42rocker

Pete You get so much more "Blame" as you and others keep on posting more stuff that you keep on finding on the HMS Triton. WOW. I'm sad to say I've hit another delay. I just redid my inks on my printer at work and the main black ink is not working anymore, period. So I have 1/2 $%#$ printed plans and test pages at work. Now at home and the wife's printer does not take legal sheets of paper. Interesting. Well my home printer is of course out of black ink. So thinking about a CISS CIS ink system for my home printer that does take legal paper. Still looking for one on ebay. Have other things to work on to get ready for the next step on this anyway. Also on the few 1/2 $%#$% printed pages that I printed out 4 foot on the scale does equal 2 inches. Nice to see that double check. Adding more details -- well will try to add as much more detail as I can see off from any 1:96 plan out there to my 1:24 build. LOL. As a first scratch build I'm going to try my best. Reading -- done a lot. Seen other builds -- been there took a lot of photos. Books -- bought a lot (don't tell the wife) But end result is that this will be the first scratch build project besides my current house that I'm living in that I drew the plans for and was general contractor for and other than the concrete work did most of the other stuff. Tools -- got the full scale stuff not the small stuff. I think that I'm going to have to go the Harold Hann route and use a full size table saw. Do have sherline mill and lathe and both large and small band saws. Well enough of this going to look at a few parts that I'm working on as I'm building a thickness sander that works on the sherline lathe. Later Tim

Pete38 That's some great stuff that you had put away. Thanks for printing it out and sharing it. Going to make life a lot easier. Thanks Later 42rocker

From everything that I have heard coating the ends of your wood with either wax or paint is a must at the very start. I cut down a couple of sweetgum and split them and then cut them into planks to let dry. Still working on those. Have not found an easy way to do this yet, still learning. Later Tim

You did a great job on that build. I would be proud of it as I'm sure that you are. Good Job. Later 42rocker

Your doing a great job, I hope to do as well in the next few months. Later 42rocker

Also be it noted that I fully understand the word copyright. I have redone and resized these plans for my own personal use. If someone is interested in learning how to redo and resize plans for their own personal use, plans that they already have permission to use, I would be happy to tell them how. My many Thanks Again to the folks that drew up these plans and I would not want to step on any of their toes, or the copright owners toes. So Russ and Don and Joss -- Many Thanks and Thanks again to all that need to be Thanked Mark - mtaylor 1:64 sounds just great for the full size ship. Most folks do the Alfred Warrior in 1:64 and using the same scale for both sounds great. I understand at 1:48 it's about the same size as the Warrior in 1:64. 35 inches Later Tim

The book is great and your model is it's equal. Great Work. Thanks for posting this and sharing it. Later 42rocker

Dave Thanks for the share about Holly Wood and your concern about it going bad in your builds. That's why I'm trying to get this going to I can learn and share with others. Myself I cut down a couple of Sweet Gum trees and then cut everything up let sit for a copy of years then been slowly working on resizing them to something that I can use. Also cut some of that Holly that you were talking about. Going to have to double check the holly before I do anything major with it. Still trying to learn. Thanks for your post. Later Tim

BLAME GAME --- It's time to play the Blame Game. If your Blamed then fess up to it. Sound off right back, go ahead. Lets start the Blame Game. 1st Person to Blame is Pete38. Starts folks thinking out of the box. Does a 1:32 scale cross section. 2nd person to Blame is Mike41 from MSB Does this great Proto-type Bomb Vessel in 1:24 3rd person to Blame is a lot of folks mtaylor, Winston MSB, and the fellow or fellows that did the great job on the plans that I don't know the name or names of. GREAT JOB.. Who were the design folks, please name them so we can Blame them.. 4th Anyone else that was in on the making of this great project. What am I Blaming them for!! 1st My choice of doing this project and 2nd in 1:24 scale. That said my MANY THANKS for the ways that they have pointed me even if they did not know they were doing it. It looks like a great first scratch build project that I'll do in 1:24 scale. Which will match up in scale to a future build (I hope) of the Cross Section of the Bomb Vessel from MSB. From the matching sizes to compare Cross Sections with, to just building in a bigger scale. A few other things pushed me that way. 1st Pete38's build, said build it bigger, then I tried to find a way to print the plans his way. Well don't have a printer that can handle 13x19 paper. Got a quote from office depot of $19.95 per page as they can't do 13x19 so printing next size up makes a total printing cost around $500.00. So did some thinking, then saw the 1:24 model of the Bomb Vessel (MSB) and said that's a nice scale and if I'm going to take the plans apart and redo them to fit 8.5x14 legal paper that I can print on. Then I might as well step them up as I'm redoing them. Therefore I spend about 6 to 7 hours taking the 1:48 plans apart and redoing them to print on several sheets in 1:24. So now I'm starting to prints the plans in 1:24 and still thinking about what woods I'm going to start cutting apart. Hoping to start cutting the wood for the frames this weekend. Thinking about two different woods for the frames redgum and basswood. Then Walnut for the chocks (need to add to the plans, but in 1:24 why not). With ebony for the false keel and basswood for the keel and I like the idea of using ebony for the keelson. Got the ebony keelson idea from mtaylor's nice build (more Blame). Need to find the bloodwood and the holly and a few planks of cherry that I know I have around someplace. Have lots of oak but I think that I'll save that for my wife's cabinet trim. Still thinking about wood types and what I already have. Buying wood is not in the budget right now. So if you have been BLAMED take a large THANK YOU from me to you.. You Blamed folks have given direction and hope to my doing this. I also Thank all of the others folks that are posting their Cross Sections as they are going to be a great guiding path. Going by the idea if they can do it I can try to do it. If anyone is interested in learning how to redo the plans then post in this thread about it and I'll try to work up a how to do it. If your interested in redoing the full ship plans talk to someone else, not me.. I also started a thread in woods about making your own hobby wood. Seen some nice reclaimed Cherry wood work. More Blame for some folks. So if your mad at me for blaming you, well sorry about that, it was all in fun on my end. Your Work was just to good. THANKS FOR THE GUIDING PATH!! Enjoy Life!! Later Tim

