation as I understand it ranging from almost Brown to Signal Red, other options are to leave unpainted, perhaps varnished "paid" I think the contemporary term was, with all sorts of varnish concoctions that could be quite dark in tone. (a not unlikely option given the 'lowly' status of the "Bounty") or perhaps Yellow Ochre. Less likely are white or the much later Greens.
Then I will go with red. Since I didn't enough speare plank, I cheated and used balsa on the side boards, so unpainted is out of the question.
Next boat I'm defiantly going to be strick/plan on my selection on material.
Need to get som hard wood for when I start my making of deck utility station.
- AJohnson and Keith Black
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- yvesvidal, Keith Black, ccoyle and 2 others
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On 2/14/2022 at 9:29 AM, AJohnson said:
All you (any of us) can do is the best our building skills and research time allows. As regard’s the Bounty it is only famous because of the mutiny; if the voyage had gone as planned, I doubt most of us would know or care about her. It was employed for a mundane and by modern standards an odious mission to transport sapling plants for food for slaves in the Caribbean. I doubt any unnecessary expense was used on her decorations. I have by convention (in the AOTS books etc.) gone with blue for the bulwarks outer colour, but I have not been confident about that since I committed brush to my model. Blue was (and still is) one of the most expensive pigments to use. So why use it for a ship transporting plants? I am no expert, but I am not at all confident the AOTS book is the definitive authority on the Bounty’s appearance and my Bounty might yet appear in black instead of blue bulwarks.
Also who is going to say you are wrong? Ultimately it is down to you and what you are trying to produce n your build.Totally agree. It is my first build. I know it is not going to be perfect and my learning curve is 90degr.
- Keith Black and AJohnson
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Problem of start looking at your work and comparing,aspecially looking into the Bounty book.
Just noticed that the wale or at least some thicker planks are wider that I did.
and here is my version
I've have just taped on a plank to see how it would look.
From the look of it I need to planks.
Any comment guys?
Also looking at the color. From the picture on the book I should use a kind of dark navy blue on the side...
Need to think on that one. In the mean time I will finish up the back rail side, not sure what the correct word for it
- LyleK1, yvesvidal and Keith Black
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2 hours ago, AJohnson said:
Good to see you back building your “Bounty” I’ve had a bit of a pause on my Bounty also, but that is because I started another project, not because of work like you. Hope you can keep doing a bit more now. 👍
It looks promising at work, so for no it will be steady working with my Bounty
- AJohnson and Keith Black
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HMS Bounty by Trond - Billing Boats - 1:50
in - Kit build logs for subjects built from 1751 - 1800
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Finished glued, sanded and painted.