spasias Posted March 25, 2015 #1 Posted March 25, 2015 (edited) Hello all. My name is Stergios. After a period of viewing others projects I decided to start my first model. I don't have fancy workshop tools just a small bandsaw that i got second hand and rebuild it. So together with this project i will also upgrade my workshop with tools that will help me with the project. The first pieces were made from pine wood that I had available, in order to practice in woodworking technique. As soon as possible I will try to get locally some pear wood in order to go on. Requesting access to the rest of the plans. Edited May 7, 2015 by spasias isabuncu 1
spasias Posted March 27, 2015 Author #2 Posted March 27, 2015 A small update. I purchase locally a big dry piece of pear wood and I already manage to made one slice of it. Unfortunately my band saw was overloaded and I broke the blade . So I am waiting to get a new blade in order to go on with the frames . mtaylor 1
spasias Posted April 3, 2015 Author #3 Posted April 3, 2015 The first frame was done ... but the results was far away from my expectations. The right side was very bad, so I decided to remove some parts and remake them. I believe with some practice I will manage to make even better frames. Joop-Ham, tadheus, mtaylor and 1 other 4
spasias Posted April 21, 2015 Author #4 Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) So far I manage to speed up my technique and to be more productive. Five more left ... I was not very happy with the keel construction method that I used (band-saw and sanding) because the final pieces were not as precise as I needed. In addition a mini thicknesses planner is very expensive ... so I manage to make again the keel parts by using router as thickness planer with success. I use double side tape to stick the piece down to a flat surface, also I use small wood pieces left and right to keep the piece steady in place and I trim the upper edge with the router sliding in top ... after one pass per side and minimum sanding the result was excellent. Edited April 22, 2015 by spasias mtaylor, druxey and tkay11 3
spasias Posted May 5, 2015 Author #5 Posted May 5, 2015 Finally I manage to make all the frames ... so now is sanding and assembly time. First of all I face all the pieces from front and back with sanding them into a sandpaper glued to a flat surface. The result was excellent achieving very even and smooth surfaces. At the end of the process I measure the pieces width and I realize that at the bottom of the frame I had 10 mm width and at the top I had 9 mm width . I was sanding by pressing the piece to the sandpaper with an flat wooden surface on the top ... unfortunately the small tops of the frame was rubbing more so i had this difference. instead I might had put more pressure to the bottom of the frame area .... I don't intend to remake all the frames, because the difference is the same to all the frames, instead I will try to get rid the difference st the assembly. Anyway LESSON LEARNED . If you don't make mistakes you won't learn. mtaylor, Canute, tkay11 and 1 other 4
AntonyUK Posted May 5, 2015 #6 Posted May 5, 2015 Hello Stergios. Welcome to MSW. You have made a good start on your cross section. Making something and then deciding it is not good enough for you is good . It shows you have a goos standard of what you are trying to acheave. And making mistakes is what we all learn with. I love Pear wood. Makes very nice timber for model ship building. Will be following along with your build. Regards Antony. Best advice ever given to me."If you don't know ..Just ask. Completed Mayflower Completed Fun build Tail boat Tailboat Completed Build Chinese Junk Chinese Pirate Junk Completed scratch built Korean Turtle ship 1/32 Turtle ship Completed Santa Lucia Sicilian Cargo Boat 1/30 scale Santa Lucia On hold. Bounty Occre 1/45 Completed HMS Victory by DeAgostini modelspace. DeAgostini Victory Cross Section Completed H.M.S. Victory X section by Coral. HMS Victory cross section Completed The Black Pearl fun build Black Queen Completed A large scale Victory cross section 1/36 Victory Cross Section
spasias Posted May 7, 2015 Author #7 Posted May 7, 2015 Thank you Antony for the comments. Today I had a little more progress. I manage to cut, with the router, all the botton cuts in order to fit the keel. For this purpose i made a simple jig. All the cuts were perfect so all the pieces stay at correct position even with dry fit. Currently i try to see how to cut correct the top pieces (I need a mill for this job that i don't have). At last the model takes shape. Pete38, tadheus and Canute 3
Pete38 Posted May 7, 2015 #8 Posted May 7, 2015 Very nicely done on the jig for the cut, looking good Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER
spasias Posted May 13, 2015 Author #9 Posted May 13, 2015 A small update because a flu kept me in bed the last days. I couldn' t afford to buy a milling machine so I settled with a x-y table attached to my bench drill press. This setup was not excellent because of my drill press was running at low rpm. At the end I manage to cut accurate the frames making three or four cutting passes. I believe the problem was the router bit that i used for cutting. This bit needs at least 12.000 rpm to operate properly. I don't know if i install mill cutting bit if i will have better results. mtaylor 1
mtaylor Posted May 13, 2015 #10 Posted May 13, 2015 Stergios, Short answer is no.. the milling bit will need higher rpm's as well. I wonder if a drum sander like the Dremel style would work? Lots of sawdust but it might do the trick. What I and others have been able to do is get close on that cutout with a scroll saw and the file to the final shape and size. yamsterman and spasias 2 Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
spasias Posted May 21, 2015 Author #11 Posted May 21, 2015 Thanks mtaylor for the info. I will try some drill press mods that I saw on the net and I will post the results. I also glued all the frames. The spacers that I used are temporary without glue. I don't know if I must glue some spacers or not for extra support. I intend to leave one side without planking (but with glued spacers the sanding will be more accurate). So I still thinking how to continue. Canute, Pete38, mtaylor and 1 other 4
spasias Posted June 6, 2015 Author #12 Posted June 6, 2015 All the framework was done. Now is sanding time... mtaylor, UpstateNY, Canute and 2 others 5
Pete38 Posted June 7, 2015 #13 Posted June 7, 2015 Very nice work, Have fun sanding, looks like it will no take to much sanding to fair them. Canute 1 Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER
spasias Posted June 26, 2015 Author #14 Posted June 26, 2015 A small update Most of the sanding is done. I also install two small nuts inside the frames in order to support the cross section at the future. Next step is the inside area floor installation. Does anyone knows what diameter treenails I must use for 1/48 scale? Also there is any treenail positioning pattern or I have to copy from other progress logs? UpstateNY 1
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