bryanc Posted June 24, 2015 Author #61 Posted June 24, 2015 Beautiful work on her, but that pink box kind of turns me off a bit mike Thanks Mike, But "pink box"! Do you mean the (bashed) cover on the tiller? Yes I did wonder if it was a bit "obvious". Bryan Bryan, I would consider doing your shrouds and ratlines on now while you still have finger room as your stays and back stays will get in the way. Also, if you look up the ' order of dressing the masts and yards' rigging to me and you, shrouds went round the head first before stays and back stays, however, fore stays are useful to prevent the shrouds pulling the mast out of align whilst rigging. This is something I learnt with plastic kits where I would rig temporary fore stays to higher up the mast doubling and then rig them correctly after the shrouds were in place. Hi Thunder, Too late he cried! I've just logged on for the first time since posting the last update - to say I've now finished the yards and allied rigging and am about to start on the shrouds and ratlines!! And yes, in retrospect I do worry I will have enough room to manoeuvre. Oh well, committed now. Being ever aware my ship building will come to a grinding halt when the shrouds are done, I actually logged on to have a nosey about for inspiration for my next build. Anyone any ideas for the "next stage up" after The Suppy? Bryan Canute 1 Quote Completed build Caronada Francese Completed build Posto di Combattimanto Current build Navio Rayo - Puesto de Combate Current build HMS Bounty Completed build HMS Victory Cross Section Completed build HM Brig "Supply" Completed build The Lady Nelson
Thunder Posted June 25, 2015 #62 Posted June 25, 2015 Oh dear you have some fiddly work to do. Might be worth making a jig with pins in a board set to the deadeye spacing and mast height. Then you can make them and apply in one piece. It won't be accurate to how should be rigged but your order is out now anyway. Supply is as intricate as most kits just one less mast or more detail. If you have successfully built this then I would just take what you fancy. Hull shape of ships like the Endeavour would be tricky but not too much different. Something like Granado or Caroline? bryanc and Canute 2 Quote Current Build(s): H.M.S Diana 1794 - Caldercraft 1:64 Scale Completed Builds: H.M.S. Cruiser 1797 - Caldercraft 1:64 Scale H.M. Naval Cutter Speedy 1828 - Model Shipwright 1:48 Royal Caroline 1749 - Panart 1:47 H.M. Brig Supply 1759 - Caldercraft 1:64 H.M.S. Pickle 1778 - Caldercraft 1:64 H.M.Y. Chatham 1741 - Caldercraft 1:64 H.M.S. Resolution Cutter - Corel 1:50 H.M.S. Racehorse - Sergal 1:47 (Renamed H.M.S. Thunder 1740) first wooden kit build.
bryanc Posted June 25, 2015 Author #63 Posted June 25, 2015 Oh dear you have some fiddly work to do. Might be worth making a jig with pins in a board set to the deadeye spacing and mast height. Then you can make them and apply in one piece. It won't be accurate to how should be rigged but your order is out now anyway. Supply is as intricate as most kits just one less mast or more detail. If you have successfully built this then I would just take what you fancy. Hull shape of ships like the Endeavour would be tricky but not too much different. Something like Granado or Caroline? Many thanks Thunder, I suspect your right re. the fiddly work so I've ordered the Amati rigging jig. Hopefully that will help me a little. Thanks for the advice re. the next ship. Needless to say I have been looking and must say HMS Snake has caught my eye! Canute 1 Quote Completed build Caronada Francese Completed build Posto di Combattimanto Current build Navio Rayo - Puesto de Combate Current build HMS Bounty Completed build HMS Victory Cross Section Completed build HM Brig "Supply" Completed build The Lady Nelson
Thunder Posted June 25, 2015 #64 Posted June 25, 2015 Good choice, I would have to look at other ships in the same class to change the name though. bryanc 1 Quote Current Build(s): H.M.S Diana 1794 - Caldercraft 1:64 Scale Completed Builds: H.M.S. Cruiser 1797 - Caldercraft 1:64 Scale H.M. Naval Cutter Speedy 1828 - Model Shipwright 1:48 Royal Caroline 1749 - Panart 1:47 H.M. Brig Supply 1759 - Caldercraft 1:64 H.M.S. Pickle 1778 - Caldercraft 1:64 H.M.Y. Chatham 1741 - Caldercraft 1:64 H.M.S. Resolution Cutter - Corel 1:50 H.M.S. Racehorse - Sergal 1:47 (Renamed H.M.S. Thunder 1740) first wooden kit build.
