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glbarlow got a reaction from kier in HMS Vanguard by gbarlow - FINISHED - Amati/Victory Models - 1:72
Continuing to making progress. The Vanguard is now fully decked and the main deck is finished. Next step is the various rails on the forecastle and poop deck plus the cap rails and finishing up the poop deck furniture.
As you can see in the photos for now I'm not planning to add the masts, so I have stubs cut to finish off the mast holes. These aren't glued in so I can come back some day and add them if I want. Its simply a case of not having a place to put a finished 3 ft long, 3 foot high model. Plus I've been there, done that with my 7 prior models. This one is just about building a '74 on a relaxed pace without the extreme attention to detail and accuracy of models like my Pegasus.
I deviated from the plans with the support beam for the poop deck. Like I had to do with the beams where the boats will sit and the finished beam for the forecastle, I cut a notch in the bulwarks the exact right height and width required to match the beam and decking.
I added a rope to the wheel that wasn't mentioned in the plans. Not sure why, now that the poop deck is installed, it will never be seen again - but I feel better about myself :-)
I also decided on simple breech rope rigging for the cannon - I've done the full blocks and tackle on my prior models, but it required ordering custom blocks. The ones supplied with the kit are way out of scale for this purpose in my opinion, with as little as the cannon are seen and this 1/72 scale of this model I am content with the simpler approach.
If I didn't mention it earlier, the decking is 4mm ash supplied by Hobby Mill. I like the its bright natural color, I've used this on my last 4 models and will continue to use it for any future models. The discoloring is more pronounced in the photos than it actually is, this comes from the water based Poly I use to seal and finish all painted surfaces. It also doesn't shine like it appears as a result of the camera's flash.
The bulwarks were done with swiss pear, also from Hobby Mill mostly because the 4mm width seemed more to scale - but then it was painted red so this expensive wood's nice color is lost. Still the right choice - the 5mm walnut just looked to big (its used on the gun deck, but that really can't be seen much now).
The cabin bulwark matches the color scheme I chose (or made up I guess) but again its lost from view with the poop deck installed.
Its a really big model, with all the wood, pain and glue now on it, its also getting pretty heavy. I'm glad I modified the hull way back in the beginning to better anchor the mounting screws. If I'd just followed the plans and put them just through the keel the model would have split off the mounting base a long time ago.
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glbarlow got a reaction from Shipyard sid in HMS Vanguard by gbarlow - FINISHED - Amati/Victory Models - 1:72
Continuing to making progress. The Vanguard is now fully decked and the main deck is finished. Next step is the various rails on the forecastle and poop deck plus the cap rails and finishing up the poop deck furniture.
As you can see in the photos for now I'm not planning to add the masts, so I have stubs cut to finish off the mast holes. These aren't glued in so I can come back some day and add them if I want. Its simply a case of not having a place to put a finished 3 ft long, 3 foot high model. Plus I've been there, done that with my 7 prior models. This one is just about building a '74 on a relaxed pace without the extreme attention to detail and accuracy of models like my Pegasus.
I deviated from the plans with the support beam for the poop deck. Like I had to do with the beams where the boats will sit and the finished beam for the forecastle, I cut a notch in the bulwarks the exact right height and width required to match the beam and decking.
I added a rope to the wheel that wasn't mentioned in the plans. Not sure why, now that the poop deck is installed, it will never be seen again - but I feel better about myself :-)
I also decided on simple breech rope rigging for the cannon - I've done the full blocks and tackle on my prior models, but it required ordering custom blocks. The ones supplied with the kit are way out of scale for this purpose in my opinion, with as little as the cannon are seen and this 1/72 scale of this model I am content with the simpler approach.
If I didn't mention it earlier, the decking is 4mm ash supplied by Hobby Mill. I like the its bright natural color, I've used this on my last 4 models and will continue to use it for any future models. The discoloring is more pronounced in the photos than it actually is, this comes from the water based Poly I use to seal and finish all painted surfaces. It also doesn't shine like it appears as a result of the camera's flash.
