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Beef Wellington reacted to matiz in French 74-gun ship by matiz - scale 1:56 - Tiziano Mainardi
Hi, another pictures
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Beef Wellington got a reaction from CiscoH in HMS Jason by Beef Wellington - Caldercraft - 1:64 - Artois-class frigate modified from HMS Diana 1794
Thanks for all the 'likes', and Greg, Pat, Mike, Christian, Bob, Tom, Hamilton, Michael, Mobbsie - I really appreciate your thoughts and interest, the good news is that I don't need to decide right now. I got a little over-obsessive on Snake using the kit supplied materials which bogged things down a bit, I'm sure I'd enjoy rigging more with better quality line and be happier with the result. What I'm hoping is that I can leave my options open even after things get closed up when the quarterdeck and f'csle go on (e.g. mast stumps that could easily be replaced with full masts and yards at some point)
BE - your Victory, despite just looking fantastic, presents yet another interesting alternative. I too like that look a lot.
Coamings
Moving on a little, have started on the coamings and gratings. I had ordered some of Chuck's gratings some time ago and these were relatively painless to make up. The coaming dimensions were taken from AOTS with a few small adjustments to ensure the edge of the coaming met the wider binding strakes as illustrated. I did go the whole hog and build these as per TFFM which was good practice, if not slow. Not really much else to say.
Where the companionways are, I did do bit more fiddly work to try and simulate the beams and carlings that would be visible. I'm sure there must be a better way, but the approach I took was as follows:
Build up the bottom of the companionway coaming by 1mm to account for the thickness of the deck (as coamings would sit on the beams/carlings, not the deck) 0.5mm sheet was applied to the side faces to simulate the recess on the interior face Boxwood sheets and strips attached to simulate the beams/carlings. This was not hard once the approach had been figured out as this all still needs to slide in through the holes in the deck (which had to be enlarged a bit). I did decide to paint these black, as is shown to good effect on the contemporary Winchelsea model. I was tempted to leave these natural, but as I had made these out of pear, I felt that another wood tone would be distracting. In any event, black appears to have been quite commonly used toward the end of the century to aid safety by making the companionways more visible against the deck. Bit of a Frankenstein's monster from underneath, but to my eye looks convincing enough when in place.
All the coamings and gratings have been made up and just need some finishing. I was pleased that the coamings lined up with the butt pattern of the planks, because as irregular as they looks, they do correspond with the theoretical placement of the beams below.
The third photo shows the difference in appearance with the added depth in the companionway, vs the coaming simply sitting on the deck for comparison. The last photo shows everything in place. One slight fudge I'm making here is to put a grating into the foremost of the two rearmost openings. This should really be a companionway down to the wardroom, but the keel former realistically presents this being represented, and given that this will barely be glimpsed, a grating went on top instead. The kit plans omit this feature entirely.
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Beef Wellington got a reaction from John Cheevers in HMS Jason by Beef Wellington - Caldercraft - 1:64 - Artois-class frigate modified from HMS Diana 1794
Thanks for all the 'likes', and Greg, Pat, Mike, Christian, Bob, Tom, Hamilton, Michael, Mobbsie - I really appreciate your thoughts and interest, the good news is that I don't need to decide right now. I got a little over-obsessive on Snake using the kit supplied materials which bogged things down a bit, I'm sure I'd enjoy rigging more with better quality line and be happier with the result. What I'm hoping is that I can leave my options open even after things get closed up when the quarterdeck and f'csle go on (e.g. mast stumps that could easily be replaced with full masts and yards at some point)
BE - your Victory, despite just looking fantastic, presents yet another interesting alternative. I too like that look a lot.
Coamings
Moving on a little, have started on the coamings and gratings. I had ordered some of Chuck's gratings some time ago and these were relatively painless to make up. The coaming dimensions were taken from AOTS with a few small adjustments to ensure the edge of the coaming met the wider binding strakes as illustrated. I did go the whole hog and build these as per TFFM which was good practice, if not slow. Not really much else to say.
Where the companionways are, I did do bit more fiddly work to try and simulate the beams and carlings that would be visible. I'm sure there must be a better way, but the approach I took was as follows:
Build up the bottom of the companionway coaming by 1mm to account for the thickness of the deck (as coamings would sit on the beams/carlings, not the deck) 0.5mm sheet was applied to the side faces to simulate the recess on the interior face Boxwood sheets and strips attached to simulate the beams/carlings. This was not hard once the approach had been figured out as this all still needs to slide in through the holes in the deck (which had to be enlarged a bit). I did decide to paint these black, as is shown to good effect on the contemporary Winchelsea model. I was tempted to leave these natural, but as I had made these out of pear, I felt that another wood tone would be distracting. In any event, black appears to have been quite commonly used toward the end of the century to aid safety by making the companionways more visible against the deck. Bit of a Frankenstein's monster from underneath, but to my eye looks convincing enough when in place.
All the coamings and gratings have been made up and just need some finishing. I was pleased that the coamings lined up with the butt pattern of the planks, because as irregular as they looks, they do correspond with the theoretical placement of the beams below.
The third photo shows the difference in appearance with the added depth in the companionway, vs the coaming simply sitting on the deck for comparison. The last photo shows everything in place. One slight fudge I'm making here is to put a grating into the foremost of the two rearmost openings. This should really be a companionway down to the wardroom, but the keel former realistically presents this being represented, and given that this will barely be glimpsed, a grating went on top instead. The kit plans omit this feature entirely.
