piratepete007

Looking REALLY good Mark. The ship is looking like a museum model !!!!

Pete

Take care of yourself Mark. Stays and preventer stays looking good.

Pete

Vince (and others),

Euromodel has now corrected the Royal William links.

https://www.euromodel-ship.com/eng/royal-william-i-i.php

Pete

Whow Mark,

That 'little more progress' represents a large amount of time and effort. The ship is giving a good impression of how it will look when finished and you must be excited yourself on how it is all coming together. Well done.

Pete

Bon voyage Ken and take a well deserved rest (well, at least from ship building).  You deserve it. Look forward to you returning to the Forum.

Pete

Vince has just let me know that the link I gave produces a file for hull construction rather than mast construction ! I will prompt Euromodel to correct this when they resume business after the summer holidays.

Pete

Vince,

You obviously enjoy doing this work and who wouldn't with all the possible interpretations that you are free to make such as with the dimensions of the supporting crosstrees/trestletrees. So again, well done - as always - with your current posting. Its really great watching the forum with you starting on the masts, Mark well into the rigging and Ken maybe starting on the ship's boat.

All the necessary detail for building the masts, tops, etc are contained in the file on the Euromodel website - customer assistance/ construction/ Royal William. The specific file which you are free to download is called 'RW.06.MASTS' ....

https://www.euromodel-ship.com/eng/royal-william-i-i.php

Look at page 17 in this file that covers the bowsprit top you have just worked on.

Pete

Ken,

You have always been up front with your written comments and it has made fascinating reading with all it's detail. One cannot but be impressed with all the photos you have posted and the build looks impressive. 2017 for this forum has been greatly enriched by your work (and of course Mark's and Vince's). So take a deep breath indeed, have a few beers and enjoy the rest of the build.

Pete

Thanks Ken  - now I remember. Appreciate your repeating this description and those gun port lids are looking great. Hope the postman calls soon with those hinges.

Pete

Ken, pretty sure you mentioned it before, but what solution did you use for blackening the hinges ?

Pete

Mark - what can be said but yet another superb stage in the RW construction. What a huge effort and well done !!!!

Pete

Vince, you are spot on that the resin hull supplied for the ship's boat is a starting point. Your adaptation is incredibly well detailed and it all looks good.

Pete

Thanks JerseyCity Frankie. What you say about ship movement at different parts of a ship is so well explained. 

Just intrigued to hear 'what countries did what and when' in relation to safety on the bowsprit. In my limited experience, I have seen very little written.

Pete

Thanks for the quick reply Pat. Yes, I have seen a reference to those 'man ropes' (is that what they are called ?) extending out along the bowsprit but I cannot remember where. If you can put that on your list of things to do, I would really appreciate your doing so. The steps and/ or the ropes seem just a very logical thing to make use of.

Pete

I asked the above question a few months ago regarding the presence of 'steps' extending out along at least part of the bowsprit and am totally ignorant of when and where these may have been used. Found the following image which explains what I am on about. So any comments re these steps would be most appreciated.

Pete

Ken - another one of your amazingly simple techniques that really works. Well done.

Pete

Mark,

What a champion effort - to have completed the ratlines, taken them off and redone them sounds like a nightmare but the end result is magnificent and one that puts your mind at ease. If there were a medal to give for persistence, you would receive it.

Pete

Vince,

The latest updates from you are very impressive and the ship looks so authentic. Well done on the detailing and yes it can be difficult to fit in ship building with the other demands of life.

Pete

On ‎4‎/‎3‎/‎2017 at 1:12 PM, JohnB40 said:

Hello to all,

I have decided to paint the wales on my Unicorn build matt black They look odd being natural walnut as is the rest of the hull,with black upper works. I have given the hull a coat of WOP (non acrylic) about a year ago to seal it (painfully slow build progress). I never have much luck brushing on acrylics,so I bought some Billings Boats enamel paint and thinners. I have lightly sanded the wales with #400 and would appreciate any hints about painting over WOP. Will enamel adhere to this finish ok in the long term? I plan to thin the enamel and multi coat. Any suggestions paint to thinners ratio?  I will be using Tamiya masking tape to mask the wales. Is there is a better tape to use to prevent bleeding under the tape even with burnishing? A lot questions I know,but I have been staring at this for a while and can't seem to get on with it for fear of making a mess.....Thanks for any tips.

In regards to the last question, I have used automative tape that auto sprayers place on vehicles when separating different colors. It is not expensive, can be purchased from auto supply places and comes in various widths. The one I use is only 6.5 mm wide. When pressed down firmly, the result is superb and no bleeding occurs.

Pete

A better solution for the cathead installation, Ken.

Pete

Ken,

As a result of seeing your posting of those four photos and then doing some research, I learnt quite a bit.

After a major re-fit, the Royal William was launched in 1719 but not commissioned and remained laid up until 1756. In 1746, the idea of cutting her down to 2.5 decks was considered but that was finally rejected in 1748. An Admiralty Order of 1755 ordered her to be reduced to 84 guns spread over three decks and she was finally re-registered as a second rate in 1757. She then notably saw service in the Seven Years' War (1757 - 1763).

Pete

Ken - I would be tickled pink to receive them !!!!!!!!!

Pete

Ken,

The writing describing dimensions, date of launch and shipwright's name on the second photo is NOT the same as the writing style on the last photo. So maybe that reflects different dates ? Just maybe the drawings were completed during or soon after the re-fit which would suggest a higher degree of authenticity ? Just thinking out aloud.

Pete

Ken,

Thanks for posting those drawings relating to the final re-fit of the Royal William. Can you take a photo just showing the quarter galleries ?

Confirmation of the actual launch date as 3 September in 1719 and name of the Master Shipwright are two facts I did not know. What I do know is that the success of building ships in the 17C and 18C was largely due to the incredible interest generated by the construction of admiralty models and these drawings from Ken may be a set based on such a model (s). The absence of decorations is of no surprise since they did not directly influence the model concept. Like the stern drawing - no evidence of the two sets of doors opening out from the upper gallery. Such things were an 'add-on or refinement' and the admiralty model was more concerned with the actual ship structure.  Individual builds, of course, varied due to skills and knowledge of the shipwrights. So, the actual ship built will have varied from the original model and drawings (if there were any) so, for example, the final positioning of the cathead may well have altered.

In the first drawing, there seems to be a comment (barely discernible) that the RW was converted into a 'gun ship' in 1757 ? Can anybody fill in that bit of history ?

All exciting material !!!

Pete

Mark,

Exhausting work with all that ratting but you must be able to sit there and take a great deal of satisfaction and pride in what you have done.

Pete