The bulwarks were done with swiss pear, also from Hobby Mill mostly because the 4mm width seemed more to scale - but then it was painted red so this expensive wood's nice color is lost. Still the right choice - the 5mm walnut just looked to big (its used on the gun deck, but that really can't be seen much now).
The cabin bulwark matches the color scheme I chose (or made up I guess) but again its lost from view with the poop deck installed.
Its a really big model, with all the wood, pain and glue now on it, its also getting pretty heavy. I'm glad I modified the hull way back in the beginning to better anchor the mounting screws. If I'd just followed the plans and put them just through the keel the model would have split off the mounting base a long time ago.
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glbarlow got a reaction from WackoWolf in HMS Vanguard by RMC - FINISHED - Amati/Victory Models - scale 1:72
Never mind - I finally found in your log that you created that by bending some 1x5mm board. It just seems surprising to me they'd create such an obvious curve on the model and not provide a part to fit it. And as significantly the neither manual included with the model nor the plans ever say or show anything about it. My Pegasus had a similar height shift on the hull and there was a part for it.
Not cool Chris Watten and Amati, not cool
So now I know I need to make something. Thanks for the trouble...
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glbarlow got a reaction from mtaylor in HMS Vanguard by bwood - FINISHED - Model Shipways
Where did you find the curved pieces for the cap rails? I cannot locate them in my kit.
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glbarlow got a reaction from Canute in Amati Vanguard Cap Rails? Help!
Surely I'm missing something in my Amati Vanguard kit. There should be 6 curved pieces that are part of the cap rails 2 curving from the poop deck 2 near midships, and 2 from the forecastle. I see them installed on other Amati Vanguard build logs but I cannot find them in my kit or on the plans showing the parts.
Can someone point me where to find them in this kit? I must be looking right past them, its quite frustrating knowing they must be there somewhere
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glbarlow got a reaction from tadheus in HMS Vanguard by gbarlow - FINISHED - Amati/Victory Models - 1:72
Continuing to making progress. The Vanguard is now fully decked and the main deck is finished. Next step is the various rails on the forecastle and poop deck plus the cap rails and finishing up the poop deck furniture.
As you can see in the photos for now I'm not planning to add the masts, so I have stubs cut to finish off the mast holes. These aren't glued in so I can come back some day and add them if I want. Its simply a case of not having a place to put a finished 3 ft long, 3 foot high model. Plus I've been there, done that with my 7 prior models. This one is just about building a '74 on a relaxed pace without the extreme attention to detail and accuracy of models like my Pegasus.
I deviated from the plans with the support beam for the poop deck. Like I had to do with the beams where the boats will sit and the finished beam for the forecastle, I cut a notch in the bulwarks the exact right height and width required to match the beam and decking.
I added a rope to the wheel that wasn't mentioned in the plans. Not sure why, now that the poop deck is installed, it will never be seen again - but I feel better about myself :-)
I also decided on simple breech rope rigging for the cannon - I've done the full blocks and tackle on my prior models, but it required ordering custom blocks. The ones supplied with the kit are way out of scale for this purpose in my opinion, with as little as the cannon are seen and this 1/72 scale of this model I am content with the simpler approach.
If I didn't mention it earlier, the decking is 4mm ash supplied by Hobby Mill. I like the its bright natural color, I've used this on my last 4 models and will continue to use it for any future models. The discoloring is more pronounced in the photos than it actually is, this comes from the water based Poly I use to seal and finish all painted surfaces. It also doesn't shine like it appears as a result of the camera's flash.
The bulwarks were done with swiss pear, also from Hobby Mill mostly because the 4mm width seemed more to scale - but then it was painted red so this expensive wood's nice color is lost. Still the right choice - the 5mm walnut just looked to big (its used on the gun deck, but that really can't be seen much now).
The cabin bulwark matches the color scheme I chose (or made up I guess) but again its lost from view with the poop deck installed.
