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Many thanks Crackers. I have just ordered the plans and am casting around for the beam engine. So it looks like I'm committed and it's all your fault. I have a piece of wooden decoration from the original Mary Powell taken when she ran aground and was wrecked on the Hudson so I thought a model of her would be a nice change (when I get a chance!)
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where can find this Awesome model ??
overdale replied to mahmoud sabra's topic in Wood ship model kits
I've done work for the BM in the dim and distant past. They are sticklers for aesthetics and wouldn't allow a presentation that sits so low it obscures the underside of the model. If it was a modern model it would be far more likely mounted on an acrylic stand to allow full view of the hull. They also wouldn't accept the nameplate sticking up in front and detracting from the model either. The nameplate would be separate from the stand, to one side of the model. The sails are far too heavy, the stitching is too prominent and over scale. -
where can find this Awesome model ??
overdale replied to mahmoud sabra's topic in Wood ship model kits
Certainly looks like Soleil Royal. Judging by the prominent stitching on the sails and the way it is mounted I'd say it was probably a prop rented for the film and not a British Museum model. -
Frigate Boston by overdale - FINISHED
overdale replied to overdale's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1751 - 1800
I'm afraid my scribbles wouldn't make much sense to most sane people Charlie. I only drew the frames for the center section, the rest were just bulkheads. I will take a look and see if anything can be made of them, (but I doubt it as they are now covered in glue and paint ) -
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overdale replied to overdale's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1751 - 1800
Daniel, I had an opportunity to read through your build log and I'm impressed. The Boston is really sweet looking. When I checked your profile I saw you had a website too. A look was in order. Again, your work is first rate. Especially eye-catching is the diorama of the Nuestra Senora de Atocha going aground. I will surely pull up a chair and follow the rest of the Boston build. Tom You are very kind Tom. I'm glad you liked the website. I'm a general purpose model maker but I seem to be getting a reputation for shipwrecks these days. Someone posted on the Mel Fisher museum (Atocha) website about the model, "Why would anyone want to buy a model of a sinking ship?" I'm not sure if its a compliment or not -
I'm considering building a model of the "Mary Powell' a beautiful Hudson river steam boat. I know that some kit manufacturers like Dumas and Bluejacket make dummy versions of the walking beam engine for their kits like 'Portland' but I can't see them advertised as separate fittings available to buy anywhere. Anyone know where I might look..? Dan.
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Frigate Boston by overdale - FINISHED
overdale replied to overdale's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1751 - 1800
Glad you like it crackers. I just hope the rest of the build goes to plan. There's a lot that could go wrong yet. Fingers crossed! Dan. -
Frigate Boston by overdale - FINISHED
overdale replied to overdale's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1751 - 1800
Thank you for the kind words Charlie. You are right about Essex. I read in Chapelle's book that Boston was very similar to Essex just a little shorter and rounder in the bows and flush decked. I just made my best guess as to how similar and used a plan of Essex for reference along with the profile drawing of Boston in Chapelle's book. I built bulkheads from the bow and stern towards the middle where I then drew up frames for the midsection and fitted them in between the two ends (if that makes any sense.) Then planked the hull with boxwood. I coppered the bow and stern with Amati plates and then patinated the copper with acid fumes to get the color. The deck is holly and the frames and keel are cherry. It's a commission and the client had seen another model in a similar style so I had to stick to the 'brief and not paint it completely as I would have done if it was mine. I'm fitting it with furled sails too. For the figurehead and stern details, thankfully I had to look no further than here on this very site where they have been discussed some time back by that font of maritime knowledge Mr Frolic who even produced a superb concept drawing which I shamelessly plagiarized as it was far better than anything I could have thought of and a perfect example of why this place is simply the best site on the web for ship modelers. Dan. -
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overdale replied to overdale's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1751 - 1800
Whew, that's a relief..! I looked high and low for another 1799 Boston before I started as it would have made things so much easier. I'd have been totally embarrassed if there was one in the Smithsonian all along. -
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overdale replied to dvm27's topic in How to use the MSW forum - **NO MODELING CONTENT**
It's a very confused subject Peter. I think there is a clause in copyright means you can reproduce for your own personal use, but it's not that clear. When I was at art school we had an entire day devoted to teaching us the copyright laws. None of us left that classroom any the wiser.. (Not that we were particularly wise to start with!) I have noticed at my local Staples that when I ask for something to be photocopied from a book I own they sometimes ask 'is it my drawing', did I write the book?' all sorts of bizarre questions that clearly indicate they don't understand the copyright laws either. Dan. -
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overdale replied to overdale's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1751 - 1800
Hi Greg, I'm afraid I'm the worst photographer imaginable. I'll see what I can do about better pictures. I didn't know about Robert Bruckshaw's 1799 Boston model. I was under the impression it was the earlier version. I could be wrong of course. (it's happened before! ) -
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overdale replied to dvm27's topic in How to use the MSW forum - **NO MODELING CONTENT**
Very true Chuck. I have found photos of my work lifted from my website (mostly shipwreck models) on other websites. I have no problem with people using them as long as they say where they got them from. I have had requests to use the photos and I always agree as long as there is attribution, but they are mostly from people publishing some sort of report or book where they are already aware of the problems of copyright. Dan. -
I wouldn't be surprised at all by their answer at all. They like both. I have been building models professionally for museums all over the world for more than 20 years. Museums like a clean finished model when the display is on a stand with no contemporaneous surroundings to give it context. It's easier for visitors to determine the form and function without the distraction of weathering. When a model is to be displayed in a diorama setting, then weathering is required by the museum to show the condition of the vessel in it's natural surroundings. So you have got your wish, there is 'a place for both' but the world isn't 'changing', museums have had these preferences for many many decades. Here you will find there are no preferences, everyone builds in the way they feel most comfortable expressing their considerable talents. There are no restrictions on how models are finished, there are no 'inner circles' and no 'wrong' way of building or presenting a model. Long may it continue. Dan.
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I have been meaning to take a look at this model for some time. Thanks for taking the time to show us all the details. I have a piece of the original Gokstad ship given to an American frigate captain who was in Norway on a goodwill visit when they were excavating the ship in 1881. He visited the excavations and they gave him a 'souvenir' It's a small piece of wood and a piece of goat hair they used for caulking.
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Nils, your models are always a pleasure to view and this one is no exception. A great subject. Happy New Year to you and many more to come. Dan.
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Frigate Boston by overdale - FINISHED
overdale replied to overdale's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1751 - 1800
Thank you gentlemen. I'm afraid it's all still a bit dusty and untidy at the moment but it's getting there. Dan. If it wasn't for your excellent research and discussions here I wouldn't have been able to do it at all.
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