Doreltomin

Started bending in the frames today. They are spaced at 18" intervals and, as previously mentioned, are ¾" square. In the real boat, there were floors and futtocks united by a side overlap. However, as this will be completely invisible in the finished boat, I will omit this detail.
 
As I have other work on hand, the next update will be a few days away.

I learn something new everyday....

@Sal
 
A small detail, very often seen in dutch drawings, here analog the ones in the stern ...
 

 
... also to be found on the heads.
 
Also Colbert shows something alike:
 

 
 
I just do not know if this was still in use with the Royal Navy or if a bucket and a wet finger was meant to do the job.
 
@Jason: I remember an order for the constitution that the pi**ing in the hold and other areas was meant to be stopped. I do not remember the source or details.

But perhaps the english are more efficient?
 
Jan

Just wanted to remind you at the calculation that I already made earlier about the average stay time there and at my prove, that this was a mere leisure event :-)
 
#5589 I cite myself:
 
Some small thoughts ...
 
... with 800 men crew and 6 seats we get this optimized calculation:    800 men (NCO) / 6 seats gives 133 men/seat    In a optimized 24 hours use using all seats we get the following numbers:    24 hours = 1440 minutes    1440 minutes / 133 men = 10,5 minutes/man per day. This means no second wasted and the next user always stand by.    If you take account of that not the whole day it is possible to have this steady usage because of time, scedules and weather, the usage time per person sinks dramatically. If I remember well, constipation was widely spread, which leads to longer men mean residence time.    So the conclusion is, that the heads, regarding the weather, daytime and service schedule, could possibly be a quite crowded place at certain moments.    This account only includes the "big business". There still would be some persons too to be expected at the heads for the "small business", if they are not preferring hanging out in the shrouds (leewards): One hand for the ship and one hand for yourself - now that line is finally understood.    A quick research in German Law and regulations indicates the following:    Puplic Law of the State of lower Saxony says for a leisure event of 800 visitors the calculation should be:  800:100 x 0,8 = 7 seated toilets and 800:100 x 1,2 = 10 urinals (always rounded)    The Law of Working Spaces "Arbeitsstätten-Richtlinie, ArbStätt 5.037.1, vom 26. Juni 1976 (ArbSch. 9/1976 S. 322)"  for 250 employes one needs 10 seated toilets and 10 urinals, that means more than double for 800 employees.    In a converse argument that leads to the conclusion:  For a working place the ship should have 5 times more seated toilets and this leads to - that by the number of seats - the ship must be a leisure event - Join the Navy - see the better world!    Sehr geehrter Gruß, Ihr treuergebener Diener most sincerely, your humble servant,   dafi

We are in a calm***, that is why two guys dare taking both hands for themselves :-)
 
XXXDAn
 
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Yes eagle eyed Jan, there should be :-)
 
But that was to small for the wood I used ...
 
The waterway is about 2 mm wide.
 
XXXDAn

Btw shouldn't that be a hook joint in the waterway of that deck?
 
Jan

Thank you guys :-)
 
And yes popeye, those gents were a bit cross - someone stole the Hustler, the whiskey and the cigars from the loo ...
 
XXXDAn

Keep teasing me Dirk, keep teasing me ;-)
 
And now we come to the topics, that the dafi most enjoys!
  If someone gets pissed by this sh*tty topic - no worry, that is life ;-)   First the press gang was send out.     Then I realised, that a quarter drop of superglue can replace some tweezers ...     ... and as usual, there was some serious cutting, bending and reassembling of limbs and wings ...     ... and out came some characters that were a highest delight to create - including some bare bums :-)   And here the gents are already doing their business, tight fit starboard ...     ... everybody just one hole, the stressed faces are easing off ...     ... as everybody eases off, at port a space is free ...     ... but the gent in the red head already comes rushing in with urgent business ...      ... while those sailors in  the corners ...     ... can ease off in peace and quiet ...     ... while the double stools in the front ...     ... are more cosy :-)     The inside of the starboard roundhouse was for the lower officers that could follow the rush outside by the small window ...     ... while as far as I know the one on port was also used by the sickbay.     So that is the way that they are busily sailing towards victory ...     ... but still have to check if the loo paper was used that way hanging into the water to give it always an appearance of clean fresh spring  ;-)     XXXDan

Planning on adding pi** dales, Dafi?

I think he's taking the **** Mark.........

You're not thinking of pissoir are you?  Not exactly a swimming pool....     

After some re-working of the planking runs, I've devised a scheme for the shift of the butts and marked these on the plug.
 
Now that the 'non-boat' work is almost complete, it's time to get back to the actual model. I needed to devise a method of keeping the keel straight on the plug. If not stabilized, it will deflect as I fit the garboard strake. My solution is to drill small holes at intervals along the plug, then set sharp-ended pieces of hard brass wire, points uppermost. The keel will be pressed down onto these points. The resulting holes will be hidden under the keelson later on.

Well, some progress. The first photo looks confusing, but what i've done is rubber cement on the offcuts to the assembled lifts in order to be able to scroll-saw the profile of the boat. The second photo shows the profile cut into the starboard half-hull. The third shows both half-hulls cut and ready to shape. The last photo shows the central spine elements laid out for cutting. (The elements of this were not delineated on the original draught, so I had to be my own master shipwright.)
 
More anon. Thanks for the 'likes' and comments.

Hi all well it's amazing the effect threatening to sue, not just for the cost of the kit but also compensation can have. Special delivery today the hull half arrived(no letter of apology or even a note just the box with the hull in it)
So looks like it's back on then.

Hi all I've finished one of the rear gallerys so I thought a lot of the detail was hidden so added an oil wash to them

 

 

 

 

 

 

here's tonight's update 

 

 

 

 

 

If it wasnt for the good folks who managed to copy my logs from version 1 of this site...They would be lost forever.  I dont however know any way that it can be done easily.  But yes....you should ask permission first.  My gues is that many have already done this without asking...but it is better to ask first.
 
Chuck

Excellent resource, Admiral Paris is one of the classics... thank you very much grsjax and all!
 
Just in case, for all the non French-speakers which have difficulties to download the resource:  to download you must first check the box which says En cochant cette caisse, je recconais avoir pris... etc.
 
It is just a check  that you agree with the terms and conditions on which you have to click first, otherwise the download does not happen!

Excellent resource, Admiral Paris is one of the classics... thank you very much grsjax and all!
 
Just in case, for all the non French-speakers which have difficulties to download the resource:  to download you must first check the box which says En cochant cette caisse, je recconais avoir pris... etc.
 
It is just a check  that you agree with the terms and conditions on which you have to click first, otherwise the download does not happen!

Wonderful resource - THANK YOU!!!  This is one of the classics, frequently referenced.  There is a modern reproduction of many of the plans available as well, but the original is always a better resource.

Thanks, grsjax and ofencer29350, for the links. I've joined the forum modèlisme naval bois as a result. I also like the Marine et Modélisme d'Arsenal forum. There are plenty of great builds in both, as well as the different range of models from this forum. It's wonderful to peek into the fora in other countries such as Russia, Germany, Japan etc as they also look great -- representing different styles, models and culture which all adds to the interest and contextualises our different conceptual frameworks and conventions in this hobby.
 
Tony

Don,
Left hand side of the page... there's a down-arrow with a line underneath it.   Check the boxes that appear (as appropriate) and hit the button.

thanks for the link ,i didn't knew it and i will share in my french forum modelisme naval bois  :
 
 
 
 
http://modelisme-naval-bois.lebonforum.com/