Well the title about states it all. Anyone out there been cutting and drying and processing their own?? Besides me? I'm still trying to learn how. But so far I've given it a try on Redgum (also called sweet gum) and some holly. Harold Hahn wrote in his book about getting branch cut offs from his neighbor's apple tree to use. Yes it's a lot of work and time and effort but.. Well anyone else? Lets post about it. If no interest then the thread dies, I understand. Later Tim

Daniel Thanks for the pics showing another way to make the rabbit. But I think that I'll stay with the sherline method of making a rabbit. Ever since I saw a picture of (I believe it was) David Antscherl cutting a rabbit this way in one of his HMS Swan books, I've always thought that this was a better way. As far as the pine wood goes,, well in order to get to see the plans I had to make the keel and false keel and the keelson. I normally like to review things before I get in to deep. So out to the garage grab a piece of broken pine board from my son's karate days and turned on the big grizzy table saw and a few minutes later I had the pieces. Back into the house grab a bit that has the right profile and then into the sherline and a few minutes later I had a rabbit. Then post pics and get the plans. Reviewed the plans (GREAT PLANS) and in the next post I'll talk about my finally selection for scale and why and who's to blame for it. So the pine pieces, well nice practice. Woods see the 5th post down. Now that there is a great woods materials list that has been posted I'll be reviewing but mainly I'll stay with the woods that I talked about in the 5th post down. Looked at some parmarfin a few minutes ago and thinking about using it and then saw some walnut, so still reviewing the woods. Hope to start cutting tomorrow. Later Tim

Another nice list to review. Many Thanks Ok. change that to WOW what a nice list. Thanks for posting that. edited for the third time That's a great link to some great looking models. Thanks Later 42rocker

Great to see this here. Later 42rocker

Steve Thanks for the offer I received it already from another great member. Later Tim

Also is there a materials list for this project? Or any written projects guidelines? Or is it here are the plans go have fun and learn? Use this great message board and talk and get it done. THANKS AGAIN!! Later Tim

Well downloaded the HMS Triton's over 200 pdf's last night glancing at them at the same time. Then loaded a copy of them to a compact flash card to take to put on the work computer so I have a back up to view. All I can say is WOW,, Thanks to that person or everyone that helped to make the project happen. Still thinking about the scale. Well need to start working on a building area and getting some wood ready. Later Tim

As I always say to our vets. THANKS for being there. Later 42rocker

Good Luck with this as it looks interesting. Later 42rocker

Wow, looks like a great model that you have going on there. Good Luck with everything. Later Tim

Thanks Grant. I got it to work. Ra Ra. Later Tim

Test on pictures. Well Thanks as that opened up new areas and I think that this is going to work. So need to press button and press on and hope that the pics show and it works Later 42rocker

Wow Love the outside planking look that you are using. Also thinking about using brass cannons myself. Grant what scale is it that you are using? Also I like the way that your doing the decking and planking, leaving areas open to show the work under. NICE! Might I ask what wood did you use where? That's a big question as I can see a lot of different woods being used. Wow! just has to be said again. Nice Work. Later 42rocker

I like how you kept the false keel long so the you could screw it down. Great way to hold it. If I change scales and redo my first step then I'll make sure that I do the same. This is something that should be adding to the start of the plans for everyone to see. Looking forward to seeing more. Thanks for sharing. Later 42rocker

Well made some saw dust tonight. I'm still doing some finish up work on the house that I'm living in, but I was the general contractor and about everything else. So need to start thinking about detail tools again and working to closer detail. I'm sharing a few pics that I hope will get me into the next step of being able to receive the rest of the plans. Trying to that is. I went over and cut some boards down on the large saw and then setup the sherline mill that I have, to cut the rabbit. See Pic. Worked out using that bit from wood touch to depth that seems to match the drawing I needed to drop the cutting bit about .070. The end cuts that you see in the pic don't look as nice as the other parts, but that's them in 1:48. I'm still thinking about 1:48 or 1:36. I seem to like that larger size. Which means that I'll be making another set of parts if I decide to upsize like others have down. Still thinking about making this a nice large master piece. Still thinking.. Hope to be able to receive the plans for review. Now to work on posting pics in this ,new to me, website. Ok pics posting problem. When to the help section and found the following statement """This will insert an image.""" and a button--- just don't have that button on my screen. Do you have to have a number of posts before you are allowed to post pics?? Or?? Well went to the website that led me to this one and was able to post a build thread with pics attached over there. Please see http://modelshipbuilder.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?7814.0 for my thread build over there and posted pics. If someone would be nice and inform me how to post pics I'll be happy to post then over here also. So whats the next step?? Thanks for this. Later Tim

That is a nice set of plans that Harold Hahn drew. After having lost a (paint can got knocked over) set of kayak plans I've always made 1 personal back up set of plans so I have a working copy and a back up set. Normally as I'm having the backup plans made I'll have the plans scanned. This way I don't have to unroll a set of plans and fight them to check a little thing. Just a few ket strokes and it's there. What wood are you using for your frames? Good Luck with your build. As they say enjoy the ride. Later 42rocker