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Beef Wellington got a reaction from mobbsie in HMS Jason by Beef Wellington - Caldercraft - 1:64 - Artois-class frigate modified from HMS Diana 1794
Thanks for all the 'likes', and Greg, Pat, Mike, Christian, Bob, Tom, Hamilton, Michael, Mobbsie - I really appreciate your thoughts and interest, the good news is that I don't need to decide right now. I got a little over-obsessive on Snake using the kit supplied materials which bogged things down a bit, I'm sure I'd enjoy rigging more with better quality line and be happier with the result. What I'm hoping is that I can leave my options open even after things get closed up when the quarterdeck and f'csle go on (e.g. mast stumps that could easily be replaced with full masts and yards at some point)
BE - your Victory, despite just looking fantastic, presents yet another interesting alternative. I too like that look a lot.
Coamings
Moving on a little, have started on the coamings and gratings. I had ordered some of Chuck's gratings some time ago and these were relatively painless to make up. The coaming dimensions were taken from AOTS with a few small adjustments to ensure the edge of the coaming met the wider binding strakes as illustrated. I did go the whole hog and build these as per TFFM which was good practice, if not slow. Not really much else to say.
Where the companionways are, I did do bit more fiddly work to try and simulate the beams and carlings that would be visible. I'm sure there must be a better way, but the approach I took was as follows:
Build up the bottom of the companionway coaming by 1mm to account for the thickness of the deck (as coamings would sit on the beams/carlings, not the deck) 0.5mm sheet was applied to the side faces to simulate the recess on the interior face Boxwood sheets and strips attached to simulate the beams/carlings. This was not hard once the approach had been figured out as this all still needs to slide in through the holes in the deck (which had to be enlarged a bit). I did decide to paint these black, as is shown to good effect on the contemporary Winchelsea model. I was tempted to leave these natural, but as I had made these out of pear, I felt that another wood tone would be distracting. In any event, black appears to have been quite commonly used toward the end of the century to aid safety by making the companionways more visible against the deck. Bit of a Frankenstein's monster from underneath, but to my eye looks convincing enough when in place.
All the coamings and gratings have been made up and just need some finishing. I was pleased that the coamings lined up with the butt pattern of the planks, because as irregular as they looks, they do correspond with the theoretical placement of the beams below.
The third photo shows the difference in appearance with the added depth in the companionway, vs the coaming simply sitting on the deck for comparison. The last photo shows everything in place. One slight fudge I'm making here is to put a grating into the foremost of the two rearmost openings. This should really be a companionway down to the wardroom, but the keel former realistically presents this being represented, and given that this will barely be glimpsed, a grating went on top instead. The kit plans omit this feature entirely.
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Beef Wellington got a reaction from popeye the sailor in Santísima Trinidad by Sjors - OcCre - 1:90
Really nice finish, you also managed to sneak in the tricky planking at the stern. 🙂
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Beef Wellington got a reaction from Piet in Santísima Trinidad by Sjors - OcCre - 1:90
Really nice finish, you also managed to sneak in the tricky planking at the stern. 🙂
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Beef Wellington got a reaction from Blue Ensign in HMS Jason by Beef Wellington - Caldercraft - 1:64 - Artois-class frigate modified from HMS Diana 1794
Thanks for all the 'likes', and Greg, Pat, Mike, Christian, Bob, Tom, Hamilton, Michael, Mobbsie - I really appreciate your thoughts and interest, the good news is that I don't need to decide right now. I got a little over-obsessive on Snake using the kit supplied materials which bogged things down a bit, I'm sure I'd enjoy rigging more with better quality line and be happier with the result. What I'm hoping is that I can leave my options open even after things get closed up when the quarterdeck and f'csle go on (e.g. mast stumps that could easily be replaced with full masts and yards at some point)
BE - your Victory, despite just looking fantastic, presents yet another interesting alternative. I too like that look a lot.
Coamings
Moving on a little, have started on the coamings and gratings. I had ordered some of Chuck's gratings some time ago and these were relatively painless to make up. The coaming dimensions were taken from AOTS with a few small adjustments to ensure the edge of the coaming met the wider binding strakes as illustrated. I did go the whole hog and build these as per TFFM which was good practice, if not slow. Not really much else to say.
Where the companionways are, I did do bit more fiddly work to try and simulate the beams and carlings that would be visible. I'm sure there must be a better way, but the approach I took was as follows:
Build up the bottom of the companionway coaming by 1mm to account for the thickness of the deck (as coamings would sit on the beams/carlings, not the deck) 0.5mm sheet was applied to the side faces to simulate the recess on the interior face Boxwood sheets and strips attached to simulate the beams/carlings. This was not hard once the approach had been figured out as this all still needs to slide in through the holes in the deck (which had to be enlarged a bit). I did decide to paint these black, as is shown to good effect on the contemporary Winchelsea model. I was tempted to leave these natural, but as I had made these out of pear, I felt that another wood tone would be distracting. In any event, black appears to have been quite commonly used toward the end of the century to aid safety by making the companionways more visible against the deck. Bit of a Frankenstein's monster from underneath, but to my eye looks convincing enough when in place.
