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Sitting at this stage for the last few days, i am exploring ideas how to fix this issue... There are some: 1. Due to the mistakes in the Counter/Fascia positioning, the lower rail on the Galleries is well, too low, hence only the bottom part of the decoration will fit (still have to reposition that one rail tho) 2. i screwed up both the Gallerie length forward as well as the fascia curve on the Starboard side (on port too but it's less prominent there) So what i will have to do, propable next steps: - Fix the rail position so it is paralell to the middle - attach the lowermost decoration below the gallery - Design some new decoration to go in the space between the middle and lower rails - move the "flower" which was supposed to be in front of the galleries to the back (already done as you can see, there was a big gap at the back and the flower wouldnt fit in the front) The Gold paint is refusing to stay properly on the frieze work, i will have to do touch0ups before i start with the deadeyes (after fitting the deadeyes this area will be inaccessible by brush i think)
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a lot of the models would float, as i believe most of us are sealing the Hulls with Varnish, but in case of all the Sailing Ships, they are too top-heavy and lack any ballast, so they'd float only in calm water, any wind or wave would make them fall to the side and sink eventually at least that is what i think, havent tried it (yet[tm])
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Decorations Commencing. I am Actually enjoying this a lot, every 5 minutes i spend on the model gives visible changes (yes, i noticed now i have forgotten to clean up one of the vertical tabs of the molding, cant really do anything about it now, maybe will try to rip it out but i am afriad that it would damage too much around it)
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oh, yes, please, that's something which is on my list of considerations as well
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I was looking at paintings and also at the surviving ships of the Era (Victory, Trincomalee, Unicorn, Constitution) and obviously they are all painted black. While it's definitely/propably not 100% how they looked at launch (and the 2 Leda class being later ships), it's definitely not wrong to paint black, alhough i would love to have some kind of contrast, hence my considerations between white and ochre below the wales (i can start white, go ochre and then black if it doesnt look good :D)
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I have cut the vertical Tabs connecting the long pieces together with a thin knife plade and i use a file and sandpaper only between the places the Tabs have been. When glued to the model, the Cuts will be hidden behind the supporting knees of the chainplates/Channel so even if they are smaller by a tiny bit, it wont be visible (if you wanted to Look at those places on the finished model, you'd have to Look behind the assortment of lanyards connecting the deadeyes)
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Yes, Chopping them up makes it easier to DeChar - also, i have removed all the linings between the gunports before gluing the molding in place and shaped and fitted the pieces which go between the gunports separately (mostly because i realised, that James' approach of cutting them with pliers and filing in place destroys the paintwork inside the Gunports in my case, also the pressure of pliers can destroy the mouldings themselves ). Starboard side is a work in progress now, scraping the mouldings one by one now and only will start gluing when i have all cleaned up (takes time but i can do these parts during Conference Calls at work). Looking at the pics tho, one thing i wont be able to do is to leave bare wood below the wales, i screwed up here as i forgot the wale pattern when i was doing the 2nd planking (the "best" 3 planks are hidden under the wale) and it just doesnt look presentable now. I am thinking between White and Ochre paint for the area between the wale and waterline (if i choose white, i'd consider coppering below the waterline too)
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After failing to fit the Bow Rails in one piece, i went with Chucks suggestion to chop up the rest in more manageable pieces. The cuts on the Vertical connectors will be hidden by the Channel Knees. End-Result on Port Side: Some corrections in the Wale paintjob required (also some touchups in the Quarter gallery Area) and i can move to the other side
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I second that, this Kit is designed in such a Superb way, that even on a low skill level and with little patience one can achieve a passable result which might be okay for some builders (and especially until now i havent encountered any real showstoppers which might result in this kit not getting finished) Of course, the more skill and patience you bring, the better the end result but in the end it's up to the builder what level of quality they want to achieve and if some just want to "slap it together" just to have a personal feeling of achievement, then that was perhaps not your intention, but i wouldnt berate anyone for that
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Planking Question
Jasseji replied to Malazan's topic in Building, Framing, Planking and plating a ships hull and deck
Maybe this will help: The Garboard plank is basically the first 2-3 Planks, some make id from a piece of wood double the width of the normal planks, some just do it from 2-3 normal planks shaped accordinglyso at the bow it's paralell to the keel (Reference pic from https://modelshipworldforum.com/resources/Framing_and_Planking/plankingprojectbeginners.pdf). Also regarding rabbets, on some kits you dont have to make the rabbet by yourself, only you glue a thin sheet of wood on the keel and stem which is a bit smaller than the keel itself (usually done for the 2nd planking) Like here on the Vanguard Models Sphinx: If your kit doesnt have this option, you could always add some 0.5mm veneer to act as a liner for the keel and stem and this way you would create a Rabbet more easily than cutting into the original keel material -
I have to fix at least the upper edge. It would be better definitely if i'd try to make the decoration in 2 parts - the blank "Cartouche" painted blue and then 3D Print figures and lettering separately. I'd have to see if i can re-create the figures in Blender or Maya, dont suppose @chris watton that it would be possible to order that separately somehow ? Here is the Effect of the Gold paint on the PE Decor, i like it and it is very easy to paint actually:
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Indeed Ron, please join the party and provide a Link to your log (also i dont mind you spamming my Log with your pics, please feel free to do so whenever you feel like it, i do enjoy the direct Input)
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German isnt native for me either (well, a bit it is but my Main Language is Polish, i just grew up with German). I always understood 'rant' as a passionate exclamation, like "this isnt working as i hoped it Would, wasted so much time!", at least that Was my impression that BE was frustrated that He wasted time on an unsuccesful endeavour. My English is quite good actually on one side but limited mostly to business and technical-IT English, It's 20 years since i needed any real small-talk or day-to-day communication
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Seriously, i do believe that It's a bit stiff lately, meaning, some People do take Things too Serious. @Blue Ensign sorry for my wording, i hope i didnt offend you but my vocabulary is missing some Times and i dont always realise the full meaning of a Word. What i meant is you mentioned your idea on the lining gave you some concerns I think I'll stop Posting at all.
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Ye, i would have also preferred the Gunports not being Red inside, actually considering Black, ideally it would be if we could keep them unpainted but thet would require lining them up with someting, i do have a lot of pear left so maybe that will do (but looking at @Blue Ensign, he did rant something which i didnt really understand about his lining idea)
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