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Garry, When I get back to it, I am planning to plank most of the hull with the exception of the part next to the well. Basically, something identical to what the Model Shipways box cover pictures. For the deck, I will plank most of it, with the exception of the area right above the side of the well and some section above the bunk rooms. My work and assembly is not nice enough to be left visible in a non-planked version. Besides, I want to convey the nice lines of the craft and planking is essential on a boat. I hope you can start your kit very soon, and join us on the forum. Yves
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Gorgeous kit, fantastic instructions and great price! Make sure you ask for the reworked Carronades to be included in your kit. Yves
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Here are the promised pictures. Both covering boards are placed carefully and secured locally (bow and stern) with a dab of CA glue. Then white glue is spread carefully between frames, covering boards and clamps, to make a very sturdy and solid assembly. Detail of the bow showing how the king plank helps position exactly the two covering boards: As indicated before, the frames have been sanded and faired, and stained in their visible section with Micro-Mark alcohol based brown stain: Finally, a close-up on the stern, showing the planking: That concludes Step 12 of the Stage 1 of the construction. I may stop here for a while as I have other (unrelated to ship models) projects to tackle and finish (electronic designs, home repairs and improvements....etc). It may be weeks, but that should allow the other Emma Berry participants to catch up and pass me. Thanks for your attention. Yves
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In MSW incarnation #1, there was a few threads about the work of Master modeler Chris Watton and some upcoming kits that he was designing for Amati. I was wondering if there is anything new in that direction. I remember very vividly two gorgeous models in preparation for Amati: 1) The Bellona (unfortunately at the scale of 1/72 - I wish it would be available at 1/64th)) 2) The HMS Victory at 1/64th, using a new technique based on MDF for the building of the hull and inner decks. Could anybody shed some light on these two kits? And then of course, there was also the Revenge: Thanks in advance. Yves
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Quick update for tonight. Pictures will come later. I have started assembling the covering boards which are the foundation plates for the bulwarks. The two halves are assembled using CA glue. It will be necessary to fine tune the cut at the stern so as to be as close as possible to the shape of the transom. Before gluing the covering boards, it is imperative to: 1) Fair the hull as much as possible. The part located near the deck must be as smooth as possible as it will be tricky to fair the hull when the covering boards are installed. Most likely they will get damaged in the process. 2) Smooth the deck beams, carlings and knees and make sure that the convex shape of the deck (port to starboard) is finely obtained and to your liking. 3) Have the king plank in place and the mast and bowsprit pawl-bit inserted to verify the proper alignment of the plank. When satisfied, the covering boards can be glued. I decide to glue them one at a time using CA glue in a couple of points to position them and later on soaking the boards, knees and clamps with white glue that will be absorbed by the wood for a stronger bond. When gluing the covering boards, make sure that the outside edge of the stanchion holes are flush with the outside edge of the frames. The covering boards are left like this, until the hull is fully planked and the bulwarks built up. Later on, they will be sanded flush. Some of the stanchion holes are conflicting with the frames and we will deal with those on a case by case. It is expected. This completes the so called "STAGE 1" of the Model Shipways booklet. Yves
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From now on, I am slightly diverging from the Model Shipways instructions. We are now at the stage where the covering boards must be installed (Step 12 of Phase 1 in the instruction booklet). These covering boards must be glued together (front and rear). When secured, they must be installed on each side of the boat. I am not sure how this can be done without glueing the Kingplank first. As a matter of fact, both covering boards are resting at the tip of the bow, on the special cut of the kingplank. Therefore, I decided to install the kingplank, before moving to any covering boards installation. In the previous steps, we had prepared the main mast and the bowsprit holder. These two parts will be necessary to position perfectly the kingplank. Before glueing it, the kingplank will be scribed as if there was a main plank in the middle and one smaller plank on each side (size is identical to the strips used to plank the remainder of the deck). It may be necessary to soak in warm water the kingplank, which must be bent quite a lot, to embrace the curvature of the front deck. Prior to this (and it could be done afterwards), I have faired the hull entirely. Then the visible (through the opening I am planning to leave) frames have been stained with a brown alcohol based color (Micro Mark and also available from a Canadian reseller). It is of utmost importance to fair the hull before glueing the covering boards as these are slightly wider than the hull and will be sanded at the end after the hull has been fully planked. If you try to fair the hull, after having glued the covering boards, you may damage these delicate boards inadvertently. See you soon. Yves