Its a really big model, with all the wood, pain and glue now on it, its also getting pretty heavy. I'm glad I modified the hull way back in the beginning to better anchor the mounting screws. If I'd just followed the plans and put them just through the keel the model would have split off the mounting base a long time ago.
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glbarlow got a reaction from jwvolz in HMS Vanguard by gbarlow - FINISHED - Amati/Victory Models - 1:72
Continuing to making progress. The Vanguard is now fully decked and the main deck is finished. Next step is the various rails on the forecastle and poop deck plus the cap rails and finishing up the poop deck furniture.
As you can see in the photos for now I'm not planning to add the masts, so I have stubs cut to finish off the mast holes. These aren't glued in so I can come back some day and add them if I want. Its simply a case of not having a place to put a finished 3 ft long, 3 foot high model. Plus I've been there, done that with my 7 prior models. This one is just about building a '74 on a relaxed pace without the extreme attention to detail and accuracy of models like my Pegasus.
I deviated from the plans with the support beam for the poop deck. Like I had to do with the beams where the boats will sit and the finished beam for the forecastle, I cut a notch in the bulwarks the exact right height and width required to match the beam and decking.
I added a rope to the wheel that wasn't mentioned in the plans. Not sure why, now that the poop deck is installed, it will never be seen again - but I feel better about myself :-)
I also decided on simple breech rope rigging for the cannon - I've done the full blocks and tackle on my prior models, but it required ordering custom blocks. The ones supplied with the kit are way out of scale for this purpose in my opinion, with as little as the cannon are seen and this 1/72 scale of this model I am content with the simpler approach.
If I didn't mention it earlier, the decking is 4mm ash supplied by Hobby Mill. I like the its bright natural color, I've used this on my last 4 models and will continue to use it for any future models. The discoloring is more pronounced in the photos than it actually is, this comes from the water based Poly I use to seal and finish all painted surfaces. It also doesn't shine like it appears as a result of the camera's flash.
The bulwarks were done with swiss pear, also from Hobby Mill mostly because the 4mm width seemed more to scale - but then it was painted red so this expensive wood's nice color is lost. Still the right choice - the 5mm walnut just looked to big (its used on the gun deck, but that really can't be seen much now).
The cabin bulwark matches the color scheme I chose (or made up I guess) but again its lost from view with the poop deck installed.
Its a really big model, with all the wood, pain and glue now on it, its also getting pretty heavy. I'm glad I modified the hull way back in the beginning to better anchor the mounting screws. If I'd just followed the plans and put them just through the keel the model would have split off the mounting base a long time ago.
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glbarlow got a reaction from BLACK VIKING in HMS Vanguard by gbarlow - FINISHED - Amati/Victory Models - 1:72
Continuing to making progress. The Vanguard is now fully decked and the main deck is finished. Next step is the various rails on the forecastle and poop deck plus the cap rails and finishing up the poop deck furniture.
As you can see in the photos for now I'm not planning to add the masts, so I have stubs cut to finish off the mast holes. These aren't glued in so I can come back some day and add them if I want. Its simply a case of not having a place to put a finished 3 ft long, 3 foot high model. Plus I've been there, done that with my 7 prior models. This one is just about building a '74 on a relaxed pace without the extreme attention to detail and accuracy of models like my Pegasus.
I deviated from the plans with the support beam for the poop deck. Like I had to do with the beams where the boats will sit and the finished beam for the forecastle, I cut a notch in the bulwarks the exact right height and width required to match the beam and decking.
I added a rope to the wheel that wasn't mentioned in the plans. Not sure why, now that the poop deck is installed, it will never be seen again - but I feel better about myself :-)
I also decided on simple breech rope rigging for the cannon - I've done the full blocks and tackle on my prior models, but it required ordering custom blocks. The ones supplied with the kit are way out of scale for this purpose in my opinion, with as little as the cannon are seen and this 1/72 scale of this model I am content with the simpler approach.
