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In my experience the Syren rope has not unwound at all on its own, the only time it has unwound on me is in situations where it snags up on something while being fed through a hole or tight spaces. -
Haven't posted for a couple weeks, father in law passed away, and my Australian Shepard who has shadowed my side for the last 14 years has been in pretty poor health and required nearly full time attention. I have actually been working on the model quite a bit to take my mind off of things, but I haven't been very good with pics, so sorry for the lack of progress picks but here are few shots of the whole ship to show my progress. I finished the masts, and have started on the standing rigging. I decided to replace my rope with rope from Syren, the difference in quality is staggering. Since this is my first ship model I have been focusing on how the rigging works and what the purpose of each rope is and I am not quite as focused on making sure all the correct knots are being used and everything is whipped etc., but I am trying to add those things and learn how they should be done where I can if they aren't too much effort.
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Which is exactly the situation as I said earlier, the kit doesn't show WHAT should be done in multiple points of the instructions.
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This is also my first kit, so I don't have experience building with others yet, but I do have 3 other kits for future builds I have recently purchased from Vanguard, Amati/Victory, and Model Shipways and just thumbing through the instructions all are leaps and bounds better than my Beagles instructions. I have even pulled out the instructions of those other kits to help me better understand some of the rigging parts because the Occre rigging plans are so awful. Honestly I didn't feel the Beagles instructions were that bad until you start to get towards the masts and rigging, It feels like they just rushed through the end of the instructions because they were short on time, got tired of the project, or they got another employee to finish them or something. I don't mind having to study plans and figure stuff out, but there are multiple parts (bowsprit installation, undersides of the mast tops, rigging eyebolts on the outer hull) that aren't even shown in the instructions, and their video series isn't always helpful either as they skip a lot of stuff in those as well. Sorry for the rant, the Occre instructions have been getting under my skin for the last couple weeks haha.
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I've just started rigging my Beagle, and I have found Occre's instructions from Bowsprit installation (in which there were no instructions) to end of rigging to be pretty much useless to the point I probably won't buy another Occre kit. Even the guy making the model for their official videos is doing things differently from the parts I can make out in the instructions, and John Aliprantis who has a youtube Beagle series is doing things in another way. For the bowsprit, I found the general location the Bowsprit hole should be located and started to dig around with my hobby knife until I found the slot that is intended for the bowsprit, I then made a small hole and slowly opened it up with a round file and sandpaper until it fit the dowel pretty snuggly. Here is a pic of my bowsprit inserted so you can get a general idea of where it needs to be installed.
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Loving the color scheme, and you are confirming my choice with going with Boxwood when I eventually do the Pegasus. I am going to have to pickup some of that Vallejo New wood paint, It looks like a useful color to have in the inventory.
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Started on the masts last week. I was pretty ignorant to how many parts were involved in building them up, and the Occre instructions are borderline horrible especially regarding the mast tops, I had to watch quite a few videos just to show steps that aren't even in the instruction book. I'm really starting to understand why people avoid kits that have bad instructions. Another common complaint I see about this kit is most of the builders seem to run out of 1mm brass rod. I ran out before I even started on the masts, and the masts require quite a bit of the material for the railings on the tops, I broke down and just ordered 10 bucks worth of brass rod from amazon and that should last me for many future kits. Lower mainmast and foremasts, Mizzen mast work has just started and was in the garage drying with a fresh coat of shellac. Bowsprit ready for some rigging. I also decided to add a head to the ship with some 2x1 walnut strips, this wasn't part of the kit but I thought the ship looked a little naked with nothing there to fill the void. It's not accurate to plans or anything, and I may add a seat of ease and toilet paper holder in the future. How the ship is currently looking.
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Good suggestion, did a bit of googling on the Congreve rockets and it does show several pictures of their use on boats and ships on the Wikipedia page. Interesting how it looks like they were basically inserted into the hull of the ship like a bottle rocket. I think this really helps, I was just trying to visualize how a ship would be designed for a rocket. In my mind I was picturing a large emplacement in the deck sort of like a Bomb Vessel, but now I see some pictures I can better understand they probably used a simple rail system off the side of the ship.
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I'm currently reading the book "Post Captain", by Patrick O'Brian. When describing the sloop Polychrest, they often describe that it was built around an experimental weapon that is from what I can gather some form of a rocket. I know rockets had been around for a few hundred years by this point, but I'm having trouble visualizing what this weapon would look like on a Sloop, and how the boat would need to be designed around it. Are there any real world examples of a weapon remotely similar used on a ship of the time that I could reference, or was this just a purely fictional weapon that O'Brian came up with?
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You do fantastic work Moonbug, your Build log is definitely going to be one of my "go-to" logs to source ideas when it is time to start my Pegasus kit.
