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Hmmm, I never thought I'd be back this soon... You won't see the blocks installed anytime soon, but here are the Syren Ship Model Company 1/8" double and single blocks (left) compared to their equivalent(?) versions as supplied by Model Shipways (right). Yes, I'm sure those are the correct ones from Model Shipways. This was verified by the count of the blocks compared to the parts list that came with the kit. Attaching the hooks to the Syren blocks is going to be an interesting proposition. Pin vice and drill baby drill? Looks like it will work. I opened up the eye of an eye bolt and trimmed the bolt to fit the hole I drilled in the block. Only 79 more of these to go for the tackle. I had hoped to be able to wrap one of the Jack stays completely around the block but there's not enough material there to cover the circumference. And frankly, experimentation has shown that it's too difficult to do anyway.
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Yes, I will rig them. In fact, I'm studying up on that now. I think I'm only going to use one set of block and tackle and a breech rope per cannon or carronade. Since, as previously mentioned, I've already installed the eye bolts in the bulwarks, and since I also didn't construct the pieces the breech ropes attach to with a pin, I will be using hooks to attach blocks and breech ropes to the existing eye bolts. I see I have much rigging and seizing ahead of me. So, while it may look like I'm taking a summer hiatus, I will probably just be busy for a time with fiddly work and finalizing year two of my build log for a spiral bound hard copy. I'll be back as soon as I have something interesting to display.
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Oh good! It's the only chance I have to catch up to you Mustafa. (Like that will ever happen! 😁) Have a great summer.
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I had hoped to finish the long guns for the spar deck today. But I grow weary. I don't think much needs to be explained below, except that I did take a slight deviation from the Hunt practicum in that I did not use a brass rod to support the stool bed. I figured that it would hardly be seen and add too much complexity to the construction. I took an easier route that didn't risk poking holes in the carriage sides. (Boy, it would have been fun to be able to jump from my previous post to the finished Constitution, like Gregg just did with the Santa Maria. Sadly I'm not quite as productive as he. Once again Gregg, congratulations on a beautiful build.) As far as the wheels are concerned, I'm going to take a simple approach by cutting dowels of the proper diameters and simply glue these to the ends of the axles. The quoins should be a piece of cake, since I think I still have some leftover material from when I built the carronades.
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Geez Gregg! Coming from out of nowhere and crossing the finish line in one fell swoop. I'm delighted to be among the first to congratulate you on the successful completion of a very beautiful build. Congrats!
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USS Constitution by mtbediz - 1:76
Der Alte Rentner replied to mtbediz's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1751 - 1800
And of course, you seized the breach lines to eyebolts BEFORE you glued the eyebolts into the bulwarks. To borrow a phrase from a contemporary cartoon character, doh! I guess I will be cheating and using hooks instead. There's no way I can seized these now that my eyebolts are already glued into the bulwarks. Two steps forward, one step back.. -
Menschens Kind! Were the first words that came to mind. Loosely translated, holy mackerel, or maybe better- man oh man! I don't see where I'd ever have to make such parts, but I sure will look into the product and instructions to see how it's used. You never know when some nugget of information comes in handy at a future date. Wow!
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I used double-sided tape to affix printed star shapes onto a styrene strip (.010" x .188"). I then used an Excel 17a chisel blade to cut out the shapes. There's no way these are going to end up being perfect. I threw away about as many as I ended up gluing to the transom. Truth be told, I think it might have been easier to make them using boxwood and my scroll saw, as I did for the stars in the decoration on the trail board/stem. Scroll back a bunch of pages to see how I did that in my build log. I could not find a source for Star decals in the size required for this job.