If I didn't mention it earlier, the decking is 4mm ash supplied by Hobby Mill. I like the its bright natural color, I've used this on my last 4 models and will continue to use it for any future models. The discoloring is more pronounced in the photos than it actually is, this comes from the water based Poly I use to seal and finish all painted surfaces. It also doesn't shine like it appears as a result of the camera's flash.
The bulwarks were done with swiss pear, also from Hobby Mill mostly because the 4mm width seemed more to scale - but then it was painted red so this expensive wood's nice color is lost. Still the right choice - the 5mm walnut just looked to big (its used on the gun deck, but that really can't be seen much now).
The cabin bulwark matches the color scheme I chose (or made up I guess) but again its lost from view with the poop deck installed.
Its a really big model, with all the wood, pain and glue now on it, its also getting pretty heavy. I'm glad I modified the hull way back in the beginning to better anchor the mounting screws. If I'd just followed the plans and put them just through the keel the model would have split off the mounting base a long time ago.
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glbarlow got a reaction from kier in HMS Vanguard by gbarlow - FINISHED - Amati/Victory Models - 1:72
Turns out I needed only about 25 copper plates to finish - so about $50 and 3 weeks later I've finished the coppering and have plenty of copper for some other project. It's weird that I had enough for the starboard but not enough for the port. If anything I was more efficient on the port. Oh well, its done. The ship is very heavy now.
I've finished the upper gun deck - as far as I'm coning to finish it. I've decided I've built out enough cannon kits in my life so only those gunport that didn't havet lids have cannon mounted, plus a few extra for whatever you might be able to see once the main deck is installed. The gunports with lids are closed and will remain that way. I did all the cleaver work of open ports on Pegasus. Vanguard is enroute with no imminent threat of attack so the ports are closed:-)
If you look close at the photos you'll see some plywood spacers between the outer hull and inner bulkhead. These insure both hulls have some extra support and were helpful in holding things steady when the gunports were cut.
The cross beams that will remain exposed by the main deck were a bit of a challenge. There is no "kit" way of mounting them, basically they are force fit between the bulkheads which is fine if you ship is built perfectly, unfortunately mine isn't so I had to sand a few to make them squeeze between the bulkheads. Gluing, aligning to the plan measurements, and not wrecking the bulkheads took some pre-positioning and dry-fitting to get it all right. I did two things to help myself. I did the measurement work to determine where the ship's boats tie downs need to be and drilled those eyelets in before installing the beam. The cradles are a bit tall, I figured I'd break one in the remaining build process so I'll not install those to later. I wasn't comfortable with the "squeeze fit" for the beam that supports the forecastle of the main deck. So using the stock the beams came from I created a new beam that was long enough that I could cut notches (very carefully to get the right depth) into the bulkheads. I'm now confident this beam will support the weight and any pressure I might apply during the rest of the build. It also took a bit of sanding on the edges of the beams after installation to ensure the main deck is flush to the deck amidships. If there is one absolute of modeling it is that dry-fitting is an essential skill as in pre-planning what is easier now that later (which the instructions or plans never offer) like the eyelets for the ship's boat's tie downs. It's not that it can't be done later, its just that its so much easier to do some things before installation (or before the installation of something else that obstructs the path getting to it). So now on to the main deck. My two year break is apparently over. -
glbarlow got a reaction from Canute in Can i live without a BYRNES TABLE SAW
I have both the Byrnes saw and disc sander. They are more than worth the cost, spending money on any other saw is a waste. I find many uses for both and frankly don't know what I'd do without them or how I did anything before I got them.
There are 4 pages of replies as testament to how good they are. The answer to you question is yes, you absolutely need them.
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glbarlow got a reaction from WackoWolf in Can i live without a BYRNES TABLE SAW
I have both the Byrnes saw and disc sander. They are more than worth the cost, spending money on any other saw is a waste. I find many uses for both and frankly don't know what I'd do without them or how I did anything before I got them.
