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    Elia got a reaction from billocrates in HMS Naiad 1797 by EdT - FINISHED - 1:60 - 38-gun frigate   
    Ed,
     
    Here is another who is thankful for your superb Naiad and the build log, and your having saved the log contents.  I may not post much but have always looked in on Naiad - it has been a joy to read and observe.
     
    Cheers,
     
    Elia
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    Elia reacted to Retired guy in Bluenose by Retired guy - Model Shipways - scale 1:64   
    Made the square bearings as per Model Shipway drawings and then Casey Blacked all gears, bearings and shaft.
     

     
    Then started to work on the wood whelps and that is when I found I had made the shaft wrong, while I was looking at the pictures I thought there was a step and when I glued the first ones I could see there was no room for the shaped whelps so re-machined a new shaft.
     

     
    Started to make the riding Bitt, cheek and knees adding in the square hole for bearing, this I machined in the mill and all wood was Boxwood
     

     
    Added the deck pads which I did not have the first time and filed chamfer to both Bitts and then glued knees to Bitts
     

     

     
    After that I started back on the wood whelps for rope hawser, made as per LB Jenson book but the shaped whelps I went as the picture, made all wedges so total of 20 pieces made from Boxwood to make up rope hawser.
     

     

     

     
    Installed gears to see how it looked at this stage and also to start making the double pawl, here is a picture of old and upgraded
     

     
    Pawl bracket machined .134" x .210" base part was .012" thick and sides with holes was .010" thick, pawls were .076" wide and had a taper on each one 
     

     

     
    Added four .013" holes in base so that I could add four bolts
     

     

     
    Looking not to bad 
     

     

     
    Next up was to work on the Chain Hawser started by making pie shape pieces to go around shaft and then machined the wooden sheave which go on the outside (I think it is called a sheave)
     

     

     

     
    Last ting was to add the iron whelps, looking at the pictures I think there was four and that is what I have done, but looking at Model Shipway drawing I can see eight so does anyone know how many? I can easily add the other four. 
     

     

     
    I am really glad I upgraded and enjoyed making all these parts.
     

     
    Until next time
     
    Regards
    Richard
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    Elia reacted to Retired guy in Bluenose by Retired guy - Model Shipways - scale 1:64   
    While I was changing engine box I noticed the boom crutch I made was not right as per the drawings (I think I was looking at Phil Eisnor drawing) and I had put the shaft for the engine hoist to low so have now made out of Boxwood as per the drawing provided, did find a picture on the web to help with my build if not allowed please remove.
     

     
     
     
    Making the new boom crutch I looked at the kit supplied items and again the white metal parts were not very good and also see how I had made awhile ago.
     

     

     
    Started by making the bearings out of brass and 1/32" shaft (it said on the drawing provided shafts were 2 1/4" dia) then made two pinion gears, one which will go under winch gear and the other to go on counter shaft stand, size was .148" dia x .044" thick and made it 12 tooth should have been more but only had a .020" ball cutter, this worked out to one tooth every 30 deg, did use two cutters started with a .031" ball cutter and finished off with the .020" ball cutter.
     

     

     
    Then I looked at the winch gear and it didn't look right with my pinion gear so made the teeth part .045" wide by .500" dia made this with 36 teeth so every 10 deg used a .04" ball to start and then finish off with a .031" ball, then put in the mill and cut spokes did it right and cut six 😃 did the spokes by eye so they are a little out here and there, but it did match the pinion teeth fantastic.
     

     

     
    In the end made all teeth an 8 tooth, and two 13 tooth (one should have been an 12 tooth but who's going to count 🤔) then made the bell shape winches and the teeth parts for the Pawl's
     

     

     

     

     
    Didn't like the Pawl's supplied in white metal so made both out of brass
     

     

     

     
    The last thing I made which was the most difficult was to make the counter shaft stand again did not like the white metal one, it was bigger than the drawing so made from brass angle and brass sheet, bearings I machined from brass rectangle each stand was made from six parts and soldered together, all parts were then blacken with Birchwood Casey brass black, last things to make will be the levers for clutch.
     