All the coamings and gratings have been made up and just need some finishing. I was pleased that the coamings lined up with the butt pattern of the planks, because as irregular as they looks, they do correspond with the theoretical placement of the beams below.
The third photo shows the difference in appearance with the added depth in the companionway, vs the coaming simply sitting on the deck for comparison. The last photo shows everything in place. One slight fudge I'm making here is to put a grating into the foremost of the two rearmost openings. This should really be a companionway down to the wardroom, but the keel former realistically presents this being represented, and given that this will barely be glimpsed, a grating went on top instead. The kit plans omit this feature entirely.
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Beef Wellington got a reaction from Hennie in Santísima Trinidad by Sjors - OcCre - 1:90
Really nice finish, you also managed to sneak in the tricky planking at the stern. 🙂
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Beef Wellington reacted to matiz in French 74-gun ship by matiz - scale 1:56 - Tiziano Mainardi
Hi, the work continue on the openings of the second deck
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Beef Wellington got a reaction from mtaylor in Santísima Trinidad by Sjors - OcCre - 1:90
Really nice finish, you also managed to sneak in the tricky planking at the stern. 🙂
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Beef Wellington reacted to matiz in French 74-gun ship by matiz - scale 1:56 - Tiziano Mainardi
Good morning
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Beef Wellington reacted to Sjors in Santísima Trinidad by Sjors - OcCre - 1:90
Thanks Piet
Here are the promises pictures with the tung oil.
In the mean while I've bin busy with some other stuff.
I have place the upper stern part.
Easy to glue
Next thing are the top bow batten and bottom bow batten.
I hope it will work because I have to bend again.
But we shall see.
Sjors
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Beef Wellington got a reaction from zappto in HMS Jason by Beef Wellington - Caldercraft - 1:64 - Artois-class frigate modified from HMS Diana 1794
Thanks for all the 'likes', and Greg, Pat, Mike, Christian, Bob, Tom, Hamilton, Michael, Mobbsie - I really appreciate your thoughts and interest, the good news is that I don't need to decide right now. I got a little over-obsessive on Snake using the kit supplied materials which bogged things down a bit, I'm sure I'd enjoy rigging more with better quality line and be happier with the result. What I'm hoping is that I can leave my options open even after things get closed up when the quarterdeck and f'csle go on (e.g. mast stumps that could easily be replaced with full masts and yards at some point)
BE - your Victory, despite just looking fantastic, presents yet another interesting alternative. I too like that look a lot.
Coamings
Moving on a little, have started on the coamings and gratings. I had ordered some of Chuck's gratings some time ago and these were relatively painless to make up. The coaming dimensions were taken from AOTS with a few small adjustments to ensure the edge of the coaming met the wider binding strakes as illustrated. I did go the whole hog and build these as per TFFM which was good practice, if not slow. Not really much else to say.
Where the companionways are, I did do bit more fiddly work to try and simulate the beams and carlings that would be visible. I'm sure there must be a better way, but the approach I took was as follows:
Build up the bottom of the companionway coaming by 1mm to account for the thickness of the deck (as coamings would sit on the beams/carlings, not the deck) 0.5mm sheet was applied to the side faces to simulate the recess on the interior face Boxwood sheets and strips attached to simulate the beams/carlings. This was not hard once the approach had been figured out as this all still needs to slide in through the holes in the deck (which had to be enlarged a bit). I did decide to paint these black, as is shown to good effect on the contemporary Winchelsea model. I was tempted to leave these natural, but as I had made these out of pear, I felt that another wood tone would be distracting. In any event, black appears to have been quite commonly used toward the end of the century to aid safety by making the companionways more visible against the deck. Bit of a Frankenstein's monster from underneath, but to my eye looks convincing enough when in place.
All the coamings and gratings have been made up and just need some finishing. I was pleased that the coamings lined up with the butt pattern of the planks, because as irregular as they looks, they do correspond with the theoretical placement of the beams below.
The third photo shows the difference in appearance with the added depth in the companionway, vs the coaming simply sitting on the deck for comparison. The last photo shows everything in place. One slight fudge I'm making here is to put a grating into the foremost of the two rearmost openings. This should really be a companionway down to the wardroom, but the keel former realistically presents this being represented, and given that this will barely be glimpsed, a grating went on top instead. The kit plans omit this feature entirely.
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Beef Wellington got a reaction from rusty b in HMS Jason by Beef Wellington - Caldercraft - 1:64 - Artois-class frigate modified from HMS Diana 1794
Thanks for all the 'likes', and Greg, Pat, Mike, Christian, Bob, Tom, Hamilton, Michael, Mobbsie - I really appreciate your thoughts and interest, the good news is that I don't need to decide right now. I got a little over-obsessive on Snake using the kit supplied materials which bogged things down a bit, I'm sure I'd enjoy rigging more with better quality line and be happier with the result. What I'm hoping is that I can leave my options open even after things get closed up when the quarterdeck and f'csle go on (e.g. mast stumps that could easily be replaced with full masts and yards at some point)
BE - your Victory, despite just looking fantastic, presents yet another interesting alternative. I too like that look a lot.