There are 4 pages of replies as testament to how good they are. The answer to you question is yes, you absolutely need them.
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glbarlow got a reaction from mtaylor in Can i live without a BYRNES TABLE SAW
I have both the Byrnes saw and disc sander. They are more than worth the cost, spending money on any other saw is a waste. I find many uses for both and frankly don't know what I'd do without them or how I did anything before I got them.
There are 4 pages of replies as testament to how good they are. The answer to you question is yes, you absolutely need them.
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glbarlow got a reaction from DBorgens in HMS Vanguard by gbarlow - FINISHED - Amati/Victory Models - 1:72
Continuing to making progress. The Vanguard is now fully decked and the main deck is finished. Next step is the various rails on the forecastle and poop deck plus the cap rails and finishing up the poop deck furniture.
As you can see in the photos for now I'm not planning to add the masts, so I have stubs cut to finish off the mast holes. These aren't glued in so I can come back some day and add them if I want. Its simply a case of not having a place to put a finished 3 ft long, 3 foot high model. Plus I've been there, done that with my 7 prior models. This one is just about building a '74 on a relaxed pace without the extreme attention to detail and accuracy of models like my Pegasus.
I deviated from the plans with the support beam for the poop deck. Like I had to do with the beams where the boats will sit and the finished beam for the forecastle, I cut a notch in the bulwarks the exact right height and width required to match the beam and decking.
I added a rope to the wheel that wasn't mentioned in the plans. Not sure why, now that the poop deck is installed, it will never be seen again - but I feel better about myself :-)
I also decided on simple breech rope rigging for the cannon - I've done the full blocks and tackle on my prior models, but it required ordering custom blocks. The ones supplied with the kit are way out of scale for this purpose in my opinion, with as little as the cannon are seen and this 1/72 scale of this model I am content with the simpler approach.
If I didn't mention it earlier, the decking is 4mm ash supplied by Hobby Mill. I like the its bright natural color, I've used this on my last 4 models and will continue to use it for any future models. The discoloring is more pronounced in the photos than it actually is, this comes from the water based Poly I use to seal and finish all painted surfaces. It also doesn't shine like it appears as a result of the camera's flash.
The bulwarks were done with swiss pear, also from Hobby Mill mostly because the 4mm width seemed more to scale - but then it was painted red so this expensive wood's nice color is lost. Still the right choice - the 5mm walnut just looked to big (its used on the gun deck, but that really can't be seen much now).
The cabin bulwark matches the color scheme I chose (or made up I guess) but again its lost from view with the poop deck installed.
Its a really big model, with all the wood, pain and glue now on it, its also getting pretty heavy. I'm glad I modified the hull way back in the beginning to better anchor the mounting screws. If I'd just followed the plans and put them just through the keel the model would have split off the mounting base a long time ago.
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glbarlow got a reaction from davec in HMS Vanguard by gbarlow - FINISHED - Amati/Victory Models - 1:72
Continuing to making progress. The Vanguard is now fully decked and the main deck is finished. Next step is the various rails on the forecastle and poop deck plus the cap rails and finishing up the poop deck furniture.
As you can see in the photos for now I'm not planning to add the masts, so I have stubs cut to finish off the mast holes. These aren't glued in so I can come back some day and add them if I want. Its simply a case of not having a place to put a finished 3 ft long, 3 foot high model. Plus I've been there, done that with my 7 prior models. This one is just about building a '74 on a relaxed pace without the extreme attention to detail and accuracy of models like my Pegasus.
I deviated from the plans with the support beam for the poop deck. Like I had to do with the beams where the boats will sit and the finished beam for the forecastle, I cut a notch in the bulwarks the exact right height and width required to match the beam and decking.