    Whit metal stand

     

     

     

     

     

     
    This was a first for me to make gears, and I found I had a great time making all of them and I do feel it is a big difference from the supplied parts.
     
    Until next time
     
    Regards
    Richard
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    Elia reacted to Retired guy in Bluenose by Retired guy - Model Shipways - scale 1:64   
    Looked at Gary's (FriedClams) Bilge pump on his 1920 New England Stonington Dragger and he built a Edson Model #2 so looking at the drawing of Bluenose supplied it did not look the same so I have gone with the drawing.
     
     

     
    Made some rough sketches 
     

     
    Machined the body first out of 5/16" brass bar here it is just taken it off the lathe
     

     
    Machined the top brackets
     

     
    Once all that was done, cut the part were the water would flow out and ground sides so that I could solder a piece of bent brass to the body, also machined the bottom tabs for mounting pump
     

     
    Then parted off then press fitted it upside down onto a piece of wood and machined the excess metal between tabs also drilled the holes in tabs for mounting.
     

     
    Then made the mount plate with a small piece tube for easy of gluing to deck
     
     
     
    Blacken the mount plates and made them so they would be parallel and flat because the deck has a curve, did carve out a step so they would sit right 
     
      
     
    Next was to make the plunger this was .135" dia 
     
     
     

     
    Next was to make the links, I took a piece of 1/16" tube machined the sides to get .049" then soldered this to a piece of brass same width, but I did notch it with the angle as per drawing
     

     
    After some cutting drilling and clean up got the links looking as per the drawing supplied then made the handle started with the width of the tube hole then filed to shape, got to do the second one, blacken the two pumps at this time
     
     
     
    Got them just sitting there not mounted but they turned out ok
     

     

     
    Thanks to everyone who made a comment and all who looked in and and left a like do apricate.
     
    Regards
    Richard
     
     
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    Elia reacted to Retired guy in Bluenose by Retired guy - Model Shipways - scale 1:64   
    Thanks for your comments Wally and Dave, these are the drawings from LB Jenson book the Bluenose 11 (these are to help with my build if not allowed please delete)
    He shows a drawing of the Bluenose which I have used for stove and chimney and the other two show the inside of the Schooner Caroline Rose.
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    This is part of the Captain cabin
     
     https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/924/YClH68.jpg
     
    This is where I am now and will paint it white inside.
     
    https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/922/5t7AHq.jpg
     
    https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/922/ekzQVo.jpg
     
    Will be adding some curtains where their beds go
     
    Also got the cove painted and also the bowsprit painted and installed 
     
    https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/922/JPAVrw.jpg
     
    https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/922/nzcGYk.jpg
     
    https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/922/MpwQQ4.jpg
     
    Until next time
     
    Regards
    Richard
     
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    Elia got a reaction from thibaultron in Modeling a seine boat for the mackerel fishery   
    Jim,
     
    It is good to see your modeling again.  I remember your Latham build well, including this seine boat and the dory .  Wonderful work.
     
    Elia
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    Elia got a reaction from mtaylor in Modeling a seine boat for the mackerel fishery   
    Jim,
     
    It is good to see your modeling again.  I remember your Latham build well, including this seine boat and the dory .  Wonderful work.
     
    Elia
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    Elia reacted to jlefever in Modeling a seine boat for the mackerel fishery   
    Several years ago, I built the Model Shipways Benjamin Latham and really enjoyed the project. I’m even fairly proud of my results (see link at the end of the article).
    I’ve noticed a number of Latham projects underway elsewhere on the site and that got me wondering if I could be of any help to other modelers.
    Since many of the Latham projects appear to be at least as good and some much better than mine I’m not sure what help I can provide.
    One thing I remember about building the kit was the instructions and materials provided for the ship’s boats were either below the standard set by the remainder of the kit or simply nonexistent. The plans for these boats included in the kit, on the other hand, were excellent.
    I had a lot of fun, basically scratching the ships boats so perhaps someone could benefit from my experience and discoveries.