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Feels like I hit a milestone in the kit. The hull and deck are complete other than the last 3 ship boats and hardware to attach them to the boat. I plan on completing the last 3 boats after rigging as I think they will just get in the way while rigging. But for now my mind is shifting gears to the masts and then rigging which is something brand new to me. Here I added the 4 Quarter Davits that will secure the boats when they are ready. I also installed the rudder safety chain, which the ropes can be seen in the photo hanging off the rear of the ship. The Beagle comes with two types of Anchors, one with an Iron stock, and one with a wooden stock. The wooden stock provided by the kit was pretty terrible looking and was pretty far out of scale for the size of the anchor it was attached too. So I fashioned up a new set out of basswood, sanded to shape, coated with Amber shellac, and used electrical shrink wrap for the iron straps. Anchors and chains installed along with the Beagle figure piece. Here are a couple full ship shots to show the milestone point before I start adding masts and rope.
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Kit received. Dave is an A+ seller, great communication and fast shipping.
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Just the wood.
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Spent the last weekend building a new office desk/hobby desk. Previously I had been working on a small foldout table relegated to the corner of the living room, the cramped space had really starting to frustrate me and my office computer desk was also on its last legs. I decided to solve both problems and went to the hardware store bought an 8 foot butcher block counter top, ordered some metal desk legs online, along with some under desk cabinets. It's already so much nicer to work on the boat having some space to breath and lay my tools out. My next plan is to eventually get rid of the cheap pdf hobby organizer rack I am currently using and expand with something more permanent and with more useful organizational space. Only thing I see that needs improvement is some better lighting. Back to the Beagle. I started on the ships boat carried on the deck, these little boats are harder to put together than I was expecting and I made quite a few mistakes that I will try to improve on the other 3 boats. I have also started on the cannons, I am doing a pretty simple rigging for them since they aren't really the focus of a boat like the Beagle. Next step is to get them fastened to the deck.
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Quick update. I sent an RMA Request to ModelExpo requesting a refund and they approved it. I am going to ship the product back to them and buy some wood from one of the other recommended suppliers. I appreciate everyone's help and input.
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Guess I got swindled then, considering all the high praise people have for Model Shipways kits, I assumed their parent company would be straight shooters as well. If there is any plus side I got it all for 48% off during their sale, but being ripped off at half price is still getting ripped off. I will test out their customer service to see if they will take it back and try to find strips elsewhere.
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Yes, it appears to be that color the whole way through. In moderation I think the yellow strips could be used in really cool ways on a kit, but I was planning on planking my Pegasus kit with it in the future and it might be a bit too much yellow for a whole ship to be planked in.
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Is Boxwood normally very yellow in color? I bought some strips a couple weeks ago during the Model Expo anniversary sale, but it seems very yellow compared to what I normally see pictured. Below is what I received.
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Per our PM's I'll take this beauty.
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Two of the last major additions that I wanted to add that weren't part of the Occre plans were better hammocks, and gangway steps on the hull. Spent the last few nights working on the hammocks. I used some sail cloth that I bought online, which was hard to work with as the cloth seemed to unravel faster than I could work with it, plus the gap in the railing to place the cloth was only about 1mm wide, so it was very hard to work with until I decided to open the railing up a bit with a chisel. Not the best, probably larger than they should be for scale, and I know I added way too many of them, but I am happy with the result with how frustrating it was to add them. After the hammocks I added up the gangway steps on the hull.
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Spent the last week working on deck furnishings, all these attachments to the deck are deceptive with how much time they take to complete. Also looking at these pictures makes me just want to pick up a touch up brush, its crazy how a camera points out so many imperfections that you can't see with the eye. Got the chain wrapped around the windlass after I spent nearly an hour looking on the ground for one of the chain pipe outlets I dropped. I even saw exactly where the piece landed, but by the time I got on my knees to grab it the piece it had been sucked up by the small parts black hole. Main jeer bits, water pumps and main hatchway. Skylights and companion ways. Boat mounts And that takes me up to how the ship currently sits. Just a few more items for the deck, I need to figure out how I want to rig the stowed cannons, start making the hammocks, then the ships boats. After that then Its time for the masts and rigging.
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Couple more items completed. Forward deck hatches. Deep sea sounding wench. Does anyone know if they stored the rope on the wench, or just attached it when in use? Instructions don't show any rope on the wench, and its hard to find any images of deep sea wenches of the period. I think it would look good with some rope wrapped around the drum.
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Looks great, fantastic work.
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Been working a lot on all the deck fixtures which means lots of painting and brass blackening of tiny parts. Poop deck hardware, azimuth compass, and hand railing. Windlass painted and glued in place. I'm going to have to figure out what to do for the windlass handles, i formed up the brass rod to exactly match the kits template and they turned out not to be long enough, I tried to reform them to work but they just looked way to mangled up and I wasn't happy with them. The one material that Occre seems to be stingy with on this kit is the brass rod, so I am either going to have to order some more or find an alternative solution. Spent a while saturday night trying to rig up the carronade to somewhat match up how it is in the AOTS book. It doesn't look great and the blocks look way out of scale, but it's way better than just the single rope the kit instructions called for. Sunday I finally decided to tackle the deadeyes, these took the better part of the day to install but weren't nearly as difficult as I was expecting.
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