I added a rope to the wheel that wasn't mentioned in the plans. Not sure why, now that the poop deck is installed, it will never be seen again - but I feel better about myself :-)
I also decided on simple breech rope rigging for the cannon - I've done the full blocks and tackle on my prior models, but it required ordering custom blocks. The ones supplied with the kit are way out of scale for this purpose in my opinion, with as little as the cannon are seen and this 1/72 scale of this model I am content with the simpler approach.
If I didn't mention it earlier, the decking is 4mm ash supplied by Hobby Mill. I like the its bright natural color, I've used this on my last 4 models and will continue to use it for any future models. The discoloring is more pronounced in the photos than it actually is, this comes from the water based Poly I use to seal and finish all painted surfaces. It also doesn't shine like it appears as a result of the camera's flash.
The bulwarks were done with swiss pear, also from Hobby Mill mostly because the 4mm width seemed more to scale - but then it was painted red so this expensive wood's nice color is lost. Still the right choice - the 5mm walnut just looked to big (its used on the gun deck, but that really can't be seen much now).
The cabin bulwark matches the color scheme I chose (or made up I guess) but again its lost from view with the poop deck installed.
Its a really big model, with all the wood, pain and glue now on it, its also getting pretty heavy. I'm glad I modified the hull way back in the beginning to better anchor the mounting screws. If I'd just followed the plans and put them just through the keel the model would have split off the mounting base a long time ago.
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glbarlow got a reaction from Shipyard sid in HMS Vanguard by gbarlow - FINISHED - Amati/Victory Models - 1:72
Turns out I needed only about 25 copper plates to finish - so about $50 and 3 weeks later I've finished the coppering and have plenty of copper for some other project. It's weird that I had enough for the starboard but not enough for the port. If anything I was more efficient on the port. Oh well, its done. The ship is very heavy now.
I've finished the upper gun deck - as far as I'm coning to finish it. I've decided I've built out enough cannon kits in my life so only those gunport that didn't havet lids have cannon mounted, plus a few extra for whatever you might be able to see once the main deck is installed. The gunports with lids are closed and will remain that way. I did all the cleaver work of open ports on Pegasus. Vanguard is enroute with no imminent threat of attack so the ports are closed:-)
If you look close at the photos you'll see some plywood spacers between the outer hull and inner bulkhead. These insure both hulls have some extra support and were helpful in holding things steady when the gunports were cut.
The cross beams that will remain exposed by the main deck were a bit of a challenge. There is no "kit" way of mounting them, basically they are force fit between the bulkheads which is fine if you ship is built perfectly, unfortunately mine isn't so I had to sand a few to make them squeeze between the bulkheads. Gluing, aligning to the plan measurements, and not wrecking the bulkheads took some pre-positioning and dry-fitting to get it all right. I did two things to help myself. I did the measurement work to determine where the ship's boats tie downs need to be and drilled those eyelets in before installing the beam. The cradles are a bit tall, I figured I'd break one in the remaining build process so I'll not install those to later. I wasn't comfortable with the "squeeze fit" for the beam that supports the forecastle of the main deck. So using the stock the beams came from I created a new beam that was long enough that I could cut notches (very carefully to get the right depth) into the bulkheads. I'm now confident this beam will support the weight and any pressure I might apply during the rest of the build. It also took a bit of sanding on the edges of the beams after installation to ensure the main deck is flush to the deck amidships. If there is one absolute of modeling it is that dry-fitting is an essential skill as in pre-planning what is easier now that later (which the instructions or plans never offer) like the eyelets for the ship's boat's tie downs. It's not that it can't be done later, its just that its so much easier to do some things before installation (or before the installation of something else that obstructs the path getting to it). So now on to the main deck. My two year break is apparently over. -
glbarlow got a reaction from tadheus in HMS Vanguard by gbarlow - FINISHED - Amati/Victory Models - 1:72
Turns out I needed only about 25 copper plates to finish - so about $50 and 3 weeks later I've finished the coppering and have plenty of copper for some other project. It's weird that I had enough for the starboard but not enough for the port. If anything I was more efficient on the port. Oh well, its done. The ship is very heavy now.