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Thank you Craig. You may actually catch up with me at some time, as I am not very fast and have no more than 15 to 20 minutes per day to dedicate to this build. Anyway, I finished the stern and here is again a full picture of the craft showing the intricacies of the beams and carlings. Quite beautiful, I must say (Hey, it is okay to be happy and proud of what we are doing....): A close up on the stern. The rudder axle box has been completed and sanded flush with the rest of the deck: Although, the plan does not mention anything about it (or I could not find it), the inside of the transom is planked on the real boat. Therefore, we are going to plank it as well. I am leaving a small gap between the last deck beam and the planking to insert the little strips that will be used to plank the deck: The transom planks have been soaked in warm water to ease their bending. The central pins are pushing upwards, whereas the side pins are giving some curvatures to the planks. We are almost finished: A little clean up of the excess of white glue in the groove seems like a good idea, before it dries. The outside part of the transom will be planked as well, as is the real boat. This will be for a next and upcoming installment of our Emma C Berry saga in ten zillions parts. Yves
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Craig, Welcome to the world of Emma C Berry. It is actually exciting and stimulating to have currently three persons building the same ship: Don Farr, yourself and me. There may be others, but they did not make it public yet. It is true that the building of the frames must be made carefully. Assemble each frame independently, and glue the floor every time one frame has it. Then use the jig to position each frame one at a time, starting from the bow all the way to the stern. The installation of the clamps change the picture completely, and your hull will become suddenly very stiff and solid. Cheers. Yves
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Ben, I understand and agree with you. I was just wishing and thinking out loud..... Yves- 149 replies
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Ben, I wish that when Chuck is done with enhancing his home, he finds the time to produce a small series of add-on accessories for his kits distributed by Model Shipways. The list of parts that needs to be replaced grows with each kit produced: - Carronades for the Syren (although, MS did an effrot by providing free replacements for the ugly appendices that came with the kit). - Figure head for the Syren - Figure head for Confederacy - Stern decorations for Confederacy - Cannons for Confederacy (turned and in brass) - Plans for Confederacy rigging - Kit for Confederacy rigging ...etc A small business of retrofitting parts could actually be created without hurting Model Expo in any ways and would contribute to turn these kits into masterpieces. Yves- 149 replies
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Ryland, This is a beautiful Build Log. I love how you present the kit, the parts, the plans and all your step-by-step progress. Darn, it makes my mouth water just watching you build that gorgeous kit. Once again, I am going to have to invest in Chuck Passaro, Inc. I'll be following closely. By the time you are done, your Build Log will become the De Facto Practicum. Yves
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I wonder how the stern decorations provided in the kit compare with the castings from Chuck.... I know the bow figure is a fiasco in the Model Shipways kit. Yves- 149 replies
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Folks, As you may remember, we are moving from the bow to the stern (nothing radically unusual there ). The central part of the ship is now fully kneeled and beamed (am I inventing new words?). I am still using the section of wood located between two laser-cut main beams, to build the smaller deck beams. The section above the bunks room is now completed and ready for the deck planking. The stern of the craft is a little bit trickier, but not by much. It is necessary to file two pieces of a main beam (laser-cut) and bevel it to create a slant corresponding to the inclination of the stern board. The beam ahead of the tiller shaft must be filed carefully to embrace the rudder shaft box. It is easier to do than to describe. At this stage, I have 6 knees left to cut (yeah !!!!!) and one more smaller beam and all the beams and carlings will be done. View into the bunks room: and view of the stern skeleton: Finally, an eagle eye view of the whole enchilada: And now time for a nap...... Thank you for your interest and encouragements. Yves
