Kevin

One thing I saw, if you have a copy of TFFM IV, in the back colour section, it shows an interesting way of mounting ship's boats. Basically using a clear acrylic rod drilled into the hull horizontally just below the water line. The ship's boat is then mounted to the rod. The boat now appears to be "floating" alongside, with a painter line extended to the ship.

 

Just a thought....

 

Andy

that is certainly a good idea, im sure i have seen it on here somewhere

lol another idea was to build a display case now put the build in - seal it up having put some smoke in there  "HMS VICTORY" - "Foggy Day"), then i could stop whinging about all my own work - no one would know it wasnt finished

 

all the best

Hi Kevin,

 

After doing much research whilst developing a different Victory, I would not put the 34 and 32' carvel-planked boats on any of the stern davits as they would never have been hung there due to their size and weight.

 

There are even some reservations as to whether Victory had 30' cutters, as some see these as almost too much for the quarter davits, and perhaps 28' or smaller were used. But that is a grey area and there's no hard and fast evidence regarding the size of the extra 2 cutters (When Bulger mentions them, he is only quoting the Navy Board Standing Order, which permitted the use of 8-oared cutters instead of barges)

 

I think the pinnace and 18 footer are OK, though.

Thanks Chris 

 

lol - i will have to change my mind a lot sooner then

 

but i still dont want them on the waist - i could complete them and have them as part of the display stand

 

all the best

Hi Kevin

 

Do you not think that hanging 3 boats on the stern will hide a lot of the detail on the stern. But then I can see your point of being able to view the center gun deck, Can not make up my mind, I think that I will wate and have a look at your great build, that should help  me decide.

 

Regards  Lawrence

i dont think you will see any gun deck details, with every sail set including stuns - and then a display  cabinet - all deck detail could possible at least 12-18 inches away - time will tell - and i may change my mind on how the boats are displayed - i have played with the idea of setting the hull in simulated water and have all boats in line astern - but that might be beyond my capabilities and delaying the finish time, but then again the hull might look better hidden anyway - its not as good as some other's on this site -

 

all the best

thats what i use for plastic

or humbrol poly cement

 

JULY 02

 

 

 

1803

HMS Minerve (38), Cptn. Jahleel Brenton, grounded in a thick fog on the western point of the Corries of Cherbourg and captured.

1813

HMS Dædalus (38), Cptn. Murray Maxwell, grounded off Island of Ceylon and sank after being refloated.

1816

French frigate La Méduse, Cptn. Duroy de Chaumereys, wrecked on the Bank of Arguin, off the coast of Senegal.

1644

The Battle at Kolberger Heide. Danish fleet of around 40 ships, divided into 3 squadron, under HM. Christian the IVth fights a Swedish fleet of 42 ships, under Admiral Klas Fleming. The King is wounded during the battle, and loses one eye.

1731

Adam Duncan born in Lundie, Perthshire.

1795

Sir John Jervis promoted to full Admiral

1797

Naval Regulations passed by US Congress

1800

First convoy duty; USS Essex escorts convoy of merchant ships from East Indies to U.S.

1801

U.S. squadron under Commodore Dale enters Mediterranean to strike Barbary Pirates

sorry my friend - i missed your birthday 

 

 

all the best and belated Happy Birthday

very nice work - im impressed

brilliant work my friend - as always

Great progress Kevin but yes, one question…..you don't copper the rudder?????

And who wins that race? me????    

I'm more a guy for the Tour de France…..

 

i will be coppering the rudder - i feel i get a better result having a dark colour under the plates, for those orrible little gaps that appear after i have gone to bed

lovely work - well done

Rudder

i attached a piece of wood under the rudder so that i had it in the right position

 

the pins and brackets were easy enough to fit (must learn the correct names) - glued into position before matching to the hull, then was able to marked where the holes required to be drilled in the stern post

 

coppering will be done son possibly after the British F1 race this afternoon (dont care who wins - so long as it is Lewis Hamilton)

 

i have moved the plates of the stern post and will not copper the fwd facing edge of the rudder, as it will kill any clearance id have and look to tight, but might change my mind later

 

 

all the best

 

 

Good morning everyone 

 

stern area of my build continues, getting an hour or two in where i can

 

Poop deck, the skylight still requires acetate to be inserted before final fixing

 

June 30

 

 

1690

Battle of Beachy Head. French fleet of 75 ships, under Comte de Tourville, defeated Anglo-Dutch fleet of 56 ships, under the Earl of Torrington. The Anglo-Dutch fleet lost 11 ships.

1797

Richard Parker, President of the "Floating Republic" at the Nore, hanged aboard HMS Sandwich (98)

1803

HMS Vanguard (74) Cptn. James Walker, and HMS Cumberland (74) captured French frigate Creole.

1808

HMS Capelin Schooner (6), Lt. Josias Bray, wrecked on sunken rock off entrance of Brest Harbor.