I've finished the upper gun deck - as far as I'm coning to finish it. I've decided I've built out enough cannon kits in my life so only those gunport that didn't havet lids have cannon mounted, plus a few extra for whatever you might be able to see once the main deck is installed. The gunports with lids are closed and will remain that way. I did all the cleaver work of open ports on Pegasus. Vanguard is enroute with no imminent threat of attack so the ports are closed:-)
If you look close at the photos you'll see some plywood spacers between the outer hull and inner bulkhead. These insure both hulls have some extra support and were helpful in holding things steady when the gunports were cut.
The cross beams that will remain exposed by the main deck were a bit of a challenge. There is no "kit" way of mounting them, basically they are force fit between the bulkheads which is fine if you ship is built perfectly, unfortunately mine isn't so I had to sand a few to make them squeeze between the bulkheads. Gluing, aligning to the plan measurements, and not wrecking the bulkheads took some pre-positioning and dry-fitting to get it all right. I did two things to help myself. I did the measurement work to determine where the ship's boats tie downs need to be and drilled those eyelets in before installing the beam. The cradles are a bit tall, I figured I'd break one in the remaining build process so I'll not install those to later. I wasn't comfortable with the "squeeze fit" for the beam that supports the forecastle of the main deck. So using the stock the beams came from I created a new beam that was long enough that I could cut notches (very carefully to get the right depth) into the bulkheads. I'm now confident this beam will support the weight and any pressure I might apply during the rest of the build. It also took a bit of sanding on the edges of the beams after installation to ensure the main deck is flush to the deck amidships. If there is one absolute of modeling it is that dry-fitting is an essential skill as in pre-planning what is easier now that later (which the instructions or plans never offer) like the eyelets for the ship's boat's tie downs. It's not that it can't be done later, its just that its so much easier to do some things before installation (or before the installation of something else that obstructs the path getting to it). So now on to the main deck. My two year break is apparently over. -
glbarlow got a reaction from Bettina in HMS Vanguard by gbarlow - FINISHED - Amati/Victory Models - 1:72
Turns out I needed only about 25 copper plates to finish - so about $50 and 3 weeks later I've finished the coppering and have plenty of copper for some other project. It's weird that I had enough for the starboard but not enough for the port. If anything I was more efficient on the port. Oh well, its done. The ship is very heavy now.
I've finished the upper gun deck - as far as I'm coning to finish it. I've decided I've built out enough cannon kits in my life so only those gunport that didn't havet lids have cannon mounted, plus a few extra for whatever you might be able to see once the main deck is installed. The gunports with lids are closed and will remain that way. I did all the cleaver work of open ports on Pegasus. Vanguard is enroute with no imminent threat of attack so the ports are closed:-)
If you look close at the photos you'll see some plywood spacers between the outer hull and inner bulkhead. These insure both hulls have some extra support and were helpful in holding things steady when the gunports were cut.
The cross beams that will remain exposed by the main deck were a bit of a challenge. There is no "kit" way of mounting them, basically they are force fit between the bulkheads which is fine if you ship is built perfectly, unfortunately mine isn't so I had to sand a few to make them squeeze between the bulkheads. Gluing, aligning to the plan measurements, and not wrecking the bulkheads took some pre-positioning and dry-fitting to get it all right. I did two things to help myself. I did the measurement work to determine where the ship's boats tie downs need to be and drilled those eyelets in before installing the beam. The cradles are a bit tall, I figured I'd break one in the remaining build process so I'll not install those to later. I wasn't comfortable with the "squeeze fit" for the beam that supports the forecastle of the main deck. So using the stock the beams came from I created a new beam that was long enough that I could cut notches (very carefully to get the right depth) into the bulkheads. I'm now confident this beam will support the weight and any pressure I might apply during the rest of the build. It also took a bit of sanding on the edges of the beams after installation to ensure the main deck is flush to the deck amidships. If there is one absolute of modeling it is that dry-fitting is an essential skill as in pre-planning what is easier now that later (which the instructions or plans never offer) like the eyelets for the ship's boat's tie downs. It's not that it can't be done later, its just that its so much easier to do some things before installation (or before the installation of something else that obstructs the path getting to it). So now on to the main deck. My two year break is apparently over. -
glbarlow got a reaction from mtaylor in HMS Vanguard by gbarlow - FINISHED - Amati/Victory Models - 1:72
Looks like I'm back in business. Cornwall has shipped the copper I need. Once in I can finish the coppering and move on to something more interesting. I put a keel board (I've been gone so long I've forgotten the proper terms) on the keel to finish off the copper there using a 5mm strip of hull planking and stained it natural. Looks much neater than just wrapping the copper.