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USS Constitution by mtbediz - 1:76
Der Alte Rentner replied to mtbediz's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1751 - 1800
Of course, I should have known that. With the effort you put into your gun deck, you'd want every view available to show off your artistry. -
gleaned from your commentary on channels. I was wondering how I'd keep them secure against the hull. The pins are a great idea! Thanks from nearly 9 years hence.. DAR
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USS Constitution by mtbediz - 1:76
Der Alte Rentner replied to mtbediz's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1751 - 1800
Hey, Mustafa, Thanks to Jon's contribution on the previous page (recapped below), I just noticed that there's a hole in the center of the curtains/carved boards for the rope required to pull up the gunport lid from inside. Since you already glued yours onto the hull, have you decided not to add the rope? It seems to me that you could have drilled these holes more easily before mounting the curtains vs. using a pin vise now - unless the plan is to exclude the ropes from the build. (yes, I have too much time on my hands 😁). -
I struck out in my online search for methods of aging the copper plate for the hull. Given that the materials supplied with the kit have a tape/paper backed copper strip, none of the soaking approaches suggested by A/I Deep Searches yielded a workable solution. Does anyone know of a supplier of adhesive copper tape already green (green, as in an aged penny or the Statue of Liberty)? To refresh memories before anyone asks, I don't like the look of the shiny copper next to my "natural" finished planking.
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I'm amazed by the depth of knowledge and keen interest on the part of the naval historians at the MSW site. I learn something new here every day..
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USS Constitution by mtbediz - 1:76
Der Alte Rentner replied to mtbediz's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1751 - 1800
Hunt calls them "curtains". .. and you have chosen a very novel approach to their construction. Kudos! -
Your bow detailing is striking and elegant. I look forward to seeing how you deal with the trailboard and ornaments. I assume you have the plans which include the drawings of the ornaments. In which case, you - of all people - should have no problem. Since you seem to have a knack for metal work, XKen's method for making these may be of interest to you. Or you could try styrene (the Bob Hunt method). I'm sure you'll come up with something amazing. (Don't forget that I have the artwork for those oval flags, as well as the scale drawings of the ornaments, if you need them, at post 499.) My thoughts are to tackle what I can on the hull first, so I can finally clamp it down to work on a stable platform. Rudder? Channels? Gundeck cannons and port lids? But maybe before I do much else , I'll experiment with aging the copper plating to see how the green looks next to my planking. If I like the look, that could be next.
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Finally! While not perfect, due to slight discrepancies in symmetry between port and starboard sides, I am pretty satisfied with the result of the port side planking. More than that, I'm happy to be moving on to something else. What that will be remains to be determined. Drat! I think I know what that's going to be afterall. I noticed a chip in the bottom port side rail, right near the top by the ornamental arrow in the trailboard scroll work. Maybe I'll try to fix that. I have no idea when that happened. Again, the camera sees more than the naked eye. Before I left the shipyard, I had to at least try to fix the chipped rail.
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I fabricated rail three in three parts finding this to be the easiest way to do it. I wish I'd done this with the starboard side rail, but better late than never. Before I attempt to attach the stiffeners for the planking, I am going to let the glue and stain cure, and contemplate employing Mustafa's technique of adding a backing plank to make that installation easier. So I'm going to take the rest of the weekend off. Happy Memorial Day to all. By the way, if anyone looking at my post has not yet discovered the one for The Bitter End, look that one up. You are going to be stunned with what he posted today. Link follows: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/37377-uss-constitution-by-the-bitter-end-model-shipways-176/page/6/#comment-1101164
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"Wow" seems like a severe understatement. I've never seen anything like the workmanship you've displayed here, and I am soooo looking forward to following the rest of your build. Congratulations!
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USS Constitution by mtbediz - 1:76
Der Alte Rentner replied to mtbediz's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1751 - 1800
Blast! I wish I'd seen this post 2 hours ago. I am dealing with the remaining port side rails today. Unfortunately I already glued the top head rail in place and it may be difficult to add that backing plank, but I'm going to give it a try. Anything to make gluing those stiffeners in place is going to be a huge plus. Great work as always, Mustafa. -
Due to matters requiring attention at home, I am using the day to update my personal build log on my desktop PC. When it came time to mention the gammoning issue, I felt I needed a photo to illustrate what I was talking about. Here's a photo from a post by "AllanKP69" at another model building website. Have a good weekend all..
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Though not visible in the photos below, I did check to see where the gammoning would be on the bowsprit and I believe there will be plenty of room to pass rope between the head and the bowsprit. So, no worries on that front. Meanwhile, work begins on the port side.. (As an aside, this dividing attachment is a pretty crappy accessory for the proxxon MF 70 mill. It would be nice if the rotary base would accommodate the small proxon vise instead of having these ridiculous Jaws. At least I got one thing accomplished using the tool.)
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