    The Latham’s plans depict very typical boats that were used to work the purse seine net used in the mackerel fishery, a dory and a seine boat.
    The image above shows my Latham model with the dory aboard in the waist and the seine boat as it might have been towed. The kit instructions indicate that while bigger fishermen carried the seine boat aboard, the Latham was too small and her seine boat would have been towed to sea.
    A small error occurs here, the tow rope is too long for one used when offloading the days catch, the boat should be towed even with the roller on the rail, and too short for towing.
     
    The two following images come from a wonderful old book, The Fishery Industries of the United States, U.S. Commission of Fish and Fisheries, Government Printing Office, 1887.
    If you can find this book, it’s filled, with drawings of the fishing industry ranging from native Americans in canoes to whale ships. It includes drawings of ships fishermen, equipment, fish, maps and a good deal more. This is how fish were pulled from water in the U.S.at the end of the Nineteenth Century.
    The first image depicts the general form of a seine boat along with some of its characteristic equipment.

    The second image shows a seine boat and dory at work. Having rowed the purse sine net around a school of mackerel, the crew is putting their backs into drawing in the purse line, hopefully closing the bottom of the net under the soon to be helpless school.

    So, here’s how I made my little model.
    I started out by copying and cutting out the seine boat plans. The plans were glued to a 12” plywood plank. I then cut out the half breadth sections. Since the half breadth lines are truly half breadth, I needed to make additional mirror image copies to create the full bulkhead profile. The paired sections were glued to scrap wood, trimmed to shape and these bulkheads glued onto the plan.
    I think the stem and stern pieces were the only kit pieces I used. They were glued between the first and last bulkhead and the plank. The bottom portion of these bulkheads, between the keel and the end platforms, will remain in place as the model is completed. A keel was fashioned and spanning the bulkheads, was glued to the ends.

    Next, I bent the top strake or plank, sitting next to the rail, to the bulkheads. It’s only glued at the stem and stern.

    As I started the planking, you will note that scrap wood blocks have been added to the bulkheads below the first strake in order to keep it from slipping out of place.
     
    I applied the planking, using 1/32 thick strip stock working from the keel down and the railing up, working on both sides in parallel.
    Planks are edge glued, avoiding as much as possible the bulkhead formers and held in place using a variety of clamps, wedges, rubber bands, etc. as required.

    Planking was finished in a couple days.

    With the glue set and largely dry, I cut the model off the plywood. With a double ended boat it’s hard to tell but here the stern is to the left and the bow to the right.

    Three of the formers simply fell out as the model was lifted free. The remining formers would prove easy to snap free.
     
    Next were the boat’s ribs. I made these slender pieces by plaining them off the edge of a 1/16” sheet of basswood.
    Looking ahead to a fully ceiled boat, the practically minded modeler might suggest that the ribs could just as well have been left off.
    I enjoyed adding them and think they contributed to getting the hull thickness more nearly correct, besides they add cross grain strength binding the planking together.

    With most of the ribs in place, I’ve started on the “oarsman’s soul, the flat floor below the forward thwarts, presumably where the oarsmen placed their feet while rowing.
    In the bow you see a remaining part of a bulkhead. At this point with all side-to-side support gone, the hull was showing a tendency to squeeze together at the bow. For the same reason, part of the bow and stern bulkheads have been left in place where they will eventually be covered.

    In this view you see the remaining ribs added at the bow and stern, the oarsman’s soul has been completed and steersman’s platform has been added at the stern.
    In this view you can also see the rub rail, two planks below the yet to be installed rail.
    Here you see our boat after the bulk of the ceiling has been added (yes, the ribs are now nearly invisible).
    A thwart stringer and thwarts have been also been added.
    The gap between the thwarts amidships is the space where the purse net was carried as the boat was rowed in a large circle, hopefully around a school of mackerel, while the net was paid out. One end pulled by the seine boat, the other by the dory.

    In this view the ceiling is completed (the ribs are now completely covered) and I’ve started installing bits meant to resemble thwart knees.
    You can also see the small platform in the bow.