bryanc Posted June 27, 2015 Author #65 Posted June 27, 2015 Nearly there... Just a couple of photos before I start on the shrouds; the last and aurgueably the toughest lap. But don't photos reveal detail the eye chooses not to see!? I'm going to have to tidy up the paintwork on the keel for a start. And one or two things need attention. Oh well. Bryan Canute, hornet, oscarmate and 3 others 6 Quote Completed build Caronada Francese Completed build Posto di Combattimanto Current build Navio Rayo - Puesto de Combate Current build HMS Bounty Completed build HMS Victory Cross Section Completed build HM Brig "Supply" Completed build The Lady Nelson
riverboat Posted June 27, 2015 #66 Posted June 27, 2015 Hi Bryan..... I really think you should've done the ratlines before setting the yards..... It's going to be hard to work around them. just be careful !! frank Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk)
bryanc Posted June 28, 2015 Author #67 Posted June 28, 2015 Hi Bryan..... I really think you should've done the ratlines before setting the yards..... It's going to be hard to work around them. just be careful !! frank Yes Frank this does seem to be the general consensus, and I'm afraid its largely my ignorance, but it is a learning process. The penultimate paragraph in the manual indicates clearly that the yards are to be done first with the "rigging" being the very last paragraph in it (the manual). Of course if you read said paragraphs properly it does say do the shrouds THEN the rigging of the stays etc etc. Oh well. I'll have to see how this last hurdle develops. Bryan riverboat 1 Quote Completed build Caronada Francese Completed build Posto di Combattimanto Current build Navio Rayo - Puesto de Combate Current build HMS Bounty Completed build HMS Victory Cross Section Completed build HM Brig "Supply" Completed build The Lady Nelson
bryanc Posted July 27, 2015 Author #68 Posted July 27, 2015 Almost there After a long silence I thought I'd better throw in an update, given that I intend starting a new build log of my next ship very shortly. My "Supply" is almost finished; as several people wisely pointed out, I was going to have a lot of trouble completing the shrouds as I had already completed the masts and stays, ratlines etc. They were right! It proved very tricky indeed, and has taken a lot of time. The Amati Rigging Jig did help but that can't create shrouds that can go around all the other ship impedimentia! I was hoping to be able to say "Complete!" about now, as all eight shrouds were created and fitted, but yesterday the main mast starboard lower set collapsed as I was trying to fit the "crowsfeet" (I hope I'm using that expression correctly), and the whole think collapsed rendering the upper shroud useless to! I'm already working to replace it, and the stays and ratlines that were inadvertantly and inevitably broken as I struggled to fit the shrouds. I estimate another day or so! During the latter part of this build, I was foolish enough to open the box of my next project, the AL HMS Bounty. Pandora having opened the box now paid the price, and I could not resist having a good look, and even making a start while things on the Supply dried etc. Hopefully back very shortly with pictures of the completed Supply! Bryan Canute and hornet 2 Quote Completed build Caronada Francese Completed build Posto di Combattimanto Current build Navio Rayo - Puesto de Combate Current build HMS Bounty Completed build HMS Victory Cross Section Completed build HM Brig "Supply" Completed build The Lady Nelson
bryanc Posted August 7, 2015 Author #69 Posted August 7, 2015 Finished! Well, almost an anti-climax, as I have already started on my next project, the Artesania Latina HMS Bounty, and am enjoying it so much, my previous all consuming love The Supply, sadly took a back seat. But I wrenched myself from The Bounty and have for all intents and purposes, now finished the Supply. In all honesty, it was only replacing damaged stays and rigging which suffered as I struggled with the shrouds (as many people had predicted) plus general "fettling". It's sat on an old chest (not an original sea chest!), and the stains on the chest are candle wax, which is somehow appropriate! There are many weaknesses and many faults and ill conceived shortcuts that were taken, but it was only my second ship, and I'm not totally disappointed with her, and god only knows, I learnt such a lot! Bryan aviaamator, UpstateNY, Canute and 4 others 7 Quote Completed build Caronada Francese Completed build Posto di Combattimanto Current build Navio Rayo - Puesto de Combate Current build HMS Bounty Completed build HMS Victory Cross Section Completed build HM Brig "Supply" Completed build The Lady Nelson
