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Thanks very much. I am going slow and steady which is against my nature!- 476 replies
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Foremast Shrouds - Work In Progress Now that I seem to have resolved a number of problems with my technique adding the foremast shrouds is coming together quite nicely. There is still plenty of room for improvement, but overall I am very pleased with how they are looking. It is slow progress. It seems to take between 20 to 30 minutes per shroud line to add the deadeye, set the position and to then add the seizing's and lanyards. I do not tend to spend as much time in the shipyard over the weekends so I expect I will complete the main mast shrouds either Sunday or more likely Monday next week. Towards the end of next week, once the mizzen mast shrouds have been added, I will start work on adding the catharpins. I have never managed to do a decent job adding catharpins on any of my previous builds but I will take my time and hopefully I will manage to get them added and looking OK. The first picture shows the first shroud pair on the port side. The lanyards have been added but have not been tided off as yet. The second picture shows the first shroud pair on the starboard side, the left-hand shroud deadeye will be rotated clockwise in the shroud loop a tad before the lanyards are tied off The third picture shows the first two shroud pairs on the starboard side. As can been seen the shroud deadeyes are almost at the level with each other. The forth picture shows the first two shroud pairs on the port side. I will try to adjust (or I will redo if necessary) the seizing's on the second pair as they do not look to good. Fingers crossed I can get away with just adjusting them. The fifth picture shows the first three shroud pairs on the port side and the 6 x shroud deadeyes are almost at the same level. I still have not adjusted the middle pair seizing's. The deadeye, second from the left does require a slight clockwise rotation in the shroud loop. The final picture is the current state of play of the Sphinx , sitting on the workbench waiting for the next shroud pair to be added to the starboard side.
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Allan. I am aware of serving machines and did build one last year as an experiment. I also considered buying one. Serving lines is something for the future, maybe trialing on a smaller build.
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Mainmast Shrouds - a problem solved Through the trials and tribulations of adding the foremast shroud lines I was perplexed why I was unable to get the shroud deadeyes to looking even. I thought the methods I was employing were robust and should have resulted in a much better end result. I was determined to try to make the mainmast shroud deadeyes much more even. After adding the burton pendants to the mainmast I added the first shroud pair. The loops for the deadeyes were formed without any issues and the deadeyes were added. The jig was used to set the distance between the channel and shroud deadeye to 20mm on the first line. I then repeated the process for the second line and I was very pleased with the alignments. I then added the two seizing's above the shroud deadeyes. After I double checked the position of the shroud deadeyes with the jig I was very pleased with the how everything was looking. Next I added the lanyards to the first pair, initially everything looked good but after I started to apply a bit of tension I noticed the shroud deadeyes went not level. I was very perplexed considering all the checks I had made. I removed the lanyards and then rechecked the position of both shroud deadeyes with my jig. Neither deadeye would could be placed in the jig, the first deadeye was to high so would not reach the jigs locating pins and the second deadeye was to low. At first I was at a loss to understand what had happened but after a couple of minutes I knew what the problem was. It was the seizing of the shroud line at the top of the mainmast. The photo below shows the seizing which looks OK. What is happening is the shroud line can move through the seizing shown in the above photo, when tension is applied. This explains why I have ended up with one shroud deadeye being short and the other one on the shroud pair being to long. Now I know what the problem is I can take steps to prevent this happening.
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That is an option I would add
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Hi Allan The kit provides all the different rigging threads. As with most kits there is no reference to serving shrouds, that is an option for the more talented builders who like to enhance the builds.
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Many thanks Dave for your very kind words, they are much appreciated. I am always striving to improve my skills so I can do these wonderful designs the justice they deserve. Glenn (UK)
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Foremast Shrouds - Complete I have finally completed adding the foremast shrouds at the third attempt. The shroud deadeyes are still a bit uneven but overall I am happy with how they are looking. My technique has improved immeasurably compared with my previous builds but there is still room for improvement. Hopefully the main mast shrouds will look even better. The seizing will look much better when they have been dyed black with Indian ink. They look a bit better when view from afar!
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Allan. I prefer to seize with a different coloured thread. Natural thread can be dyed black using Indian ink.
