Glenn-UK
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Thanks for you're comments, I glad I discovered the error of my ways at such an early stage and will soon have everything back to how it should be. I should use the magnifying light more but its very old and not very user friendly so I tend to use it as a last resort. I think maybe I need to see if I can get the spring loaded adjustable arms to move in a coordinated manner. At the moment they have a mind of there own and will not cooperate with me when I need to adjust the postion. -
On the face of it my copper tiling looks ok, and when I came back tonight from a family day out I started to fill in the gaps, as shown in in the first photo. I used my light with built in magnifying glass to help check the cut tile fitting. But this also highlighted some issued with the installation of some of the basic tiles, some were not butted up to the adjacent tiles and some where overlapping the adjacent tiles. This is shown the in the next three photos. The excess glue is from removed tiles, which is explained later on. To the naked eye it would probably be ok so I decided to continue with the installation of the next few tiles but soon realised there was going to be an alignment issue which was not going to easy to correct. I have therefore taken the decision to rip of the tiles and start again, taking much more time to ensure I get the first two layers neat and tidy, using the light / magnifying glass to confirm the correct installation of the tiles. Thankfully the tiles have been coming off without too much effort and removing the excess glue has not been a problem. I will complete removing the tiles tomorrow and will start again, with less haste. Will also order some more copper tiles from CMB!
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First 200 copper tiles are now fitted, took 30 minutes to fit the last 50 tiles, so maybe it will not take as long as I first thought to complete. Will start again on Monday as we are away tomorrow for the day. The first task will be to fill in the gaps as per Dave's (Shipyard Sid's) recommendation. A couple more pictures of my progress.
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Started the fitting the copper tiles today, 152 fitted in first session. I'm using Evostick instant which is a very good glue for this application, as advised by Shipyard Sid. It is very easy to roll off any excess glue once the tiles are fitted. When working along a line I'm spreading the glue for 5 copper tiles, generally taking about 2 minutes to spread and fit 5 tiles. I don't think this task is going as bad as I feared, yes it will take plenty of time to complete, but I'm finding it strangely therapeutic. Sorry about the poor quality of the photos.
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Pin pushers for planking?
Glenn-UK replied to Landlubber Mike's topic in Modeling tools and Workshop Equipment
I used a pin pushed for the inner planks, and you also can get them with an auto stop to prevent pushing in to far (have a look at CMB web site). I then used map pins for the outer planking, and found it best to use a small panel hammer to help push in -
Nearly time for lunch. My youngest son is flying out to Florida next week for a two week holiday with his girlfriend. I went to the states on business a couple of time last year to Columbus (Ohio), and had some down time on way back to sightsee New York a couple of times which I enjoyed. Normally takes 2 to 4 days for items to arrive from CMB, but as I'm based in the UK that not too bad. It took a couple for weeks for the goods to arrived ordered from micro mart. I sure once I get in my stride I will get a better handle on the copper tiles timings. I will use either evostick or super phatic, I'm tending more toward evostick as I think the super phatic will not grab to well initially, as normally tales a minute or two to get really tacky.
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All being well I should complete the 16mm linings tonight, just 7 top linings to fit which should take about 30 minutes. I have painted the black lines on the hull so I will just need a some touch up work tonight also. I must be honest I'm not totally happy with my 16mm linings, this is due mainly to an gun port alignment issue with the inner bulwarks which has created additional work to correct. However when painted up and fitted with the cannons they look OK, but would not pass muster from a close up inspection, and thankfully the quarter deck (when fitted) will also hide some of my sins. All being well I will start the coppering tomorrow. 2500 tiles x 3 minutes to fit each tile = 7500 minutes / 125 hours. Working 2 hours per night = approx. 60 days to complete. Given some tiles will not take 3 minutes to fit but other will take longer to cut and shape and also I probably will be not able to spend 2 hours per day I think 2 months is a reasonable estimate for the time it will take, 1 month per side.
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Thanks for the update and great photos, it's great to have your experience to fall back on as us lesser mortals continue on with our own builds.
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Great work Jerry and an informative set of photos, as always. I hope to be in a position to start the coppering phase by the weekend fingers crossed. Glenn
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Good to see you are still working, the built looks magnificent, you must be very proud of your achievement.