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Folks, Since we do not have a repository for the Syren (Model Shipways) any more, I am posting the good news that Model expo started shipping and distributing the new castings of the Carronades for the kit Syren. I just received mine today and here is the new casting based on the original and revisited mold by Chuck Passaro: On top is of course, the ugly "appendices" that were shipped with the kit. On the bottom, is the new and much cleaner Chuck Passaro casting. Yves
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Folks, Not much progress this past weekend as I was not home. The bow and middle sections of the craft are finished, as far as carlings and deck beams go. I have carved all the knees by hand, using saw, files and sand paper. The whole assembly is sanded smooth, using a block to keep the original shape of the beams, as much as possible. The whole deck has a convex curve from portboard to starboard and a concave curve from bow to stern (like most boats). Another view showing the curvature of the deck: At this stage, before installing the King Plank and starting the planking of the deck, all the inside details must be built and secured with glue as any intervention inside the hull is made almost impossible without the use of long and tiny brussels. On this model, the starboard side of the deck will be open showing the deck details, knees and the inside of the boat. We still have the rear deck to build and some details around the bunks. I am thinking about a couple of pillows, mats and some tiny details that may become visible through the various openings. An additional ladder will be necessary to access the bunks room. Stay tuned. Yves
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Don, The wood used for the clamps is basswood of 1/16" x 1/4" and about 20 inches long. They are glued to the frames with yellow carpenter's glue. For the deck beams, as indicated I used all the main beams (provided in the kit) and the smaller pieces of wood left in between on the laser-cut sheet. The smaller pieces are slightly less deep, which is perfect and very realistic, giving the illusion that the main beams are bigger. With this way of doing it, the deck has a regular and monotonous shape. For the knees, I paid special attention to the knees that will be visible (I intend to have a part of the deck under repair) and used the plan rather liberally. For ultimate pickiness, you could trace the knees on the wood using carbon paper or tracing paper and cut them with a scroll saw. Thank you for your encouragements. Yves
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A few progress over the weekend. I have decided to concentrate on the bow of the ship and finish as well as possible all these "pain-in-the-@$$" knees. I do not have a scroll saw and each knee is cut by hand and filed by hand. It is very time consuming and not much progress is done. Below is a picture of the center of the craft, showing the intricate deck beams and carlings: Moving to the bow, I have almost completed the knees. I am just missing a small triangular piece that will go under the Kingplank and make this one very stable and solid. The original knee is open with a small oval cut, which I skipped. The center knee responsible for holding the mast requires some careful planning and filing as it will drive the orientation and inclination of the mast. Careful measurements must be taken. In my case, the mast is perfectly perpendicular (Starboard/Portboard) and only a tiny shim may be required for the rear/forward leaning and to lock the mast in place, on the keelson: Because there is also the need to build the mortise for the bowsprit, I decided to change pace and instead of fabricating more knees by hand (no pun intended...), I jumped to the building of the spars. I remember reading the Syren Build Log by Chuck Passaro, who admitted that his favorite part in a ship project, was to build the masts and spars. I have to agree with him on this one and found the polishing and shaping of the bowsprit a very relaxing and involving activity. The shape is constantly evolving, as it moves from 4 sides to 8 sides, coming back to 4 sides again, to 16 sides with a flat top allowing the crew to walk and store the genoas and gibs.....to finish simply round. Here again, I am using Chuck's little secrets to turn a piece of basswood into something resembling a precious wood, polished and smooth like pear or boxwood. After finely sanding the bowsprit, I rubbed it using a piece of white cotton with some Wipe-on-Poly. This chemical prepares the wood and covers it with some kind of acrylic barrier that seals the pores and stains my cheap basswood with a beautiful light golden hue. The picture does not make justice to the actual quality of the part finished. At the end, it will be painted with acrylic white and black colors, but in full honesty, it could stay like this and be simply marvelous. To finish our presentation tonight, a picture of the bow with its mast and bowsprit installed: Stay tuned. Yves
