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Thanks Rainer .. I think i,ll go with vol 1& 2 for the time being. .

Welcome Bruce . Nothing like diving in at the deep end. I look forward to your build log. Reading between the lines i suspect u have past experience in woodwork or something similiar so u should have no problem . Lot,s of luck and have fun . Boyd.

Welcome James .. I had a son who studied in Nottingham a few years back , Visited him a few times , nice place . This is great site u will enjoy it . Boyd.

thanks Mark, i might try 1 and 2 to start with .

Things going a bit better now and pics soon but i have been wondering is it worth buying 1 or more of the FFM books to help me complete this project . I don,t intend putting masts on this build and very little planking ,so i,m wondering which volume or volumes would be of most use . Can anyone with experience of these books offer any advice . Thanks Boyd

just keepin it fresh ??

My recent attempt to build the full Triton POF has to say the least been a challenge and although now going a bit better i was wondering about buying at least 1 of the FFM books to give me a few hints . My question is which 1 to buy or do i need to buy them all , bearing in mind that i do not intend to put masts or rigging on this attempt and will probably leave as much unplanked as possible . Can anyone with experience of these books advise on which volume would be the most helpfull . Thanks Boyd .

Welcome from sunny N Ireland and another nearly 60 year old .. Its the new 40 . Boyd.

Hi all . thought i would make another post about my painfully slow progress .I did remake quite a few of the aft cant frames, and the aft deadwood ,and the stern post but have i think finished up with something i can work with . I finally glued all the aft cant frames in place and then discovered that the transoms where to short so had to remake them all and also the sternpost as i had faired it incorrectly to the rabit line . I made them way to big as u will see in the pics but will fair them to size when in place , Problem is i may have to remove the end cant frames to install the aft section properly , not a big problem as at least i know now every thing should fit . I put a couple of pins in the sternpost to make sure i was fitting correctly . Nothing glued yet except the cant frames so still able to make small adjustments before final fitting did some fairing just to check that everything lines up but still a lot to do

Welcome Don Boyd.

Welcome Boyd.

Welcome ,and don,t be to put of by first impressions of the instructions , your past experience in plastics will be very helpfull although u will find wood a bit slower .. good luck ,,Have fun Boyd

It,s hard to say . I seem to remember that once i started the rigging i seemed to lose interest , maybe i had just spent long enough on that build . although i don,t think i would fully rig another ship either so i think i just don,t like rigging !

The rigging broke my spirit but u have come so far now there is no way u can give up .. Great job , just keep at it ,the end is in sight !!!!!!! Boyd.

My hat is of to you Paul , your attention to detail is superb , I can offer no advice on rigging as i chickened out on most of it on my Vic . Only suggestion i have is the book Longridge ..The Anatomy of NELSON,S SHIPS . Maybe u have it already but it does give a lot of detail if u want to be accurate .. Keep at and good luck Boyd

A hugh build .i will follow with interest ,, go for it Albert !!!!

I,m glad to see someone else jumping in the deep end . I have a feeling I may need your help once in a while ??? Boyd .

I thought i should make a short post to prove i did not give up and after a lot of head scratching ,re-measuring and quite a bit of sawdust i have made some progress . One of my problems was i must confess was tryng to take short cuts without realising the consequences ,{ by the way i never could spell} i will point these out in the hope that maybe some new builders may avoid my mistakes Because i decided it would be quicker to make the keel from one piece and scribe the scarf joints if necessary i neglected to cut the 2 mm rebate the aft deadwood sit,s into . Because i decided to make the aft deadwood from one piece i used the A1 keel plan measurements for the steps in the aft deadwood and when i dicovered they were not correct i used the Disposition of frames plan to try and correct them .. It turns out that the red lines on the aft deadwood plans are the ones that are most accurate . I realise that a lot of the basic info for beginners in this project was probably lost in the crash and many of the reposted logs left out a lot of the original discussion which may have covered a lot of my confussion about the many different colored lines . Tks to Phil i did finally get my big head around it and although it is simple once u know it care still needs to be taken ,especially with the cant frames . { or maybe i am stupid after all } I redid the aft deadwood and remade a few frames and using the lines was even brave enough to fair them to within a mm or so of the lines ,, may regret this later ??? i found it usefull to pencil in the frames outlines before to much fairing . the pics that follow show what i finished with and nothing has been glued yet as some parts still need a fine tuning but i,m reasonably happy with the result so far !!!!

Hello Heinz . I would just like to add my congrats on a fantastic build , you should indeed be very proud .I,m useless at rigging so will give no advice other than take it one step at a time .. Glad to see u back . Boyd .

Look,s like a tricky part but u got it under control .good progress

Tks Phil .That was the only reason i could think off but didn,t think it would be a major problem . Now i know , stick with the plan,s Boyd they are there for a reason !!!!!

Thank u both for the encouragement , i think it may be frustration rather than discouragement , I always did have problems with 3 D drawings ,might be the way i am wired .lol . Now that i know for sure which lines to go by i think i have it sorted, so tks again Phil that little nudge was all i needed .i made 2 more 28 frames and they seem better . I,m also wondering if my messing around with the aft deadwood may have been a mistake and will need to check it again ,may need to go back to the original ??? More timber coming to-morrow so i think i will start with frame 19 and work my way back to get a better understanding of the run of the frames ,if that makes sence . One more thing before i start butchering this lovely pear wood again ,if i were to use the patterns from the assembly drawings and put them front and back can these frames be made from a single piece ????? I think i read in one of the logs that for some reason this would not work but that was 5 years ago and wondered if the plans had perhaps changed to accomidate this or indeed if this was what was ment by a SINGLE PIECE FRAME ??????? seems a shame to cut wood to stick it back together again., plus it would save all that tedious frame assembly ,( i,m not lazy just thinking out loud ) I did cut a couple and they seem exactly the same shape either way ,but again maybe i,m missing something ?another loose wire perhaps ? no pics atm ,will try a few things and show later . Any thoughts will be greatly appreciated Boyd

tks Phil .. I know there has to be simple explanation and it is just that I can,t get it into my head . I made up a couple more frames this morning and will try again with your explanation . Am I correct in trying to have the red pattern pointing forward and the blue pattern on the aft side or do I need to be removing the blue pattern as I stick the red frame on top ,meaning I only have a pattern on the forward part of the frame ,, see I,m overthinking .

Hello David and Welcome from N Ireland

Hi all .. A cry for help ..... As i,m waiting for wood supplies before i start the main framing i thought i would sort out the cant frames while waiting and have become completely confused !!!!!! i picked up on the blue aft ,red fore part which changes midway but having made up several of the aft cant frames i cannot get them to look right or line up on the build frame ,,i have blue lines ,,red lines ,,green lines and black lines ,which do i trin to ??? I,m assuming that the frames are made similiar to the section or am i missing something ,, or am i just being stupid ???? i have searched the build logs but everyone just seems to produce the cant frames without any great problems . i have been triming them to fit the curve on the build frame and wondered it this was where i was making the mistake ??? Was the frame designed to suit untrimed frames .. I know very few poeple are doing this project now but if anyone can give me a few pointers in the right direction before i waste any more wood it would be greatly appreciated .