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About dak4482

  • Birthday 11/13/1951

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    RVirtual modelling of railroading and ships, history of WWII

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  1. Hi all, Thx to Bill I was able to obtain the last two parts of the article. Dan
  2. Hi all, Looking for help in obtaining parts 5 & 6 of David White's "Understanding Ships Drafts' from Model ShipWright Magazine way back when. Unable to locate any copies of either these last 2 parts or the magazine itself, which is issue 54 and the one after that. Any help would be appreciated. pdf's or paper are fine. Thx in advance. Dan dak4482@comcast.net
  3. Wayne, Thx for the reply. I do have both the book and draughts for Naval Architecture. Thats why I was curious if this publication was an upgrade. Dan
  4. Hi all, Quick question. Has anyone ever seen or possess a copy of "Steel's improved tables of the dimensions of the most approved ship of each class" that is advertised in almost every one of Stelel's publication? Is this something that was incorporated in later versions of a particular book? Just wondering if it is a update to his tables of scantlings in his Naval Architecture publication. Can't find it anywhere except in bibliographies for him. Dan
  5. Karl, OK. was just curious. i guess I should have looked around the site more closely. Your construction is fantastic. I was using your photos from the 74 build to go along with reading Boudriot's 4 volume set and it cleared up ALOT of things for me. The drawings and photos were VERY educational and helpful. You are to be congratulated on the quality of your work. Good luck on this build and still look forward to the 74 haha. Dan
  6. Karl, Any more on this build of the 74 Gun Ship? Loved your past posts. Dan
  7. Zoltan, Any word yet on if the plans are still available? Dan
  8. John, Thx. Flipping between Boudriot and Steel is sometimes very confusing. Steel gives very good narratives but his diagrams leave alot to be desired. Boudriot has great diagrams that help you understand the narratives, but his narratives are not very detailed. Even though completely different styles of architecture I'm still using both just for understanding some of the technical aspects. Gonna try and start with Rhino to give a very rudimentary try at diagramming a ship hull. I'm not looking for great accuracy, just trying to understand the miriod of lines and terms in the various diagrams. Also Rhino allows tracing to shape out the beginning of the design. Steel's Naval architecture and the Shipbuilder's Repository are so deep I figure if I try drawing out the descriptions little by little, even if not very accurate it will help understand them so when I am looking for accuracy I'll make fewer mistakes. Thx again. The forums here are a HUGE help also. Thx to all you "experts" out there that contribute these great narratives that help so much in understanding ship design. PS. Any other good French Naval architecture sources that have been translated to English? Dan
  9. Hi John, New to the forum. Please be patient as I'm also new to this hobby though have read extensively but not put it to practical use. Looking over Boudriot's drawings of the head it appears that the gammoning holes are much higher on the knee of the head in his French vessel that what I see in Steel and other British and American drawings that put them between the cheeks??? (Am I describing those correctly)??? Are the rails positioned differently in the French vessel? Or is Boudriot's Illustration just not absolutely horizontal and is distorting the picture to make them look much higher? Thx in advance. Dan
  10. Thx for the replies. Daniel, if you look at the sheer drawings from the two authors, one shows buttock lines and the other shows riibbands and waterlines. Boudriot mentions butock lines in several places in his "74 Gun Ship" but doesnt show them anywhere on his sheer plans. Steel shows buttock lines and water lines. His diagrams are much more detailed (see attached) as they go along with his narrative on architecture. I am just trying to get my head around how they started laying out the lines of the ship for sheer using the two different methods. Maybe I'm confusing breadth and shape. Please help me on this if there is a simple explanation. I'm very new to these diagrams and if I'm way off base I wont be offended if you say so. Just trying to learn. Thx in advance. Dan Steel's_Book_0003.pdf
  11. Gaetan, Looking at the 74 Gun Ship and Steel's Naval Architecture, the sheer plans seem to differ a bit on how they lay out the breadth of the ship. Steel uses buttock lines and Boudriot uses ribbands it appears. Why the difference? What is the most accurate way to duplicate the breadth at different levels using the sheer plan ribbands or buttock lines? Seems that ribbands while more numerous add the wifth of the actual ribbands while buttock lines are normally limited to six but do show the actual breadth at those levels. Thoughts? Thx in advance. Dan
  12. Wow did I ever get lucky. haha. I sent a message to Sim Comfort personally after purchasing some of his material and he was kind enough to send me a scan of that draft #39. Great guy and very helpful. Thx to all for the responses
  13. Duff, Thx very much for the info but I think you grabbed the wrong book. The Draught # 39 that I am referring to is in Steels "Naval Architecture", not his "Elements of Mastmaking, Sailmaking and Rigging". I apologize if my text was confusing. The draught #39 I am referencing would be a very large print approximately 24"x30" and shows "fitting of the stroreroom between the gun deck and Orlop". I have the Sweetman edition you show and the mast and Spar diagrams in the back pocket are absolutely wonderful. I am SUPER interested in how they constructed "made" masts and would love to see a video of one or some 3 dimensional diagrams that help show better the scarfing and how the various pieces butt and fit together. The Steel diagrams are wonderfully detailed but I still have a problem getting my head around how the various head and ends of the various pieces fit together, especially for masts made of 7 pieces or more. I think its one of the areas that are totally missing from the hobby, obviously because at our scale it would be almost impossible to model correctly. For any others interested in this topic ("Made" masts and spars), two of the best references I have found on the subject are "The Masting of American Merchant Sail in the 1850's" by William Crothers and "A Treatise on Masting Ships and Mast Making" by John Fincham. Crothers has some of the best explanations I've seen on made masts consisting of anywhere from 5 to 16 "sticks". Fincham duplicates alot of Steel's info but does add some interesting narrative of his own. These two volumes along with Steel's pretty much cover all there is to know about "made" masts and spars. Thx again for the info Dan
  14. Jaager, yes I have that but I'm really just interested in that one drawing #39. Very curious as to what it shows/changes Thx Dan

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