There is no good way I found to finish off the bow and stern except a single width of copper plating. (that's what the book says to do anyway). I have to say I'm proud of a lot of the work I've done on past ships, the Pegasus especially, but I'm not particularly proud or thrilled with my copper work. Its on (mostly) and it looks ok, but not something I'll EVER repeat. It single handedly stopped me from building ship models for 2 years until I finally decided to just do it (maybe inspired by Nike commercials) but I don't recommend it. Though I'd done it on my much smaller Pickle I think there is enough copper on the Vanguard to (if converted to 14 gauge wire) to wire my work room. Yay...
I'd post a photo but the port side looks like the starboard side above...
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glbarlow got a reaction from Canute in Need Copper Plating for Amati Vanguard - HELP!
Keith, Thank you for the link. I had searched Cornwall's site and failed to locate the copper plating. With your link I was able to place the order, I appreciate it!
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glbarlow got a reaction from Canute in Need Copper Plating for Amati Vanguard - HELP!
Thanks - I sent them and Cornwall an email along with Amati. Seems like something you should be able to find.
Any other suggestions would be appreciated.
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glbarlow got a reaction from kier in HMS Vanguard by gbarlow - FINISHED - Amati/Victory Models - 1:72
It's been a while since I've had an update, and this isn't much of one except to celebrate a small victory, not the big HMS Victory, but a small HMS Vanguard related victory. I've finally managed to complete the coppering...of the starboard side...
I was fortunate to have enough plates to finish, earlier in is this log I noted I ripped off 5 rows at the bow to do it over, glad there were enough extra in the kit to allow for mistakes like this.
I'm not excited about turning it over to see the bare port side I now have to do, so I procrastinated by completing the rudder. Interestingly the brass straps provide in the kit do not appear to be designed to fit over a coppered rudder, the folding points for the two 90 degree turns to wrap around either side are 5 mm wide, the width of the wood, but not with two copper plates attached to the sides. Doesn't matter for me anyway as I always choose to use thick black paper, easier to do and frankly for me it looks better once I glue it on and finish it with water based poly painted lightly on to harden and season it a bit.
Ok, off to the port side. Until this is done I can't get back to the wood working part I like to do. I have to admit though, as big a pain as it is to do it does look pretty nice on the ship.
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glbarlow got a reaction from WackoWolf in Need Copper Plating for Amati Vanguard - HELP!
Keith, Thank you for the link. I had searched Cornwall's site and failed to locate the copper plating. With your link I was able to place the order, I appreciate it!
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glbarlow got a reaction from KeithAug in Need Copper Plating for Amati Vanguard - HELP!
Keith, Thank you for the link. I had searched Cornwall's site and failed to locate the copper plating. With your link I was able to place the order, I appreciate it!
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glbarlow got a reaction from mtaylor in Need Copper Plating for Amati Vanguard - HELP!
Keith, Thank you for the link. I had searched Cornwall's site and failed to locate the copper plating. With your link I was able to place the order, I appreciate it!
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glbarlow got a reaction from WackoWolf in Need Copper Plating for Amati Vanguard - HELP!
Thanks - I sent them and Cornwall an email along with Amati. Seems like something you should be able to find.
Any other suggestions would be appreciated.