    Now the hull has been primed with white paint, Rails have been added, the thwart knees completed and a cuddy installed in the stern where misc. equipment can be stored (note the door and toggle to keep it closed).
    In this view the first coat of paint has been applied. Apparently, it was common to paint seine boats completely white and several references indicate the red(ish) stripe and green bottom.
    I’ve added a pump log and fabricated seven rowing oars and one steering oar.

    Here the first hardware has been installed, a davit to work the net purse lines, a pair of lifting eyes (passing though the thwart and on to the keel), towing eyes stem and stern and along the port side a set of eyes to which the net tackle could be attached.
    The pump has been equipped with a handle but the spout which carried the pumped water overboard is not shown as when it was not in use, it was commonly carried in the cuddy aft.
    Here I’ve fabricated the oar rests. These racks or rests allowed the crew to work the net without tripping over a boat load of loose oars. I suspect the oars were not stowed in this location, as I have modeled them, while the boat was unoccupied and under tow.

    Finally, here she is complete and with the Latham’s other boat, a humble dory. Both were used to draw the seine net around the school and the dory served as a tender while the catch was brought aboard the schooner.
    At 1:48 scale, the seine boat is about 9 1/2“s long and the dory 3 ½” long. I really enjoyed these little projects and I hope you enjoy my story as well.

    Thanks for looking, I hope my thoughts will be useful.
     
    Jim
     
     
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    Elia reacted to frenchguy in Hesper by frenchguy - scale 1/48 - Pilot Schooner   
    So, I finished my Benjamin W. Latham back last December, and resumed working on Hesper. I realized I did not make pictures of the planking in progress, so I have a couple pictures of the planking completed. After planking and sanding, I applied several layers of Gesso, sanding between layers, to provide a good basis for painting and also coppering. Starting this fall, I'll work on planking the deck, bullwarks, stanchions, railing etc..
     


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    Elia reacted to Brianh526 in Smuggler by Brianh526 - FINISHED - BlueJacket Shipcrafters - Scale 1/4" = 1' - plans by Erik Ronnberg Jr. - First wooden ship build   
    Hey guys - Finally completed the Smuggler - posting the remaining pics
     
      

     

     

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

     
     

























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    Elia got a reaction from EricWilliamMarshall in BENJAMIN W LATHAM by GaryKap - FINISHED - Model Shipways - scale 1:48   
    I essentially followed the Ben Latham plans, though as a scratch build I had improvise a little. The steps I took were:
     
    1. Using two views (side elevation and plan view) of the transom develop both a true edge view and a true projected view. The true edge view is essentially a view taken as if your eye is in the buttock line 0 plane (i.e. The ship's fore-aft vertical center plane), above and aft of the transome. The transom has a very gentle curve of bow to it. The Ben Latham plans already include these on sheet 1 of 2 of the plank on bulkhead plans - far left side, mid top-to-bottom of the sheet. The curve of the transom bow is shown as a single curve. Below it is the true projected view of the transom plug.
     
    2. I made a simple shaped jig which followed the arc of the transom.
     
    3. I wet soaked two sheets of (I think) 1/16" thick stock and rubber band clamped them to the jig.
     
    4. Once dry I glued the two pieces together, also clamped onto the jig. I took care to mark the buttock line 0 marks on the upper and lower edges of the blanks.
     
    5. Once that dried I transfered the true projected view to the transom and cut it out of the laminated blank. I think I only cut around its periphery. My memory is a little foggy on this step. I may have done a little pre-beveling....I don't recall.
     
    6. I then had an 'almost finished' transom core (meaning I made it thin enough that I could apply exterior and interior planking once it was sanded to shape).
     
    7. I then could glue this onto the keel. At this pount the aftmost surface edges stand proud of the loft and need to be faired in along with the frames (bulkheads) just forward of it.
     
    8. Once it was sanded and faired it takes a rather odd look - the bevels along the sides and bottom are extremely long due the fact that the transom sits 'almost' (but not quite) with the counter and horn timber. Using a batten or plank you should see the strip lay fair to the bulkheads forward of the transom and lay across those very shallow beveled edges of the transom.
     