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Completed port side gun port linings and painted the black strips. I used Tamiya model masking tape in order to get good clear lines between the yellow and black paint, or so I thought! As you will see I suffered bleed through which is a tad frustrating. I will have to sort this out at another time, as I want to complete the starboard side over the next few days. Taped and painted Tape off, but not good clean lines between the yellow and black paint!
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Hi Jerry I had the back breaking task of breaking up 14 fence panels so I could fit in my car and take to the tip, in multiple trips. I then had to remove some of the lawn as I wanted to reshape some of the flower beds. Then took some time to trim and the feed the lawn. Finally I was able to get the sun chairs out and doze as I soaked up the rays. Thankfully it's not so sunny today as I'm back at work!!!
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With the very warm sunny weather over the weekend; so time on the boat has been restricted whilst I spend time in the garden enjoying the sun. I have spent some time cleaning and painting the hull and I also starting installing the 16mm gun port linings. I expect to have this work completed within the next couple of weeks, which then means it time to start the copper tiling. Can you spot the damage to the gun port lining strip on this photo, look top left middle gun port. I can effect a simple repair. Poor colour without flash It will not be long before I add the black lines, I have some Tamiya masking tape ready!
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Nice work Jerry
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Hi Jerry It's been hard not going to the build every evening after work but we've been looking after the grandkids in the evenings which is equally hard work and just as enjoyable. But normal ship build service returns next week, keep up the good work with your rigging. I hope I will find the coppering enjoyable as well, as I know it will be very Labour intensive.
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It look goods, well done; that one major job completed.
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A great set of photos once again. Just when you think you can see the light at the end of the tunnel something switches it off!, hope the damage to the pointy thing is not too bad and can be repaired (again) without too much disruption. My time in the build area has been limited just recently and it will be Thursday probably before I can get back to work on it when I should complete the 6mm linings, as I only have 4 gun ports left to complete.
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It looks very complicated, but you seem to be working steadily through this phase. Keep up the very good work
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Good morning Today I thought I would share my gun port lining procedure, it may not work for others but it does work well for me and is based on a gun port without a balsa seat fitted. I took the decision early on in the build to fit balsa seat to the gun port strips prior to their installation. This has saved some time and also did create a few minor problems with the installation on the gun deck. In some instances I did not pre-fit a balsa seat due to the limited space, and in some cases the balsa seats become detached during the installation of other items. Gun port lining ready to be lined but has no balsa seat to aid the installation. Using a special tool to hold the balsa seat; a small amount of ca glue is be applied to the balsa seat. The seat can then be positioned using the tool which is removed after a few seconds. Balsa seat after installation, this one will need to be trimmed. Seat after installation and trimming. The painted 6mm lining strip is then measured and cut to size. After the cut a dry fit is carried out. The lining strip is then coated with super phatic glue and positioned in the gun port, using a special tool to ensure it is set back 1mm. That concludes my procedure, it may not be the best and I think it is very important to find a method that works well for you.
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Hello Jerry According to fault report in the forum it is up to each member to update their logs as necessary to replace the missing pictures Glenn
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Hi Jerry This was a problem with the server and some pictures were lost, every one will need to upload the missing pictures to their log
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Just a quick update, still working on lining the gun ports. All 6mm linings on port side are complete and 50% of 6mm linings on starboard side are complete which I expect to complete in the next 2 or 3 sessions. I will then add the 16mm linings to the upper gun deck gun ports. I will then give the hull a very good clean and repaint as necessary, including adding the black lines before I start fitting the dreaded copper tiles.
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Hello Jerry Fine work on your first yard.
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Hello Jerry Many thanks for your kind words. I would not be adding the fine touches or be so self critical of my build if wasn't for the excellent builds and sound advice by all the other HMS Victory modellers, such as your good self. The more I get into the build the more I check the other build logs for idea's on how I can improve my build and modelling skills. Thank you.
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Not spent much time on the build over the last couple of days; being a bank holiday weekend in the UK. I did complete the port side 6mm lining of the lower and middle gun ports on Saturday morning. I was not very happy with the finish of the yellow paint, even a light sand and second coat of paint did not appease me. The paint was showing too many imperfections so I took the decision to sand out as necessary. I'm sure it will be look much better when I start to apply the paint again. I also was not happy with the way the starboard waterline looked so I removed the styrene strip and redraw the line and fitted a new strip. It now looks much better.
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