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Thank you, I spent ages debating if I start yet again. It is proving to be the right decision.
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Following on from my last post where I decided my foremast shrouds (take 2) were still not up to the required standard I had a light bulb moment when having the tea break. I recalled that @DelF used a similar jig to mine but his had two sets of pins set in a piece of wood. The top pair were used to hold the shroud deadeye and the lower pair was located in the channel deadeye. It was a simple task for me to add a second set of pins to my jig. I used the same method as detailed in my post for adding deadeyes to shrouds. I added an extra step after adding the deadeye to the shroud loop where I simply inverted the jig and then adjusted the position in the shroud line so the deadeye would located on the two pins. In the first two photos below the deadeye has been adjusted and is now located on the top jig two pins. With reference to the next photo the first two shroud lines have been set, the next shroud pair are currently work in progress, the lanyards have been adjusted and I'm much happy with how the shroud deadeyes look. They are still far from perfect but they are so much better than my previous two attempts. I might dye the top two shroud seizing's with some black Indian ink
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I will watch Jim's build with great interest.
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The nightmare which has become the foremast shrouds / deadeye continues as I have decided that my take 2 attempt did not pass muster. The distance I have set between the channel and shroud deadeyes is approx. 20mm. I am happy with the first two dead pairs both port and starboard. As I started to tighten up the lanyards on all the shroud lines it became apparent the distance between the channel and shroud deadeyes was getting greater towards the stern. I could have lived with 1 or 2 mm difference that was not the case as there was a significant upward slope with the position of the shroud deadeyes toward the stern. Time for a tea break and a rethink before I start again - third time lucky?
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For clarity the deadeyes can rotate in the loops so the holes will be properly aligned when the lanyards are rigged.
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Adding Deadeyes to Shrouds I thought I would detail the method I am currently using to add the deadeyes to the foremast shrouds. The process detailed below takes me around 15 minutes per shroud line to complete which is not to bad. I am now working on adding the shroud lines pair 1/2 to the starboard side, then pair 3/4 to the port side, 5/6 pair to starboard, etc. Step 1 - Creating the loop With my jig added to the channel deadeye the shroud line is wrapped around the dowel and, using some reverse action tweezers, is held in place under a bit of tension. A length of seizing thread is then carefully fed under the shroud crossing point. A simple half hitch knot is used to create the loop. The tweezers are then released and the shroud carefully removed from the jig and positioned in to my quad hands where I complete the initial seizing by adding three half hitches to the top. Step 2 - Checking the deadeye position The deadeye is now inserted into the loop which is closed up tight by pulling the free end. It is still possible to adjust the length of the shroud so the deadeye is at the same level as the other deadeyes as the cross seizing has not, as yet, been secured with ca. Once I am happy with the initial deadeye alignment a length of thread is cut for the lanyard and the deadeye is partially rigged so I can check the alignment when the shroud has been slightly tensioned. Step 3 - Completing the seizing Once I'm happy with the deadeye alignment a touch as ca is used to secure the crossing seizing knots and the excess thread is also trimmed. The shroud line is then returned to the quadhands for the next phase. The shroud line ends are pulled tight and a crocodile clip is used to hold the threads in place. The shroud line is now ready for the next seizing's. The first seizing is started and I check it's position with a template seizing jig. Each seizing comprises 5 bottom and 5 top half hitch knots. It does not take very long to complete this aspect. With the work almost complete it is time to recheck the alignment of the shroud with a partially rigged lanyard. The excess shroud thread is then trimmed and the job is now complete.
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I did install all the shrouds on my first attempt and then added all the port side deadeyes and lanyards which I've done on all my previous builds. On take 2 I decided it would be better to rig each shroud pair in turn as it may help seat the shrouds better at the foremast platform.
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I am working on each shroud pair. Pair 1/2 port side has now been installed. Pair 3/4 is currently WIP on starboard side, 3 has been rigged and 4 will be done when I next visit the shipyard. The mast was glued in place prior to starting work on the shrouds.
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I have not tied off the lanyard just yet. It has been fed through the back of gap at the top of the deadeye strop and will then looped around the shroud a couple of times. I want to get the next deadeye in place so I can adjust the tension of the shroud line pair before I do this
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