    I hope this wasn't too much, nor too difficult to follow, and hopefully helpful.
     
    Cheers,
     
    Elia
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    Elia reacted to hamilton in Bluenose by hamilton - 1:64 - POB - from Model Shipways plans   
    Another quick update on Bluenose. At this point, I've completed the cabin, adding binnacle, skylight and stove pipe - the latter made from some old dowelling I had lying around. 
     
    I had thought to integrate the cabin, hatches and skylight/companionway into the deck planking, but in the end, I decided only to do this with the hatches and fit the other deck superstructures on top of the deck planking - planking around the cabin aft would have been pretty tricky given that the planking does not run parallel to the centre line on the quarterdeck, which the forward companionway and skylight are so small and close together, that (again) the finickiness of the planking was a deterrent. So I put together the hatches, fixed them loosely to the deck to begin the planking process and will fit them permanently once the deck planking has been finished fore and aft of them (this is to ensure that the planking runs evenly around them.
     
    I still have not found a good replace for the now unavailable blacken-it product, with which I always had decent results. With the product I'm using now I feel like parts either don't really blacken at all (likely there is a lacquer or some other coating on the brass that needs to be chemically removed first) or they get really flakey, indicating a very loose chemical bond.....I've read through a couple of threads on blackening and will try some experiments with different ideas/products I've read about here....but I miss blacken-it! So simple.....
     
    Anyways, After getting the hatches together I began on the main deck planking. The photos below show only the two centre strips but at this point I've laid down eight strakes of deck planking, which pushes the planks to the outside edges of the hatches. Now the hatches can be more permanently fixed and the deck planking will continue with the winch pads up in the bows, the nibbing strake run agains the waterways and the remainder of the forward deck planking. It looks a little rough (some bleeding of the simulated caulking seams through the action of the CA...Sanding has minimised this effect and the volume of forward deck features will likely make a lot of the little blemishes fade into the background as building continues....
     
    Enjoy!







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    Elia reacted to hamilton in Bluenose by hamilton - 1:64 - POB - from Model Shipways plans   
    Another update on Bluenose - finished the hull. I first applied a few coats of yellow paint to the bulwarks for the cove and a few coats of white along the hull's waterline region, then masked off where the white waterline stripe and the cove (yellow) are located using 1/16" masking tape. The 1/16" strip is too wide for the cove, but....
     
    I then used a mix of two slightly different shades of red applied one after the other in four coats to get a slightly weathered look to the hull below the waterline and used Bone Black (a slightly bluish black) on the hull above the waterline (three coats here were sufficient). The test for me is always having the patience to wait to remove the masking and reveal the full finished effect. The waterline stripe worked out very well, but the cove needs touching up here and there - the port side is a bit better than starboard and I think a bit of fine knife work will help to clean this up to a decent standard. 
     
    Next steps - finishing the mounting and adding framing strips for cabin and hatches on deck....nice to be moving on to more superstructural work! Bye for now and enjoy!
    hamilton



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    Elia reacted to dvm27 in Speedwell 1752 by dvm27 (Greg Herbert) - FINISHED - Ketch Rigged Sloop   
    Thanks for all the kind comments.
     
    HH - the transom planking is indeed let into the aft fashion piece. The side planking is also let into the fore end of the this fashion piece. Needless to say it is a beast to make with two rebates and rolling bevels! But when done this way the end grain of the transom and side planks are both protected from seawater. Some contemporary models show it done this way and some don't but the NMM model we based this on did.
     
    BE - that is indeed a pisdale which seems a bit unusual but is a feature of the contemporary model. It has a molded feature that is a continuation of the molding of the inner planking.
     
    Wintergreen - I'm sure David would love to collaborate with every single member of this forum...when his plate is empty (estimate 2032).
     