Coamings
Moving on a little, have started on the coamings and gratings. I had ordered some of Chuck's gratings some time ago and these were relatively painless to make up. The coaming dimensions were taken from AOTS with a few small adjustments to ensure the edge of the coaming met the wider binding strakes as illustrated. I did go the whole hog and build these as per TFFM which was good practice, if not slow. Not really much else to say.
Where the companionways are, I did do bit more fiddly work to try and simulate the beams and carlings that would be visible. I'm sure there must be a better way, but the approach I took was as follows:
Build up the bottom of the companionway coaming by 1mm to account for the thickness of the deck (as coamings would sit on the beams/carlings, not the deck) 0.5mm sheet was applied to the side faces to simulate the recess on the interior face Boxwood sheets and strips attached to simulate the beams/carlings. This was not hard once the approach had been figured out as this all still needs to slide in through the holes in the deck (which had to be enlarged a bit). I did decide to paint these black, as is shown to good effect on the contemporary Winchelsea model. I was tempted to leave these natural, but as I had made these out of pear, I felt that another wood tone would be distracting. In any event, black appears to have been quite commonly used toward the end of the century to aid safety by making the companionways more visible against the deck. Bit of a Frankenstein's monster from underneath, but to my eye looks convincing enough when in place.
All the coamings and gratings have been made up and just need some finishing. I was pleased that the coamings lined up with the butt pattern of the planks, because as irregular as they looks, they do correspond with the theoretical placement of the beams below.
The third photo shows the difference in appearance with the added depth in the companionway, vs the coaming simply sitting on the deck for comparison. The last photo shows everything in place. One slight fudge I'm making here is to put a grating into the foremost of the two rearmost openings. This should really be a companionway down to the wardroom, but the keel former realistically presents this being represented, and given that this will barely be glimpsed, a grating went on top instead. The kit plans omit this feature entirely.
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Beef Wellington got a reaction from mtaylor in HMS Jason by Beef Wellington - Caldercraft - 1:64 - Artois-class frigate modified from HMS Diana 1794
Thanks for all the 'likes', and Greg, Pat, Mike, Christian, Bob, Tom, Hamilton, Michael, Mobbsie - I really appreciate your thoughts and interest, the good news is that I don't need to decide right now. I got a little over-obsessive on Snake using the kit supplied materials which bogged things down a bit, I'm sure I'd enjoy rigging more with better quality line and be happier with the result. What I'm hoping is that I can leave my options open even after things get closed up when the quarterdeck and f'csle go on (e.g. mast stumps that could easily be replaced with full masts and yards at some point)
BE - your Victory, despite just looking fantastic, presents yet another interesting alternative. I too like that look a lot.
Coamings
Moving on a little, have started on the coamings and gratings. I had ordered some of Chuck's gratings some time ago and these were relatively painless to make up. The coaming dimensions were taken from AOTS with a few small adjustments to ensure the edge of the coaming met the wider binding strakes as illustrated. I did go the whole hog and build these as per TFFM which was good practice, if not slow. Not really much else to say.
Where the companionways are, I did do bit more fiddly work to try and simulate the beams and carlings that would be visible. I'm sure there must be a better way, but the approach I took was as follows:
Build up the bottom of the companionway coaming by 1mm to account for the thickness of the deck (as coamings would sit on the beams/carlings, not the deck) 0.5mm sheet was applied to the side faces to simulate the recess on the interior face Boxwood sheets and strips attached to simulate the beams/carlings. This was not hard once the approach had been figured out as this all still needs to slide in through the holes in the deck (which had to be enlarged a bit). I did decide to paint these black, as is shown to good effect on the contemporary Winchelsea model. I was tempted to leave these natural, but as I had made these out of pear, I felt that another wood tone would be distracting. In any event, black appears to have been quite commonly used toward the end of the century to aid safety by making the companionways more visible against the deck. Bit of a Frankenstein's monster from underneath, but to my eye looks convincing enough when in place.
All the coamings and gratings have been made up and just need some finishing. I was pleased that the coamings lined up with the butt pattern of the planks, because as irregular as they looks, they do correspond with the theoretical placement of the beams below.
The third photo shows the difference in appearance with the added depth in the companionway, vs the coaming simply sitting on the deck for comparison. The last photo shows everything in place. One slight fudge I'm making here is to put a grating into the foremost of the two rearmost openings. This should really be a companionway down to the wardroom, but the keel former realistically presents this being represented, and given that this will barely be glimpsed, a grating went on top instead. The kit plans omit this feature entirely.
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Beef Wellington got a reaction from BenD in HMS Jason by Beef Wellington - Caldercraft - 1:64 - Artois-class frigate modified from HMS Diana 1794
Thanks for all the 'likes', and Greg, Pat, Mike, Christian, Bob, Tom, Hamilton, Michael, Mobbsie - I really appreciate your thoughts and interest, the good news is that I don't need to decide right now. I got a little over-obsessive on Snake using the kit supplied materials which bogged things down a bit, I'm sure I'd enjoy rigging more with better quality line and be happier with the result. What I'm hoping is that I can leave my options open even after things get closed up when the quarterdeck and f'csle go on (e.g. mast stumps that could easily be replaced with full masts and yards at some point)
BE - your Victory, despite just looking fantastic, presents yet another interesting alternative. I too like that look a lot.