riverboat Posted August 7, 2015 #70 Posted August 7, 2015 Nice build Bryan...... she looks really good!!.....have a good build on your Bounty!!.... frank Canute and bryanc 2 Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk)
hornet Posted August 7, 2015 #71 Posted August 7, 2015 Congratulations on finishing her Brian. Glad to see you finally got those shrouds and ratlines under control. Best wishes with the Bounty. Steve. Canute and bryanc 2 Quote Hornet Current Build: - OcCre Shackleton’s Endurance. Completed Ship Builds: Caldercraft - HM Bark Endeavour. (in Gallery) Caldercraft - HMAV Bounty (in Gallery) Caldercraft - HM Brig Supply (In Gallery) Aeropiccola - Golden Hind - Constitution Clipper Seawitch (maker unknown - too long ago to remember!) Corel - Victory Modeller's Shipyard - A Schooner of Port Jackson - In Gallery - Brig `Perseverance' - In Gallery - Cutter `Mermaid'- In Gallery - Sirius Longboat (bashed) - In Gallery - Sloop Norfolk - In Gallery Completed Cannon: - French 18th Century Naval Cannon - Napoleonic 12 pound field piece - English 18th Century Carronade Non Ship Builds - Sopwith Camel - Artesania Latina - Fokker DR1 - Artesania Latina
UpstateNY Posted August 7, 2015 #72 Posted August 7, 2015 (edited) Congratulations on your completed build Bryan! She looks really great! Cheers, Nigel. Edited August 7, 2015 by UpstateNY bryanc and Canute 2 Quote Current Build Logs: H.M.S. Triton Cross Section, USF Confederacy Model Shipways Completed Log: Red Dragon Artesania Latina Gallery: Red Dragon: Artesania Latina Member: Nautical Research Guild
Jparsley Posted August 7, 2015 #73 Posted August 7, 2015 Brian only the artist knows the flaws She looks beautiful Canute, bryanc and Homebrew 3 Quote USF Constellation 1/85 AL Jparsley
bryanc Posted August 8, 2015 Author #74 Posted August 8, 2015 Thanks guys, a lot of very generous comments, and much appreciated. I think the whole point is that the whole exercise is a learning process, hopefully the things I've learnt will reap rewards with the Bounty - and it will be interesting to see if, or how much, that is true in the coming weeks and months! Thank you, Bryan riverboat 1 Quote Completed build Caronada Francese Completed build Posto di Combattimanto Current build Navio Rayo - Puesto de Combate Current build HMS Bounty Completed build HMS Victory Cross Section Completed build HM Brig "Supply" Completed build The Lady Nelson
Telp Posted February 22, 2016 #75 Posted February 22, 2016 Hi Bryan. I am somewhat ahead of you on the same build. Am about to start work on the masts and yards. Have done a fair bit of bashing of the kit though. My only comment at this stage is that the supplied timber for the second layer of planking is quite brittlle, rough and splintery, particularly on the edges. You will probably need to go through the whole lot and disregard some of them. Luckily Caldercraft provides more than enough to complete the job. I also found a very good example of this ship in the online exhibit from the Powerhouse Museum in Sydney. It is worth a look if you are considering any bashing. Use the Museum search facility - enter HM Armed Brig Supply - 24 hi res pics. brilliant link, I am going to give this kit a go for my next adventure and the detailed photos will be a superb asset. bryanc, hornet and Canute 3 Quote Current build: Caldercraft 1:64 HM Brig Supply Finished builds: HMS Endeavours longboat
Homebrew Posted April 23, 2020 #76 Posted April 23, 2020 On 2/23/2016 at 9:59 AM, Telp said: brilliant link, I am going to give this kit a go for my next adventure and the detailed photos will be a superb asset. Great Job Brian! Thanks Hornet for posting the Supply model link Canute 1 Quote Cheers Mark from Tasmania Current Build: HMS Supply - Artesania Latina - Scale 1:56 USS Kearsarge
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