    Trussben - haven't rigged a model in 25 years so looking forward to that. I'm studying the work of Archjofo and hope to emulate his work.
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    Elia reacted to dvm27 in Speedwell 1752 by dvm27 (Greg Herbert) - FINISHED - Ketch Rigged Sloop   
    It's been almost a year since my last update. The reason is that Speedwell has been landlocked in Canada since last November. My very talented collaborator David Antscherl had made and applied all the carvings and I was going to pick her up to rig her just when Covid struck and the border was closed. I have all the blocks, ropes, masts and spars ready but no model. I'm hoping to get her this summer but who knows at this point. At any rate here are some photos of her sporting her wonderful carvings. 

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    Elia reacted to dvm27 in Speedwell 1752 by druxey - a work in progress   
    Well thank you Tom but really, most of the credit goes to David Antscherl. He's the true talent behind all of this. I just prove his work. I've been blessed to have him both as mentor and business partner for twenty years now and it's been a fantastic partnership. I take pride in knowing we have advanced this wonderful hobby to some small degree.
     
    For those not familiar with the actual Speedwell build log it may be viewed at https://modelshipworld.com/topic/370-speedwell-by-dvm27-greg-herbert-ketch-rigged-sloop-1752/
     
     
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    Elia reacted to druxey in Speedwell 1752 by druxey - a work in progress   
    This model at 1:48 scale and the subject of two volumes, is progressing well. Greg Herbert has almost completed the hull and fittings, while David Antscherl has provided the decorative carved works. Masts and spars are also currently under construction by Greg. Woods used in the model are Castello boxwood and holly. The model will be on display at the North-East Ship Model Conference, New London, at the end of April.





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    Elia reacted to ChrisLBren in USF Confederacy by ChrisLBren - FINISHED - 3/16 Scale   
    So 4 years later after completition she looks better as the wood finish has deepend and aged.  I know I should put her in a case - but she looks great as is.  

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    Elia reacted to tlevine in Swallow 1779 by tlevine - FINISHED - 1:48 scale   
    The coppering on the starboard side is now finished.  You can see the difference between the port side with a finish applied and the starboard with none.  I have decided to delay applying the finish until the wale has been redone.




    While doing research for another project, I discovered that the coamings were built several inches too short (8 inches instead of 13).  You can see the difference in the picture below.  Time to rebuild them all.
     

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    Elia reacted to jlefever in Dove by jlefever - 1:48 - Pinky Schooner   
    The Smithsonian plans were all drawn by Howard Chapelle, who had traced the builder’s plans and half model which was then in the hands of the builder’s son.
    In The American Fishing Schooner Chapelle reports that the Dove, a pinky schooner, was designed and built by Sylvester S. Baltzer in 1875 at Preaux Minus Basin Nova Scotia for Captain James George a pilot operating in the Bay of Fundy. She was 42’-11” between perpendiculars, 13’-0” beam molded, the depth was 6’-0 ¼” and she drew 6’-3” at the post.  The Dove was noted for her sailing qualities and for being unusually yacht like. I wonder if the provenance may be important in ways that could affect the accuracy of my model.  Per Chapelle’s report, the builder’s son who had held onto the plans was himself an accomplished boat builder. He retained the half model and construction plans because he intended to build a copy for himself. While the Dove was a late design of the type I believe it’s possible the son may have updated the plans even more with modern schooner fittings as he thought about building it another time.
     
    Chapelle tells us that while intended as a pilot’s vessel, she had the general arrangement and rig of a fisherman. I’m assuming that her use as a pilot allows me to show a finer finish that typical for a fisherman. For example, noting the inscription “Copper Line” on the plans, I decided to use copper plate rather than the typical red anti-fouling paint.
     
    The plans come as four large sheets each featuring half inch to the foot scale drawings all executed in Chapelle’s typical clean descriptive style. The sheets I received were black line copies made from originals that showed some wear presumably from repeated examination and copying. Also probably resulting from the copying process, two of the sheets had minor scale issues.
     
    As  the site hosts have noted at the bottom of this post my original images were in violation of a copyright and appropriately removed. It was also pointed out that if I post an extract from the image it would be acceptable under "Fair Use" rules. This is what I now do. (if you wish to see the full images you can refer to Chapelle's The American Fishing Schooners where they are included).
     