Coamings
Moving on a little, have started on the coamings and gratings. I had ordered some of Chuck's gratings some time ago and these were relatively painless to make up. The coaming dimensions were taken from AOTS with a few small adjustments to ensure the edge of the coaming met the wider binding strakes as illustrated. I did go the whole hog and build these as per TFFM which was good practice, if not slow. Not really much else to say.
Where the companionways are, I did do bit more fiddly work to try and simulate the beams and carlings that would be visible. I'm sure there must be a better way, but the approach I took was as follows:
Build up the bottom of the companionway coaming by 1mm to account for the thickness of the deck (as coamings would sit on the beams/carlings, not the deck) 0.5mm sheet was applied to the side faces to simulate the recess on the interior face Boxwood sheets and strips attached to simulate the beams/carlings. This was not hard once the approach had been figured out as this all still needs to slide in through the holes in the deck (which had to be enlarged a bit). I did decide to paint these black, as is shown to good effect on the contemporary Winchelsea model. I was tempted to leave these natural, but as I had made these out of pear, I felt that another wood tone would be distracting. In any event, black appears to have been quite commonly used toward the end of the century to aid safety by making the companionways more visible against the deck. Bit of a Frankenstein's monster from underneath, but to my eye looks convincing enough when in place.
All the coamings and gratings have been made up and just need some finishing. I was pleased that the coamings lined up with the butt pattern of the planks, because as irregular as they looks, they do correspond with the theoretical placement of the beams below.
The third photo shows the difference in appearance with the added depth in the companionway, vs the coaming simply sitting on the deck for comparison. The last photo shows everything in place. One slight fudge I'm making here is to put a grating into the foremost of the two rearmost openings. This should really be a companionway down to the wardroom, but the keel former realistically presents this being represented, and given that this will barely be glimpsed, a grating went on top instead. The kit plans omit this feature entirely.
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Beef Wellington got a reaction from kier in HMS Vanguard by RMC - FINISHED - Amati/Victory Models - scale 1:72
I would have to say yes - last time I was there I was dragging my kids around as well but they had a blast, between Victory, Warrior and the multiple museum exibits, harbor tours etc there is plenty to see and do just in the dockyard. Add to that walks along the waterfront and the other historical sites (not forgetting maybe a few stops at 'The Still and West' pub) there's a lot to experience if the weather cooperates. Of course depends on your pace, but everytime I have been I've never felt I had enough time to get around everything at a comfortable pace.
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Beef Wellington reacted to Mirabell61 in Eagle of Algier 1753 by Mirabell61 - FINISHED - 1:48 - Chebec - Nils Langemann
Hi Denis,
thanks for your word...
the lower deck was not really difficult...., first a template for each half, then cut out from ply and completely planked. Then slipped in, the (flexible) halves, through the deck beams fom above. Glue in place and then the gratings and the pillars.
Am now working on the below deck cabins wall, here also first doing a card template, the final wall will bear the doors and the wall panels. This will be visable through the open port side and though the port side main deck outcut of the ship later on...Will need to think about the color giving tones there...
Nils
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Beef Wellington got a reaction from KenW in HMS Jason by Beef Wellington - Caldercraft - 1:64 - Artois-class frigate modified from HMS Diana 1794
Thanks for all the 'likes', and Greg, Pat, Mike, Christian, Bob, Tom, Hamilton, Michael, Mobbsie - I really appreciate your thoughts and interest, the good news is that I don't need to decide right now. I got a little over-obsessive on Snake using the kit supplied materials which bogged things down a bit, I'm sure I'd enjoy rigging more with better quality line and be happier with the result. What I'm hoping is that I can leave my options open even after things get closed up when the quarterdeck and f'csle go on (e.g. mast stumps that could easily be replaced with full masts and yards at some point)
BE - your Victory, despite just looking fantastic, presents yet another interesting alternative. I too like that look a lot.
Coamings
Moving on a little, have started on the coamings and gratings. I had ordered some of Chuck's gratings some time ago and these were relatively painless to make up. The coaming dimensions were taken from AOTS with a few small adjustments to ensure the edge of the coaming met the wider binding strakes as illustrated. I did go the whole hog and build these as per TFFM which was good practice, if not slow. Not really much else to say.
Where the companionways are, I did do bit more fiddly work to try and simulate the beams and carlings that would be visible. I'm sure there must be a better way, but the approach I took was as follows:
Build up the bottom of the companionway coaming by 1mm to account for the thickness of the deck (as coamings would sit on the beams/carlings, not the deck) 0.5mm sheet was applied to the side faces to simulate the recess on the interior face Boxwood sheets and strips attached to simulate the beams/carlings. This was not hard once the approach had been figured out as this all still needs to slide in through the holes in the deck (which had to be enlarged a bit). I did decide to paint these black, as is shown to good effect on the contemporary Winchelsea model. I was tempted to leave these natural, but as I had made these out of pear, I felt that another wood tone would be distracting. In any event, black appears to have been quite commonly used toward the end of the century to aid safety by making the companionways more visible against the deck. Bit of a Frankenstein's monster from underneath, but to my eye looks convincing enough when in place.
All the coamings and gratings have been made up and just need some finishing. I was pleased that the coamings lined up with the butt pattern of the planks, because as irregular as they looks, they do correspond with the theoretical placement of the beams below.
