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I am hoping to have this a couple of hundred Pounds cheaper than Indy. A new box will be needed, a little smaller than Indy, at around 850mm length (largest laser cut sheets will be 800mm) OK, for the main pumps, I cannot run away from the fact that the real thing had 6 hand pumps, 3 per side of the Main Mast. This fact is even mentioned in one of the books I am using for reference. As with the Indy and her hand pumps, I cannot ignore this, so this is what my Surprise shall have as standard. However, I shall try (as in remember) to include an alternatve chain pump set in the kit, to give the modeller the choice. For the main armament, however, I will include as standard 24 x 9-Pounder carriage guns, and offer the 32-Pounder carronades as an optional extra (cannot include both in the kit, as the price would be higher) But, early days yet, still a lot to do...
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Most of the parts are just MDF for this first build, as I know this is just to test what I have already done, and a few things will be tweaked, and the hull then thrown away.. There are scale deck beams for both the gun deck and upper deck, which will be in 4mm thick pear for the kit. There will be a little detail on the lower deck (although you will not be able to really see it) This will be my first design that does away completely with a ply sub deck. With scale spaced beams, a sub deck isn't really needed, so a 'Floating' laser engraved deck will be included (Or you can discard the supplied deck and plank as you like...) I have also designed the bow so that the gun deck isn't cut off by the forward most bulkheads, as is usually the case, but goes all the way forward. (Including the bow chaser/bridle port being framed) . Am yet to see how well this works out... Overall length will be around 1176mm including the bowsprit and mizzen boom. Oh, and I have my new laser machine arrive a week today!
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I am waiting for the shipment to arrive. Trust me, when I have them in stock, I have no intention of keeping it a secret
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No, there have only been two verssions of the manual. The first 50 manuals stopped at the mast assembly, as the kit was released before the prototype model was fully finished. Once the 50 manuals from the first run were used up, Version 2 of the manuals were printed, with the only change being a few more pictures of the masting and rigging. Nothing else has ever changed, not the laser cut files, not the plan sheets - once designs are finalised, they are not changed again unless there's a very good reason. But in Sphinx's case, designs and plan sheets have never changed, just a few more pages added in the manual.
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Ah, I see. They are not shown because they are not included - It seems main lower booms were fitted, but not the fore, at least from what I could garner. This is why they are not shown - you are looking for something that the kit does not have. If you wanted to include them, you can, but perhaps have them stowed on the boat beams, in-between the boats, as the anchors would probably smash them up otherwise...
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The kit will be based off the original lines of the Unité-class corvette, launched in 1794 and captured in 1796 and renamed Surprise. There will be an option to buy either the original 32-Pounder carronade main battery, or, as standard in the kit, 24 x 9-Pounder long guns as per the novels. Same applies for main pumps. There will be 2 figureheads, one as per the original (or as near as dammit, as what a weird figurehead..), or a choice of one more like in the novels/movie.
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When the lid is closed, there is space for the capstan bars to go over, I checked when designing the companion - what is in your Harpy is the third iteration of that (Initially, I designed as per the plan, with not housing, just the coamings). There are numerous records of officers moaning about the fact that some deck fittings were too close to the capstan, or the ladderways being too restrictive, and suggesting they be moved... ETA - I did purchase 4 plans for Harpy, with two for Diligence. My first plan was Harpy profiles, which showed stocks for swivel guns, so I assume this was one of the first drafts, just before 6-Pounder main battery with 12 x swivels were changed in favour of the much heavier broadside of 16 x 32-Pounder carronades and 2 x long gun chasers - as a later plan shows the swivel stocks removed, along with changes to the fore channel positions. (from what I remember when researching/designing this, at least...)
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I should mention this: A lot of the customer gallery photos are missing. This is because the old website decided to lock us out completely just before the changeover, and before we had finished exporting the files for all the photos the customers sent us, so only a few got through. We will need to rebuild this gallery over the coming months - but for those who no longer see their pictures in the gallery, don't worry, it's not that we didn’t want them, on the contrary, it's just that we just couldn't not export them before the old site decided to throw a wobbly. We did manage to export all existing customer info though, the customer photos was the very last task to changeover. Oh, also, for anyone in the UK, we will have a stand at SMS 50TH Anniversary Exhibition: 10-12 June at Portsmouth! No idea what this will be like....
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OK, small (but big update for us) We’re Live! Welcome to the New Vanguard Models Website! Our brand-new website is here, making it easier than ever to browse and shop for our expertly designed model ship kits, fittings, tools, and more! As a family-run business, we truly appreciate your support. Check it out now: https://vanguardmodels.co.uk/ If you spot anything that doesn’t seem quite right, please let us know - we’re always looking to improve. Happy browsing! Shipping for UK customers is now free. This have been in the works for over 5 months, and a lot of time and effort, but we realised that the old website was no longer good enough for what we wanted with so many glitches, so now the whole caboodle has moved from Woocommerce to Shopify.
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I have little doubt vessels of this size were fitted with stern davits, and even later, quarter davits, especially one such as Harpy, which had such a long career spanning both the French Revolutionary and Napoleonic Wars - wartime modifications would have come thick and fast, I think. I got the inspiration for stern davits from a painting depicting Harpy and the ship sloop Fairy (Swan Class?) engaging the French Frigate Le Pallas off St Malo in 1800.
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Yes, included are the 18 and 22 foot cutters.
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HMS Sherborne - Caldercraft vs Vanguard
chris watton replied to nheather's topic in Wood ship model kits
I sent an order which contained Sherbourne kits to Ages of Sail 4 weeks ago, have they run out of them already! ETA - I designed my first Sherbourne over 25 years ago (a quarter of a century, damn)!, it didn't take long as there's not really too much to it. The VM version is still heavily subsidised by me, meaning I make less profit per sale, but the upside being more people may buy it and actually enjoy and complete the model, rather than give up half way through. The material and parts count and time taken to produce each kit is much higher than my first design of Sherbourne. So, even if you think it is still too expensive when compared to the other, it really isn't, not for what you get in the box.
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