    Hull Plan
    The plans included a hull plan featuring all the lines you would expect along with dimensional information. The lines of the rail and bow treatment are indicated and a scantling Section with helpful framing dimensions is included.

    Figure 2‑1 - Dove Lines
     
    Framing Plan
    A framing plan with considerable detail about the frame layout and member sizes, Cabin and other below deck features are included and two small sections describe the construction of the Dove’s pinked stern rail.

    Figure 2‑2 - Dove Framing Plan
     
    Sail Plan
    A larger sheet with a sail plan (still at 1:24 scale), a table indicating spar dimensions and limited indication of the rigging arrangement. The Dove appears to have many of the rigging features of later fishing schooners. There are also color and finish hints as well as an indication of bow decoration.

    Figure 2‑3 - Dove Sail Plan
     
    Table of Offsets
    And finally, a sheet featuring the profiles of the bow and stern and most interesting a complete table of offsets. A legend on this sheet indicates that the offsets were taken off “the half model”.

    Figure 2‑4 - Dove Table of Offsets
     
    Nice as they are, these plans are not complete. Missing information includes: complete rigging details, a deck plan and a plan showing the rigging line terminations at the miscellaneous pins and cleats. There is also very little on deck furnishings and detailing of the masts and rigging. I believed I would be able to approximate the missing information using Chapelle’s The American Fishing Schooners where the Dove’s plans had originally been published.
     
    As I studied the freshly delivered plans, I started to plan my adventure. Several early decisions would do a lot to shape the following years of effort. They included:
    ·         While the plans were 1:24 scale, I would make my model 1:48 scale matching the Latham’s scale and allowing comparison between the models.
    ·         Since I had easy access to fairly powerful CAD (AutoCAD) I would use that software and the Table of Offsets to develop my model rather than tracing and scaling the lines off the drawings.
    ·         Since this would be an exploration of scratch-built modeling techniques, I would explore more than one technique. Initially I thought I would look at “plank on bulkhead,” “Plank on frame” and solid hull “bread and butter” modeling techniques.
    ·         As near as possible, the models would be 100% scratch work.
     
    Eventually a measure of sanity wedged its way into my thinking. I had already built two plank-on-bulkhead models and wasn’t all that crazy about the method. I decided I’d do the Dove twice, two models in parallel, one model using the plank on frame method, and the other bread and butter methods to create a solid hull.
     
    So, I had a plan and it was time to begin, I was on my way. I had no idea of how long it would take me to get anywhere close to finished. I’m still on the way.
     
    Jim
     
    EDIT:  Jim, those plans have been pulled due to copyright and may not be reproduced.   Here's the text from the Smithsonian:   The catalogs and plans belonging to the Smithsonian Institution are copyrighted and may not be reproduced in any form without prior written permission.  
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    Elia reacted to jlefever in Dove by jlefever - 1:48 - Pinky Schooner   
    Basically the plans available from the Smithsonian are the plans prepared for Chapelle's books. They are typically his drawings at the scale he prepared them (not as printed). For example the Dove is presented in four 1:24 scale sheets three of which appear in Fishing Schooners and an unpublished table of offsets. I think the draftsmanship is more than acceptable but the originals are a bit worn. 
     
    I believe in most cases the plans available are those that appear in one of Chapelle's books so checking out a specific ship in his books is a good way to know what you will get. Generally if it's not in the book, it's not in the plans.
     
    Jim
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    Elia reacted to jlefever in Dove by jlefever - 1:48 - Pinky Schooner   
    In 2008 I decided it was time to make my first expedition into scratch-built ship modeling. This log will follow my progress both past and future as work continues.
    Some of you may recognize this project. As I started and progressed through my models, I posted progress photos and discussions of my work on several model ship internet sites including the predecessor to “Model Ship World”. All of those sites and posts are now gone.
     
    Starting in 2008 I made steady progress on the Dove up until 2012 when my progress came to a rather abrupt halt. I stopped for a variety of personal reasons without ever losing interest in the project and now have resumed my work. I hope to complete the work in the next year. So, this build log will include a lot that’s old and with a little luck something new.
     