The third photo shows the difference in appearance with the added depth in the companionway, vs the coaming simply sitting on the deck for comparison. The last photo shows everything in place. One slight fudge I'm making here is to put a grating into the foremost of the two rearmost openings. This should really be a companionway down to the wardroom, but the keel former realistically presents this being represented, and given that this will barely be glimpsed, a grating went on top instead. The kit plans omit this feature entirely.
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Beef Wellington got a reaction from mort stoll in HMS Jason by Beef Wellington - Caldercraft - 1:64 - Artois-class frigate modified from HMS Diana 1794
Thanks for all the 'likes', and Greg, Pat, Mike, Christian, Bob, Tom, Hamilton, Michael, Mobbsie - I really appreciate your thoughts and interest, the good news is that I don't need to decide right now. I got a little over-obsessive on Snake using the kit supplied materials which bogged things down a bit, I'm sure I'd enjoy rigging more with better quality line and be happier with the result. What I'm hoping is that I can leave my options open even after things get closed up when the quarterdeck and f'csle go on (e.g. mast stumps that could easily be replaced with full masts and yards at some point)
BE - your Victory, despite just looking fantastic, presents yet another interesting alternative. I too like that look a lot.
Coamings
Moving on a little, have started on the coamings and gratings. I had ordered some of Chuck's gratings some time ago and these were relatively painless to make up. The coaming dimensions were taken from AOTS with a few small adjustments to ensure the edge of the coaming met the wider binding strakes as illustrated. I did go the whole hog and build these as per TFFM which was good practice, if not slow. Not really much else to say.
Where the companionways are, I did do bit more fiddly work to try and simulate the beams and carlings that would be visible. I'm sure there must be a better way, but the approach I took was as follows:
Build up the bottom of the companionway coaming by 1mm to account for the thickness of the deck (as coamings would sit on the beams/carlings, not the deck) 0.5mm sheet was applied to the side faces to simulate the recess on the interior face Boxwood sheets and strips attached to simulate the beams/carlings. This was not hard once the approach had been figured out as this all still needs to slide in through the holes in the deck (which had to be enlarged a bit). I did decide to paint these black, as is shown to good effect on the contemporary Winchelsea model. I was tempted to leave these natural, but as I had made these out of pear, I felt that another wood tone would be distracting. In any event, black appears to have been quite commonly used toward the end of the century to aid safety by making the companionways more visible against the deck. Bit of a Frankenstein's monster from underneath, but to my eye looks convincing enough when in place.
All the coamings and gratings have been made up and just need some finishing. I was pleased that the coamings lined up with the butt pattern of the planks, because as irregular as they looks, they do correspond with the theoretical placement of the beams below.
The third photo shows the difference in appearance with the added depth in the companionway, vs the coaming simply sitting on the deck for comparison. The last photo shows everything in place. One slight fudge I'm making here is to put a grating into the foremost of the two rearmost openings. This should really be a companionway down to the wardroom, but the keel former realistically presents this being represented, and given that this will barely be glimpsed, a grating went on top instead. The kit plans omit this feature entirely.
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Beef Wellington got a reaction from egkb in HMS Jason by Beef Wellington - Caldercraft - 1:64 - Artois-class frigate modified from HMS Diana 1794
Thanks for all the 'likes', and Greg, Pat, Mike, Christian, Bob, Tom, Hamilton, Michael, Mobbsie - I really appreciate your thoughts and interest, the good news is that I don't need to decide right now. I got a little over-obsessive on Snake using the kit supplied materials which bogged things down a bit, I'm sure I'd enjoy rigging more with better quality line and be happier with the result. What I'm hoping is that I can leave my options open even after things get closed up when the quarterdeck and f'csle go on (e.g. mast stumps that could easily be replaced with full masts and yards at some point)
BE - your Victory, despite just looking fantastic, presents yet another interesting alternative. I too like that look a lot.
Coamings
Moving on a little, have started on the coamings and gratings. I had ordered some of Chuck's gratings some time ago and these were relatively painless to make up. The coaming dimensions were taken from AOTS with a few small adjustments to ensure the edge of the coaming met the wider binding strakes as illustrated. I did go the whole hog and build these as per TFFM which was good practice, if not slow. Not really much else to say.
Where the companionways are, I did do bit more fiddly work to try and simulate the beams and carlings that would be visible. I'm sure there must be a better way, but the approach I took was as follows:
Build up the bottom of the companionway coaming by 1mm to account for the thickness of the deck (as coamings would sit on the beams/carlings, not the deck) 0.5mm sheet was applied to the side faces to simulate the recess on the interior face Boxwood sheets and strips attached to simulate the beams/carlings. This was not hard once the approach had been figured out as this all still needs to slide in through the holes in the deck (which had to be enlarged a bit). I did decide to paint these black, as is shown to good effect on the contemporary Winchelsea model. I was tempted to leave these natural, but as I had made these out of pear, I felt that another wood tone would be distracting. In any event, black appears to have been quite commonly used toward the end of the century to aid safety by making the companionways more visible against the deck. Bit of a Frankenstein's monster from underneath, but to my eye looks convincing enough when in place.
All the coamings and gratings have been made up and just need some finishing. I was pleased that the coamings lined up with the butt pattern of the planks, because as irregular as they looks, they do correspond with the theoretical placement of the beams below.
