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woodrat got a reaction from BLACK VIKING in Mycenaean War Galley by Woodrat - 1:48 - Shell first Plank on Frame
I am really not happy with the octopus. There is no iconographic evidence for its use on galleys or any other ship, so it is gone. I have gone instead for a more austere look. I am happy with the figurehead. Prof Wachsmann has published his thesis that these figureheads reprsent birds' heads and that may be so in most cases but in the case of the Tragana ship the backward curved protuberances on the "beak" resemble no bird I know but would be consistent with a crocodile.
Dick
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woodrat reacted to Louie da fly in The San Marco mosaic ship c. 1150 by Louie da fly - 1:75
Ian, that block looks like an ordinary block with a toggle each side. Those toggles have been found in archaeology as far back as the 11th century, though I don't know if they've been found from the Classical Roman period. They are very useful for quick attachment and release of different parts of rigging on Mediterranean lateeners - for an example of the toggle in use see my post #1217 at
Tony, thanks for your nice comment. Much appreciated.
More progress on the San Marco ship.
Grab rings for the hatch covers:
Hatch covers in place and with grab rings (now blackened) in place. I had to wait until the masts were glued in before I could finalise the hatch covers, otherwise I wouldn't have been able to see the mast steps to guide the masts into position.
Shrouds:
Foremast starboard shrouds in place:
All foremast shrouds in place. The port shrouds are loose because the lateen sail was within the shrouds - if the leeward shrouds were kept tight they would interfere with the sail as it bellied out with the wind.
Getting ready for tomorrow's Modelling Exhibition! while I'm sitting there keeping people (and their precious little darlings) from touching my models with their sticky fingers I'll probably be working on positioning the halyards and their tackle, and adding the blocks for the tacks to the yards.
Steven
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woodrat got a reaction from Glen McGuire in The San Marco mosaic ship c. 1150 by Louie da fly - 1:75
Ian. I dont know this block. Where did you come across it? I dont know of any archaeology to back its use in greek or roman craft? Happy to learn more.
Dick
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woodrat got a reaction from mtaylor in The San Marco mosaic ship c. 1150 by Louie da fly - 1:75
Ian. I dont know this block. Where did you come across it? I dont know of any archaeology to back its use in greek or roman craft? Happy to learn more.
Dick
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woodrat got a reaction from Cathead in The San Marco mosaic ship c. 1150 by Louie da fly - 1:75
Just a couple of points about Jacob's ladders in latin ships. Make sure the ladder doesnt foul the yard or its tackle on going about. On my round ship I positioned the rope ladder (with rope rungs) side on to the mast. Anyone who has seen circus performers use a rope ladder knows that they clamber up the side of the ladder. This minimises "bellying out" of the ladder which would be worse if the ladder were climbed face on.
Cheers
Dick
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woodrat got a reaction from Thukydides in The San Marco mosaic ship c. 1150 by Louie da fly - 1:75
Just a couple of points about Jacob's ladders in latin ships. Make sure the ladder doesnt foul the yard or its tackle on going about. On my round ship I positioned the rope ladder (with rope rungs) side on to the mast. Anyone who has seen circus performers use a rope ladder knows that they clamber up the side of the ladder. This minimises "bellying out" of the ladder which would be worse if the ladder were climbed face on.
Cheers
Dick
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woodrat got a reaction from Louie da fly in The San Marco mosaic ship c. 1150 by Louie da fly - 1:75
I actually used rope rungs but either way would be OK. I did use wood rungs on my carrack. The lower ends of the ladder are attached to rings in the deck.
Dick
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woodrat got a reaction from mtaylor in The San Marco mosaic ship c. 1150 by Louie da fly - 1:75
I actually used rope rungs but either way would be OK. I did use wood rungs on my carrack. The lower ends of the ladder are attached to rings in the deck.
Dick
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woodrat got a reaction from mtaylor in The San Marco mosaic ship c. 1150 by Louie da fly - 1:75
Just a couple of points about Jacob's ladders in latin ships. Make sure the ladder doesnt foul the yard or its tackle on going about. On my round ship I positioned the rope ladder (with rope rungs) side on to the mast. Anyone who has seen circus performers use a rope ladder knows that they clamber up the side of the ladder. This minimises "bellying out" of the ladder which would be worse if the ladder were climbed face on.
Cheers
Dick
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woodrat got a reaction from Glen McGuire in The San Marco mosaic ship c. 1150 by Louie da fly - 1:75
I actually used rope rungs but either way would be OK. I did use wood rungs on my carrack. The lower ends of the ladder are attached to rings in the deck.