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Folks, I have made little progress recently and I am working on installing some of the main deck beams, concentrating on the bow and front of the ship. I still have to build a third ladder for the access to the bunks cabin (from the rear house). I have debated about installing the ceilings in the inside of the boat and decided otherwise. The three main reasons are: 1) I am too advanced with the installation of the deck beams, which is making the planking of the ceiling a nightmare. 2) There is very little data to how the ceiling was installed in this craft, and the renovated Emma in mystic does not have any, to my knowledge. 3) I want to be able to see through the hull and the ceiling would prevent a view of the well and the bunk cabin. 4) I am lazy .... Hopefully, I will post more pictures soon. Yves
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A few little progress: access ladders and a couple more knees. The ladders are built using the leftovers of the main clamps. They are respectively 4.3 mm long and 4.5 mm long. Width is 1/2 inch or 12.7 mm for the rungs. I decided to install 4 rungs/steps on each. The basswood of the ladders is first wiped with Wipe-on-Poly to remove some of the grain and prepare the wood to staining. I am using these tricks from Chuck Passaro described on his multiple threads about building Syren and Confederate. The wood is then stained with Sherry Min-Wax. It is very light in color and will stand out better in the dark confines of the inside. Small paper strips are cut and glued to simulate the metal parts used to secure the ladders to the floor and frame of the ship. Tiny drops of AC glue are supposed to represent bolts or rivets. Mine are not too realistic and I should use liquid AC next time instead of the Gel glue. It may create a rounder and fuller bubble. The ladders are installed in the hull, leaning against the well. The front Ladder: and the rear ladder: Finally, I made two more knees and used again the in-between parts of the main deck beams (from the laser cur sheet) to build the intermediate beams: With the ladder installed and pretty much the interior of the ship finished, I can move ahead and finish building the deck beams. Once this is done, access to the inside of the hull, will be almost impossible with my big fingers.... Yves
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Folks, Here is the picture I found on the Internet, showing the inside of the Emma C Berry during restoration. As you can see, some of the frames have been doubled and painted white, as part of the restoration process. Clamps, knees and deck beams have also been protected by a coat of white paint. Only the original frames seem to have kept their patina. I may do that on my model: use an aging wood stain for the frames and paint all knees and deck beams with white acrylic. It should look good and allow a lot of inside details to stand out. Yves
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Guys, Thanks for your compliments and encouragements. I do not have too much time, just a few minutes every day to dedicate to this build, so it will go slow at times. Right now, I am working on the knees and deck beams. I am planning to show a portion of the deck un-planked and thus must build the knees and a maximum of details underneath. However, where the deck will be covered, I may not do the knees, or replace them by a piece of wood of the proper thickness. For the time being, I have done two of them, in the center of the deck where they will be visible from the top or from underneath, through the opened hull. Model Shipways provides in the kit a small laser cut sheet with only deck beams. Unfortunately, and this issue has been raised by other modellers, the curve and shape of these deck beams are not matching the main beams, causing an uneven deck. I solved the problem by simply not using the small laser cut sheet, and relying entirely on the main deck beams and the pieces of wood, in between them. The fact is that these separations are of the exact same curvature, and are slightly less thick than the main beams, making it a perfect fit. The result as you can see is very good and the curve of the deck is constant and even. To install the pseudo deck beam, just cut them off of the main laser cut sheet, place them equally/centered across the hull, as if they were a main beam, and mark your measurements before cutting the pieces. Now, we just have a few more knees to build and a lot of beams to cut and sand gently. In the restored Emma C Berry at Mystic Seaport, the knees and deck beams are painted in white color. Although it is not possible to board Emma and go below, I came across some pictures on the Internet showing the inside of the hull during the restoration. All the new double frames, knees and deck beams are painted in white. I may do that on my model. We'll see. Yves
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