The third photo shows the difference in appearance with the added depth in the companionway, vs the coaming simply sitting on the deck for comparison. The last photo shows everything in place. One slight fudge I'm making here is to put a grating into the foremost of the two rearmost openings. This should really be a companionway down to the wardroom, but the keel former realistically presents this being represented, and given that this will barely be glimpsed, a grating went on top instead. The kit plans omit this feature entirely.
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Beef Wellington got a reaction from JesseLee in HMS Jason by Beef Wellington - Caldercraft - 1:64 - Artois-class frigate modified from HMS Diana 1794
Thanks for all the 'likes', and Greg, Pat, Mike, Christian, Bob, Tom, Hamilton, Michael, Mobbsie - I really appreciate your thoughts and interest, the good news is that I don't need to decide right now. I got a little over-obsessive on Snake using the kit supplied materials which bogged things down a bit, I'm sure I'd enjoy rigging more with better quality line and be happier with the result. What I'm hoping is that I can leave my options open even after things get closed up when the quarterdeck and f'csle go on (e.g. mast stumps that could easily be replaced with full masts and yards at some point)
BE - your Victory, despite just looking fantastic, presents yet another interesting alternative. I too like that look a lot.
Coamings
Moving on a little, have started on the coamings and gratings. I had ordered some of Chuck's gratings some time ago and these were relatively painless to make up. The coaming dimensions were taken from AOTS with a few small adjustments to ensure the edge of the coaming met the wider binding strakes as illustrated. I did go the whole hog and build these as per TFFM which was good practice, if not slow. Not really much else to say.
Where the companionways are, I did do bit more fiddly work to try and simulate the beams and carlings that would be visible. I'm sure there must be a better way, but the approach I took was as follows:
Build up the bottom of the companionway coaming by 1mm to account for the thickness of the deck (as coamings would sit on the beams/carlings, not the deck) 0.5mm sheet was applied to the side faces to simulate the recess on the interior face Boxwood sheets and strips attached to simulate the beams/carlings. This was not hard once the approach had been figured out as this all still needs to slide in through the holes in the deck (which had to be enlarged a bit). I did decide to paint these black, as is shown to good effect on the contemporary Winchelsea model. I was tempted to leave these natural, but as I had made these out of pear, I felt that another wood tone would be distracting. In any event, black appears to have been quite commonly used toward the end of the century to aid safety by making the companionways more visible against the deck. Bit of a Frankenstein's monster from underneath, but to my eye looks convincing enough when in place.
All the coamings and gratings have been made up and just need some finishing. I was pleased that the coamings lined up with the butt pattern of the planks, because as irregular as they looks, they do correspond with the theoretical placement of the beams below.
The third photo shows the difference in appearance with the added depth in the companionway, vs the coaming simply sitting on the deck for comparison. The last photo shows everything in place. One slight fudge I'm making here is to put a grating into the foremost of the two rearmost openings. This should really be a companionway down to the wardroom, but the keel former realistically presents this being represented, and given that this will barely be glimpsed, a grating went on top instead. The kit plans omit this feature entirely.
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Beef Wellington got a reaction from usedtosail in HMS Jason by Beef Wellington - Caldercraft - 1:64 - Artois-class frigate modified from HMS Diana 1794
Thanks for all the 'likes', and Greg, Pat, Mike, Christian, Bob, Tom, Hamilton, Michael, Mobbsie - I really appreciate your thoughts and interest, the good news is that I don't need to decide right now. I got a little over-obsessive on Snake using the kit supplied materials which bogged things down a bit, I'm sure I'd enjoy rigging more with better quality line and be happier with the result. What I'm hoping is that I can leave my options open even after things get closed up when the quarterdeck and f'csle go on (e.g. mast stumps that could easily be replaced with full masts and yards at some point)
BE - your Victory, despite just looking fantastic, presents yet another interesting alternative. I too like that look a lot.
Coamings
Moving on a little, have started on the coamings and gratings. I had ordered some of Chuck's gratings some time ago and these were relatively painless to make up. The coaming dimensions were taken from AOTS with a few small adjustments to ensure the edge of the coaming met the wider binding strakes as illustrated. I did go the whole hog and build these as per TFFM which was good practice, if not slow. Not really much else to say.
Where the companionways are, I did do bit more fiddly work to try and simulate the beams and carlings that would be visible. I'm sure there must be a better way, but the approach I took was as follows:
Build up the bottom of the companionway coaming by 1mm to account for the thickness of the deck (as coamings would sit on the beams/carlings, not the deck) 0.5mm sheet was applied to the side faces to simulate the recess on the interior face Boxwood sheets and strips attached to simulate the beams/carlings. This was not hard once the approach had been figured out as this all still needs to slide in through the holes in the deck (which had to be enlarged a bit). I did decide to paint these black, as is shown to good effect on the contemporary Winchelsea model. I was tempted to leave these natural, but as I had made these out of pear, I felt that another wood tone would be distracting. In any event, black appears to have been quite commonly used toward the end of the century to aid safety by making the companionways more visible against the deck. Bit of a Frankenstein's monster from underneath, but to my eye looks convincing enough when in place.
All the coamings and gratings have been made up and just need some finishing. I was pleased that the coamings lined up with the butt pattern of the planks, because as irregular as they looks, they do correspond with the theoretical placement of the beams below.