    Previous to this project, I had completed two somewhat challenging kits: Model Shipways Prince de Neufchatel and Model Shipways Benjamin Latham (both now posted in the gallery). As many of you may know, like many commercial kits, each of these kits fail to include the full range of details a modeler may want to represent and also include features which are distinctly out of scale or crude. In both cases I sought and found (largely in Howard Chapelle’s works) supplementary modeling data and I spent a fair amount of time on each adding to or correcting elements of the models.
     

     
    Two Doves, well underway
     
    With two completed kits below my belt, I began searching for a new project. It would be a scratch build. I decided that the project should be challenging but not too challenging, should be not too big and should generally follow along the lines of my previous work. In Chapelle’s The American Fishing Schooners I came across the Dove plans and decided that in addition to being fairly complete plans, the ship itself met my criteria fairly well, somewhat challenging, not too big and like the Prince and the Latham an American built schooner. I purchased a set of plans from the Smithsonian and I was off.
     
    Jim
     
     
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    Elia got a reaction from FrankWouts in HMS Bellona 1760 by SJSoane - Scale 1:64 - English 74-gun - as designed   
    Mark,
     
    Here is another camper happy to see your fantastic Bellona build continuing.  Thank you for starting the log again.
     
    Cheers,
     
    Elia
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    Elia reacted to Remcohe in Ducati 1199 Panigale S Tricolore by Remcohe - Tamiya - 1/12 - PLASTIC   
    Hi,
     
    While waiting to get back at my Kingfisher I got back into plastic modeling. I never was interested in motorcycles, but from a modeling perspective they are very interesting. The painting is challanging and putting the thing together is not easy. On top of the kit I used tamiya's Detail-up frontfork set  set for this bike and Topstudio's Detail-up set to replace the brakediscs and add some nuts and bolts. Both additions are recommended especially the frontfork set. For painting I used Tamiya's laquer paint, excellent paint especially for the metal colors. Alle the body panels were polished using Infini sanding and polising sticks to remove the orange peel. I'm sorry that the pictures are not of the best quality, but this was the best I could do in my temporary shop with my phone.
     
    Remco
     
     








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    Elia reacted to SJSoane in HMS Bellona 1760 by SJSoane - Scale 1:64 - English 74-gun - as designed   
    Thanks, Alan, you make me feel a little better!
     
    I have worked periodically through the holiday, making more standards for the gundeck. Only 8 out of 22 to go.
     

     
    As I approach the end of this,  I am thinking ahead to another challenge, explained in Rob Napier's Legacy of a Ship Model book as the "Chinese Puzzle Effect". You have to do A before B, but A cannot be done until B is completed.
     
    I am getting to the point where the guns have to be installed, before I can eventually proceed to the upper decks. But the cannon barrels sticking out are clearly going to get in the way of further outboard work, including planking to the top and painting the wales and friezes. The outer work needs to be done first. Also, cutting all of the mortises in the clamps for the upper decks will make a mess of dust falling into the cannon on the gundeck. So these need to be cut before installing the cannon.
     
    Indeed, just about everything following is in danger of knocking about or dislodging altogether any cannon sticking out of a gunport. I am beginning to wonder if I should install the carriages now, and only towards the end of the project slide the gun barrels in through the ports and then fasten them down. I can't imagine how I bolt the carriage capsquares down onto the barrel trunnions, when I no longer have access from the inside; working entirely through the gunport. And the breech ropes would have been installed along with the carriages (because the rope goes through a ring on the carriage) long before I try to slide a barrel through a gunport; how would I get that rope to fit nicely onto the barrel cascabels, working from outside and not from within?
     
    By the way, I have decided not to plank the outboard edges of the gundeck as a platform for the guns. I really like seeing the lodging knees. So I will make a little 4" base under each gun, which will allow me to pin from underneath into the trucks of the carriage, and then pin the platform down to the beams. I am worried about these coming adrift over time, especially with the vulnerability of the barrels sticking out. So some major anchoring is needed.
     
    Hmmmm......complex problems, these ship models!
     

     

     

     
     
     
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