1814

USS Alligator schooner sank in Port Royal Sound during a heavy storm

1815

USS Peacock, Cptn. Lewis Warrington,  takes HMS Nautilus, last action of the War of 1812 

June 29

 

 

1758

HMS Renown (30) took French Guirlande (22)

1798

HMS Pique (38), Cptn. David Milne, and HMS Jason captured Seine (42). They all grounded near Pointe de la Trenche and Pique was bilged so it was necessary to destroy her.

1811

4 Danish gunboats, under Lt. Broder K. B. Wigelsen, took HMS Safeguard (14), Lt. Thomas England, off Randers fjord.

For anyone interested

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-17513286

June 28

 

 

1588

Fireship attack on Spanish Armada

1720

HMS Milford (32), Cptn. Peter Chamberlain, driven ashore and wrecked on the north west end of Cuba.

1776

HMS Actaeon (28), Cptn. Christopher Atkins, part of a squadron under Commodore Sir Peter Parker, grounded taking up position to attack Fort Moultrie at the southern end of Sullivan's Island, Charleston, SC, and was set on fire when she could not be got off.

1783

HMS Nymph (14) burnt by accident at Tortola

1794

HMS Rose (28) wrecked on Rocky-Point, Jamaica.

1801

Boats of HMS Mercury (28), Cptn. T Rogers, and HMS Corso (14), William Ricketts, captured pirate vessel Tigre (8) among the rocks of the Tremite Islands in the Adriatic.

1803

HMS Goliath (74), Capt. C. Brisbane, captured Mignonne (16), Cptn. J. P. Bargeaud, and HMS Hercule (74) engaged Poursuivante (40) off San Domingo            

1810

Boats of HMS Amphion (32), Cptn. William Hoste, and HMS Cerberus (32), Cptn Henry Whitby, and HMS ACTIVE (38), Cptn. James Alexander Gordon, took two forts and cut out 25 vessels from the harbour at Grao. 

1811

HMS Firm Brig (12), Lt. John Little, grounded on a bank off the coast of France and set on fire to avoid capture..

1814

USS Wasp (22), Cptn. Johnston Blakely, captures HMS Reindeer (18), William Manners (Killed in Action), in the Atlantic

HMS Leopard (50), wrecked near the Island of Anticosti, Gulf of St. Lawrence.

1849

The Danish brig St. Croix, Lt Cmdr Peter C. Holm, on blockade in the Baltic, fights the Prussian paddle steamer Preussischer Adler, Commodore Schroeder, off Hela in the Bay of Danzig.

1865

CSS Shenandoah captures 11 American whalers in one day

June 27

 

1588

Spanish Armada arrives at Calais

1796

HMS Inconstant (36) saved British residents at Leghorn.

1803

Boats of HMS Loire (40), Cptn. Frederick Maitland, captured Venteux (10) at anchor under a shore battery in the Isle de Bas Roads.

1811

HMS Guadaloupe (16), Joseph Swabey Tetley, engaged French Tactique (16) andGuepe (8) off the Cap de Creux.

lovely work - i have so much to learn - loves the wood colours 

 

all the best

was hoping to show much more work having been progressed today - like having completed at poop - but alas - not to be - never mind there is always another time - did however file down the kit cleats to let them fit in the space available - they seamed far to over sized anyway the bench pin rack for the poop has also been completed - will post some photo's when it actually looks different

 

all the best Kevin

i know where you are coming from, just had a whole fours days off, all my plans were around time to be spent on the build - did everything else but - never mind - lifes good and the build is progressing - just much slower than i wish

all the best - your work so far  is very nice - well done my friend

can i have some cookies as well , i may have lost all the required weight i want by the time i start my 1st dark side project

June 26

 

 

 

1748

HMS Fowey (44), Cptn. Francis William Drake, wrecked in the Gulf of Florida.

1766

HMS Saint Lawrence lost, off Ingonish

1798

HMS Seahorse (38), Cptn. Edward James Foote, captured French frigate Sensible(32) off the coast of Sicily

1799

HMS Alcmene (32), Cptn. H. Digby, captured French privateer Conrageux (28), Jean Bernard, off the coast of Portugal.

1806

Boats of HMS Port Mahon (18), Samuel Chambers, cut out Spanish letter of marque brig San Josef (7) from the harbour of Banes in Cuba.

1808

Boats of HMS Standard (64), Cptn. Thomas Harvey, captured Italian gunboatVolpe and French dispatch boat Leger off Corfu.

Hi Kevin

 

Your stern gallery sure looks nice and clean, a thing to be proud of thats for sure. I see that you have added the stern davits, are you going to hang a boat from them? It's nice to see that you have cut out your plop deck for the sky light that will put more light inside your stern gallery, I am thinking of doing the same if I ever get to that stage. Keep up the great work.

 

Regards  Lawrence

Hi Lawrence, i will be hanging 3 boats off the stern - because i want to fully set every sail including stuns, on doing so - i think not a lot will be seen midships upper deck so i wanted and alternative position for them

 

the skylight cut is as per the plans in respect the cut-out was already there, but the after bulkhead is solid so prevents any other light getting in there

 

and thank you for the compliment