The third photo shows the difference in appearance with the added depth in the companionway, vs the coaming simply sitting on the deck for comparison. The last photo shows everything in place. One slight fudge I'm making here is to put a grating into the foremost of the two rearmost openings. This should really be a companionway down to the wardroom, but the keel former realistically presents this being represented, and given that this will barely be glimpsed, a grating went on top instead. The kit plans omit this feature entirely.
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Beef Wellington got a reaction from Dfell in HMS Jason by Beef Wellington - Caldercraft - 1:64 - Artois-class frigate modified from HMS Diana 1794
Thanks for all the 'likes', and Greg, Pat, Mike, Christian, Bob, Tom, Hamilton, Michael, Mobbsie - I really appreciate your thoughts and interest, the good news is that I don't need to decide right now. I got a little over-obsessive on Snake using the kit supplied materials which bogged things down a bit, I'm sure I'd enjoy rigging more with better quality line and be happier with the result. What I'm hoping is that I can leave my options open even after things get closed up when the quarterdeck and f'csle go on (e.g. mast stumps that could easily be replaced with full masts and yards at some point)
BE - your Victory, despite just looking fantastic, presents yet another interesting alternative. I too like that look a lot.
Coamings
Moving on a little, have started on the coamings and gratings. I had ordered some of Chuck's gratings some time ago and these were relatively painless to make up. The coaming dimensions were taken from AOTS with a few small adjustments to ensure the edge of the coaming met the wider binding strakes as illustrated. I did go the whole hog and build these as per TFFM which was good practice, if not slow. Not really much else to say.
Where the companionways are, I did do bit more fiddly work to try and simulate the beams and carlings that would be visible. I'm sure there must be a better way, but the approach I took was as follows:
Build up the bottom of the companionway coaming by 1mm to account for the thickness of the deck (as coamings would sit on the beams/carlings, not the deck) 0.5mm sheet was applied to the side faces to simulate the recess on the interior face Boxwood sheets and strips attached to simulate the beams/carlings. This was not hard once the approach had been figured out as this all still needs to slide in through the holes in the deck (which had to be enlarged a bit). I did decide to paint these black, as is shown to good effect on the contemporary Winchelsea model. I was tempted to leave these natural, but as I had made these out of pear, I felt that another wood tone would be distracting. In any event, black appears to have been quite commonly used toward the end of the century to aid safety by making the companionways more visible against the deck. Bit of a Frankenstein's monster from underneath, but to my eye looks convincing enough when in place.
All the coamings and gratings have been made up and just need some finishing. I was pleased that the coamings lined up with the butt pattern of the planks, because as irregular as they looks, they do correspond with the theoretical placement of the beams below.
The third photo shows the difference in appearance with the added depth in the companionway, vs the coaming simply sitting on the deck for comparison. The last photo shows everything in place. One slight fudge I'm making here is to put a grating into the foremost of the two rearmost openings. This should really be a companionway down to the wardroom, but the keel former realistically presents this being represented, and given that this will barely be glimpsed, a grating went on top instead. The kit plans omit this feature entirely.
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Beef Wellington got a reaction from CiscoH in HMS Jason by Beef Wellington - Caldercraft - 1:64 - Artois-class frigate modified from HMS Diana 1794
Thanks all for the "likes" and looking in. Think a point has been reached where all of the known big challenges have been addressed, or at least an approach developed, so I can start to have a bit of fun tackling some of the other odd pieces on the deck.
I am starting to seriously consider not rigging this model... the reason being that I certainly still have plenty ahead of me (and I still haven't even finished rigging 'Snake' yet) even without rigging, also the size of the hull is already quite large and adding the masts and spars will increase the needed space significantly. Curious on other's thoughts on this, hopefully it is not anathema. The other consideration is that I would like to move onto another build sooner than I realistically would if I were to fully rig. What this means is that I may spend a little extra time adding some details that I otherwise wouldn't, as I'm also wanting to leave my options open to possibly leave open some of the upper deck planking/scuttles.
4 additional standards have been added, 2 fore and 2 aft (still in process on larboard side) as these will be visible when the upper deck is in place. You can see the kit supplied riding bitts in place.
The scale of these bitts is actually pretty accurate, but I didn't like the shape so decided to make up my own...and while I was at it also made up some fore riding bitts following guidance from TFFM as the AOTS book is a little sparse on detail. These were fun little projects. I believe the forward elm battens were nailed on for easy replacement but I haven't tried to simulate that, not sure how this would be done however, or whether this is a "less is more" situation.
Previous mods allowed the bowsprit to be secured within the hull on a bowsprit step so this was also constructed. Going a little crazy some manger boards were also made up, these will not be readily (understatement) viewable but I think could add to the sense of depth when undergoing close inspection through a gun port , and help mask the obvious edge of the bulkhead against the deck. The dimensions of the bowsprit step are a little ambiguous, in retrospect I would have made it 2-3mm narrower, but given the likely visibility, this will not be redone.
The placement of the bowsprit step is a little dependent on some of the foremost beam, to be obsessive this should be a little further forward, but think it will be just fine where it is. The foremost deck beams required modification to work around some of the other alterations made up to this point but this was simple enough.
And with everything in place a couple of deck shots to get a feel for things...