Dick
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woodrat got a reaction from Glen McGuire in The San Marco mosaic ship c. 1150 by Louie da fly - 1:75
Just a couple of points about Jacob's ladders in latin ships. Make sure the ladder doesnt foul the yard or its tackle on going about. On my round ship I positioned the rope ladder (with rope rungs) side on to the mast. Anyone who has seen circus performers use a rope ladder knows that they clamber up the side of the ladder. This minimises "bellying out" of the ladder which would be worse if the ladder were climbed face on.
Cheers
Dick
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woodrat got a reaction from druxey in The San Marco mosaic ship c. 1150 by Louie da fly - 1:75
Just a couple of points about Jacob's ladders in latin ships. Make sure the ladder doesnt foul the yard or its tackle on going about. On my round ship I positioned the rope ladder (with rope rungs) side on to the mast. Anyone who has seen circus performers use a rope ladder knows that they clamber up the side of the ladder. This minimises "bellying out" of the ladder which would be worse if the ladder were climbed face on.
Cheers
Dick
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woodrat got a reaction from Ian_Grant in The San Marco mosaic ship c. 1150 by Louie da fly - 1:75
Just a couple of points about Jacob's ladders in latin ships. Make sure the ladder doesnt foul the yard or its tackle on going about. On my round ship I positioned the rope ladder (with rope rungs) side on to the mast. Anyone who has seen circus performers use a rope ladder knows that they clamber up the side of the ladder. This minimises "bellying out" of the ladder which would be worse if the ladder were climbed face on.
Cheers
Dick
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woodrat got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in The San Marco mosaic ship c. 1150 by Louie da fly - 1:75
Just a couple of points about Jacob's ladders in latin ships. Make sure the ladder doesnt foul the yard or its tackle on going about. On my round ship I positioned the rope ladder (with rope rungs) side on to the mast. Anyone who has seen circus performers use a rope ladder knows that they clamber up the side of the ladder. This minimises "bellying out" of the ladder which would be worse if the ladder were climbed face on.
Cheers
Dick
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woodrat got a reaction from Mark Pearse in Le Gros Ventre 1767 by woodrat - Scale 1:48 - POF - French exploration vessel
The main deck completed to the midline and the bowsprit step is temporarily installed
Dick
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woodrat got a reaction from CiscoH in Le Gros Ventre 1767 by woodrat - Scale 1:48 - POF - French exploration vessel
The main deck completed to the midline and the bowsprit step is temporarily installed
Dick
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woodrat got a reaction from davyboy in Le Gros Ventre 1767 by woodrat - Scale 1:48 - POF - French exploration vessel
The main deck completed to the midline and the bowsprit step is temporarily installed
Dick
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woodrat got a reaction from mtaylor in Le Gros Ventre 1767 by woodrat - Scale 1:48 - POF - French exploration vessel
The main deck completed to the midline and the bowsprit step is temporarily installed
Dick
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woodrat got a reaction from Mike Y in Le Gros Ventre 1767 by woodrat - Scale 1:48 - POF - French exploration vessel
The main deck completed to the midline and the bowsprit step is temporarily installed
Dick
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woodrat got a reaction from cotrecerf in Le Gros Ventre 1767 by woodrat - Scale 1:48 - POF - French exploration vessel
The main deck completed to the midline and the bowsprit step is temporarily installed
Dick
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woodrat got a reaction from No Idea in Le Gros Ventre 1767 by woodrat - Scale 1:48 - POF - French exploration vessel
The main deck completed to the midline and the bowsprit step is temporarily installed
Dick
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woodrat got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Le Gros Ventre 1767 by woodrat - Scale 1:48 - POF - French exploration vessel
The main deck completed to the midline and the bowsprit step is temporarily installed
Dick
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woodrat got a reaction from JacquesCousteau in Le Gros Ventre 1767 by woodrat - Scale 1:48 - POF - French exploration vessel
The main deck completed to the midline and the bowsprit step is temporarily installed
Dick
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woodrat got a reaction from ccoyle in Le Gros Ventre 1767 by woodrat - Scale 1:48 - POF - French exploration vessel
The main deck completed to the midline and the bowsprit step is temporarily installed
Dick
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woodrat reacted to Louie da fly in The San Marco mosaic ship c. 1150 by Louie da fly - 1:75
I've temporarily placed the two steersmen in their positions on the poop deck, to work out where exactly the tillers should come to.
And I've been working on providing floors for the tops - up till now I'd left them open at the bottom except for a couple of beams each to support the framework of the top. The thing is, the halyards pass diagonally through the tops, so they can't have a full floor. But the poor lookouts need somewhere to stand. So after a bit of thought, I've come up with a solution - plank the floors, but with a gap for the halyard.
But first I had to work out exactly where they pass through, lining them up with the sheaves of the calcets and the knights on the deck.
Planking begun
And complete
Very fiddly, but finally got it done. Pretty happy with this solution. It may be nothing like what was really done back in the day, but it is workable.
Steven
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